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RE: Brogan Roback is our X Factot
Dear Boca Rocket,
What about all of the interceptions? Also, that could be a misleading statistic in the sense that if his team lost the game....so what.
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RE: Brogan Roback is our X Factot
(08-24-2017 07:36 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 05:15 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Speight....terrible when it matters:
E. Asa
11/26, 103 yds, 0 TD, 1 Int = Loss vs Iowa
23/36, 219 yds, 2 TD, 2 Int = Loss vs OSU
21/38, 163 yds, 1 TD, 1 Int = Loss vs FSU

O'Korn........hasn't won a QB job since 2013

Shane Morris............03-lmfao Winner of 'The most overrated Michigan high school football recruit in the last 10-20 years' award.

Those OSU numbers are good. That's a 155.57 PER
Roback's was 131.9 for last season

The only thing 'good' is the completion %. The total yards show the reason for the high percentage was little dink and dunk throws.

AND you conveniently ignore the most important stat in that line, which basically lost the game for them..........1 pick that was returned for a TD, and a 2nd pick deep in Michigan's own territory. The other glaring blown play by Speight that doesn't show up in that line, was his fumble on the OSU 1 yard line!!
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(08-24-2017 05:15 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Speight....terrible when it matters:

11/26, 103 yds, 0 TD, 1 Int = Loss vs Iowa
23/36, 219 yds, 2 TD, 2 Int = Loss vs OSU
21/38, 163 yds, 1 TD, 1 Int = Loss vs FSU

O'Korn........hasn't won a QB job since 2013

Shane Morris............03-lmfao Winner of 'The most overrated Michigan high school football recruit in the last 10-20 years' award.

ETough, you just slam dunked on wickersham!
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RE: Brogan Roback is our X Factot
Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo
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(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

Yep, last year Toledo had more skilled players and supporting cast. This year it's a toss up. We look forward to visiting Toledo this season.
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(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

FU Troll

Tried to be cordial. Cute how this went from a Wilton Speight conversation, to you throwing shade at our QB. Go back to your own board if you just wanna come here and talk nonsense.
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(08-24-2017 10:27 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

FU Troll

Tried to be cordial. Cute how this went from a Wilton Speight conversation, to you throwing shade at our QB. Go back to your own board if you just wanna come here and talk nonsense.

No, the thread is about Roback. The conversation went to how Roback might be the
best FBS QB in Michigan. Some Speight's numbers posted with a comment on how he underperformed in important games. I posted Roback's numbers against a not great Rocket Defense without comment. Btw, I'm very cordial and always willing to engage in thoughtful discourse. I do not troll.
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(08-24-2017 04:29 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 04:11 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 11:54 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Might Roback be the best college QB in the state? I think yes.
Sad commentary on the state's college QB's. I would say Wilton Speight is better. Hell, John O'Korn (put up big numbers at Houston) is better...Shane Morris at CMU maybe/probably too. Roback has the potential to be very good but thus far has been inconsistent.
What in the h3ll has Morris ever done? Just because he played for Michigan does not make him better. Sounds like a walmart wolverine mentality.
I HATE U-M, just being objective. Roback would not have even seen the field at U-M. In addition to being a questionable decision maker, I hear he's kind of a jerk/poor leader. Don't shoot the messenger.
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(08-25-2017 06:35 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:27 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

FU Troll

Tried to be cordial. Cute how this went from a Wilton Speight conversation, to you throwing shade at our QB. Go back to your own board if you just wanna come here and talk nonsense.

No, the thread is about Roback. The conversation went to how Roback might be the
best FBS QB in Michigan. Some Speight's numbers posted with a comment on how he underperformed in important games. I posted Roback's numbers against a not great Rocket Defense without comment. Btw, I'm very cordial and always willing to engage in thoughtful discourse. I do not troll.
You presented your opinion backed by FACTS. People can't just disagree here, get used to it.
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We also cannot forget that Roback could not even beat out Reggie Bell or Todd Porter to open previous seasons? Why? Has anyone ever wondered why?? I just hope that he has finally gotten his head right and is ready to be a solid, mature leader this season. I gotta see it though before I anoint him a better player than the QB of the #8 team in the nation. Come on!
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Dear Bob,
One of the reasons Porter started last season was because Roback was suspended for the first two or three games. It also became apparent after the first games were played, that Porter was not going to be the starter.
As far as Boca Rocket presenting facts, like I said in my statement above, sometimes they can be misleading. It's like the old quote; "Our place kicker only missed one extra point all season". You then find out that the team only scored one touchdown all season. Thus the misleading statistic.
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(08-24-2017 10:26 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

Yep, last year Toledo had more skilled players and supporting cast. This year it's a toss up. We look forward to visiting Toledo this season.

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(08-25-2017 07:43 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 06:35 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:27 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

FU Troll

Tried to be cordial. Cute how this went from a Wilton Speight conversation, to you throwing shade at our QB. Go back to your own board if you just wanna come here and talk nonsense.

No, the thread is about Roback. The conversation went to how Roback might be the
best FBS QB in Michigan. Some Speight's numbers posted with a comment on how he underperformed in important games. I posted Roback's numbers against a not great Rocket Defense without comment. Btw, I'm very cordial and always willing to engage in thoughtful discourse. I do not troll.
You presented your opinion backed by FACTS. People can't just disagree here, get used to it.

