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Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.

Yeah, if you really want to be known as a P6 then you have to put the best foot forward each night from a television standpoint. Get as many good matchups as you can that will attract a lot of viewers. Will only help with the next round of negotiating. Aresco seems like a forward thinker and a smart man. I am sure it will all work out best
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.

Makes no sense not to have the projected top 6 teams playing each other each year. So if the below were the top 6 and bottom 6 for next season then you would have 2 against the bottom and you could pick 1 based on region and 1 based on strength and maybe they are the same thing. So maybe Wichtita plays Cincy, SMU, Temple, Houston, UConn, Tulsa and Memphis twice and the rest once.

Wichita
Cincy
SMU
Temple
Houston
UConn

Tulsa
UCF
Memphis
USF
Tulane
ECU
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:19 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.

Makes no sense not to have the projected top 6 teams playing each other each year. So if the below were the top 6 and bottom 6 for next season then you would have 2 against the bottom and you could pick 1 based on region and 1 based on strength and maybe they are the same thing. So maybe Wichtita plays Cincy, SMU, Temple, Houston, UConn, Tulsa and Memphis twice and the rest once.

Wichita
Cincy
SMU
Temple
Houston
UConn

Tulsa
UCF
Memphis
USF
Tulane
ECU

Perfect way to maximize bids also. Improves SoS, which they count on a ton when giving out bids. Gives those top teams more shots at top 50 wins. Yeah, I guess you could get into where it may eliminate someone if they don't win enough, but that will always be part of it.

Best to just get as many on or above the bubble as possible and see how the chips fall selection sunday
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

That is the one downside. Things rarely shake out exactly how it should. A few injuries, some chemistry issues, lose a coach...Etc and the powers can shift. There's just no perfect science to this. That is what makes it so fun. Glad it isn't on my shoulders though lol
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

As a stock, the ECU HC job has steadily risen in value and perception (through no effort from Jeff Compher)... They just need an AD that is going to capitalize on the conference and land a capable Head Coach.

There are some decent programs in that state who don't have the built in advantages the ECU program has now. How they continue to have high expectations, while ECU stays stagnant is intriguing to say the least.

It's as simple as posting job applications.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 01:19 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.

Makes no sense not to have the projected top 6 teams playing each other each year. So if the below were the top 6 and bottom 6 for next season then you would have 2 against the bottom and you could pick 1 based on region and 1 based on strength and maybe they are the same thing. So maybe Wichtita plays Cincy, SMU, Temple, Houston, UConn, Tulsa and Memphis twice and the rest once.

Wichita
Cincy
SMU
Temple
Houston
UConn

Tulsa
UCF
Memphis
USF
Tulane
ECU

Take this thought a step further: formalize it into a soccer-style promotion/relegation system. Win in the top half, stay in the top half. It'd add drama and a real urgency to the middle of the pack games, and give UCONN fans something else to cry about.
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RE: Tulsa World TV: Frank Haith has a lot to say about Wichita move to the AAC (video)
(04-09-2017 02:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

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No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

As a stock, the ECU HC job has steadily risen in value and perception (through no effort from Jeff Compher)... They just need an AD that is going to capitalize on the conference and land a capable Head Coach.

There are some decent programs in that state who don't have the built in advantages the ECU program has now. How they continue to have high expectations, while ECU stays stagnant is intriguing to say the least.

It's as simple as posting job applications.

Maybe in the distant future I could see it, but you could make that argument for any program in the country. Farleigh Dickinson could be the new gonzaga in 20 years. As it stands now ECU is committed to mediocrity in the sport and probably for good reason. It is always going to be tough to recruit in a state with UNC, Duke, NC State and Wake. They do have the facilities and fan base to be the best foot football school in the state though.
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(04-09-2017 02:42 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

As a stock, the ECU HC job has steadily risen in value and perception (through no effort from Jeff Compher)... They just need an AD that is going to capitalize on the conference and land a capable Head Coach.

There are some decent programs in that state who don't have the built in advantages the ECU program has now. How they continue to have high expectations, while ECU stays stagnant is intriguing to say the least.

It's as simple as posting job applications.

Maybe in the distant future I could see it, but you could make that argument for any program in the country. Farleigh Dickinson could be the new gonzaga in 20 years. As it stands now ECU is committed to mediocrity in the sport and probably for good reason. It is always going to be tough to recruit in a state with UNC, Duke, NC State and Wake. They do have the facilities and fan base to be the best foot football school in the state though.