Hey, hey everybody.........the season has arrived.......and our own little WickerTroll is back.
Surprise, surprise.

Feel free to mock and 03-nutkick often, as he spits his usual nonsense, criticizes everything EMU, and fawns all over our foes.

Welcome back Bonnie!
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(08-25-2017 07:50 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  We also cannot forget that Roback could not even beat out Reggie Bell or Todd Porter to open previous seasons? Why? Has anyone ever wondered why?? I just hope that he has finally gotten his head right and is ready to be a solid, mature leader this season. I gotta see it though before I anoint him a better player than the QB of the #8 team in the nation. Come on!

From the guy who thought Reggie Bell was Vince Young.

And look where Reggie Bell and Todd Porter are now.........while Roback is on major pre-season watch lists, and getting serious attention from NFL evaluators.

Keep up the brilliant analysis!
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(08-25-2017 10:27 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:50 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  We also cannot forget that Roback could not even beat out Reggie Bell or Todd Porter to open previous seasons? Why? Has anyone ever wondered why?? I just hope that he has finally gotten his head right and is ready to be a solid, mature leader this season. I gotta see it though before I anoint him a better player than the QB of the #8 team in the nation. Come on!

From the guy who thought Reggie Bell was Vince Young.

And look where Reggie Bell and Todd Porter are now.........while Roback is on major pre-season watch lists, and getting serious attention from NFL evaluators.

Keep up the brilliant analysis!

Bob W comes down from his mighty mountain to offer his 'insights' but seems to be absent a lot and misses a lot.

As we all (but Bob W) knew, Roback was suspended for 2 games to start the season.

The reason NO work is being done on the scoreboard as it will be gone, gone, gone when work begins on the new football building. That was discussed in depth here when the building plans were announced to great fanfare here.

All straightforward and easy for forum readers to understand...
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(08-25-2017 10:27 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:50 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  We also cannot forget that Roback could not even beat out Reggie Bell or Todd Porter to open previous seasons? Why? Has anyone ever wondered why?? I just hope that he has finally gotten his head right and is ready to be a solid, mature leader this season. I gotta see it though before I anoint him a better player than the QB of the #8 team in the nation. Come on!

From the guy who thought Reggie Bell was Vince Young.

And look where Reggie Bell and Todd Porter are now.........while Roback is on major pre-season watch lists, and getting serious attention from NFL evaluators.

Keep up the brilliant analysis!
A special thanks to you and Ken for proving my point. Per Ken, Porter started because Roback was suspended. Good leaders, (especially QBs!) don't get suspended and apparently, both Bell and Porter suck, yet they both beat out the petulant Roback. Hey, I'm hoping he's grown up this season and has better focus, but we have to see it! I'm sure Reggie Bell is the Vince Young of Ferris State, he must surely be dominating that level. Roback has a ton of arm talent, no one would say otherwise...but so did Jeff George and Jay Cutler. Just saying.
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(08-25-2017 09:07 AM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:26 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

Yep, last year Toledo had more skilled players and supporting cast. This year it's a toss up. We look forward to visiting Toledo this season.

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Typos in memes that are meant to mock another individual always make me laugh. Well done, smart guy.
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(08-25-2017 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 09:07 AM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:26 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

Yep, last year Toledo had more skilled players and supporting cast. This year it's a toss up. We look forward to visiting Toledo this season.

[Image: 1548bd09412e3fac50eb4e59bcd4d6410f9b2cf7...be0e92.jpg]

You may want to lay off the kool-aid.

Typos in memes that are meant to mock another individual always make me laugh. Well done, smart guy.

He is from Toledo ya know........a little slow down there. 03-lmfao
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(08-25-2017 10:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 10:27 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:50 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  We also cannot forget that Roback could not even beat out Reggie Bell or Todd Porter to open previous seasons? Why? Has anyone ever wondered why?? I just hope that he has finally gotten his head right and is ready to be a solid, mature leader this season. I gotta see it though before I anoint him a better player than the QB of the #8 team in the nation. Come on!

From the guy who thought Reggie Bell was Vince Young.

And look where Reggie Bell and Todd Porter are now.........while Roback is on major pre-season watch lists, and getting serious attention from NFL evaluators.

Keep up the brilliant analysis!

Bob W comes down from his mighty mountain to offer his 'insights' but seems to be absent a lot and misses a lot.

As we all (but Bob W) knew, Roback was suspended for 2 games to start the season.

The reason NO work is being done on the scoreboard as it will be gone, gone, gone when work begins on the new football building. That was discussed in depth here when the building plans were announced to great fanfare here.

All straightforward and easy for forum readers to understand...

Except for Bob who's too busy critiquing posters and finding ways to nitpick anything EMU. False news you say, Bob is a false fan.
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(08-25-2017 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 09:07 AM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:26 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 09:44 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Roback 20-38 255 yds 1TD 1 INT EMU 2-10 3rd down conversion. @Rynearson vs
Toledo

Yep, last year Toledo had more skilled players and supporting cast. This year it's a toss up. We look forward to visiting Toledo this season.

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You may want to lay off the kool-aid.

Typos in memes that are meant to mock another individual always make me laugh. Well done, smart guy.

Including a selfie of yourself in the meme is also not cool.
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