College basketball, like college football and pro sports, is almost entirely coach driven.

ECU just needs to find the right guy. For now, they are our DePaul.
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(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

They should dump basketball and start a curling team. Bet they'd be more competitive in that even being so far south.
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In basketball, there is no Power 5, and there is no Power 6 that excludes the Big East.

The Big East won the 2016 national championship and in 2017 produced 7 out of 10 participants in the NCAA tournament (highest perfentage among all 32 leagues), plus 2 Sweet 16 teamsand one in the Elite Eight.

The American is very much right in line with the SEC and Pac-12, but there is a bit of a blur about how much better the AAC is than the A-10, at least in the past three seasons. Wichita will of course help a lot, though.
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(04-09-2017 02:46 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:42 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

As a stock, the ECU HC job has steadily risen in value and perception (through no effort from Jeff Compher)... They just need an AD that is going to capitalize on the conference and land a capable Head Coach.

There are some decent programs in that state who don't have the built in advantages the ECU program has now. How they continue to have high expectations, while ECU stays stagnant is intriguing to say the least.

It's as simple as posting job applications.

Maybe in the distant future I could see it, but you could make that argument for any program in the country. Farleigh Dickinson could be the new gonzaga in 20 years. As it stands now ECU is committed to mediocrity in the sport and probably for good reason. It is always going to be tough to recruit in a state with UNC, Duke, NC State and Wake. They do have the facilities and fan base to be the best foot football school in the state though.

College basketball, like college football and pro sports, is almost entirely coach driven.

ECU just needs to find the right guy. For now, they are our DePaul.

Except DePaul was really good once upon a time, has a brand spanking new arena being built, and is in Chicago, one of the best places for high school talent. EDU is just a much tougher place to win.
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(04-09-2017 08:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:46 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:42 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.

As a stock, the ECU HC job has steadily risen in value and perception (through no effort from Jeff Compher)... They just need an AD that is going to capitalize on the conference and land a capable Head Coach.

There are some decent programs in that state who don't have the built in advantages the ECU program has now. How they continue to have high expectations, while ECU stays stagnant is intriguing to say the least.

It's as simple as posting job applications.

Maybe in the distant future I could see it, but you could make that argument for any program in the country. Farleigh Dickinson could be the new gonzaga in 20 years. As it stands now ECU is committed to mediocrity in the sport and probably for good reason. It is always going to be tough to recruit in a state with UNC, Duke, NC State and Wake. They do have the facilities and fan base to be the best foot football school in the state though.

College basketball, like college football and pro sports, is almost entirely coach driven.

ECU just needs to find the right guy. For now, they are our DePaul.

Except DePaul was really good once upon a time, has a brand spanking new arena being built, and is in Chicago, one of the best places for high school talent. EDU is just a much tougher place to win.

Temple plucked some very good talent from ECUs back yard. The fact that ECU is having such trouble bringing in talent is entirely on the staff.
Memphis is already looking in better shape than the Pirates after the last Juco commits. And that's after Tubby hit reset.
Lebo is just lazy. He doesn't develop players.
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(04-09-2017 02:38 PM)fastbow Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:19 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:07 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:55 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

It had better be that way. If we want to call ourselves a power conference than we cannot ignore our marquee match-ups. I am sure that the ACC does not allow a home only between Duke and NC etc ...

After listening to Aresco, I'm pretty sure the marquee match-ups will be maximized. I don't see it breaking down into anything resembling divisions. That's been made pretty clear.

Makes no sense not to have the projected top 6 teams playing each other each year. So if the below were the top 6 and bottom 6 for next season then you would have 2 against the bottom and you could pick 1 based on region and 1 based on strength and maybe they are the same thing. So maybe Wichtita plays Cincy, SMU, Temple, Houston, UConn, Tulsa and Memphis twice and the rest once.

Wichita
Cincy
SMU
Temple
Houston
UConn

Tulsa
UCF
Memphis
USF
Tulane
ECU

Take this thought a step further: formalize it into a soccer-style promotion/relegation system. Win in the top half, stay in the top half. It'd add drama and a real urgency to the middle of the pack games, and give UCONN fans something else to cry about.


interesting...
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(04-09-2017 02:01 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 12:48 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 11:54 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://www.tulsaworldtv.com/TUs-reaction...C-32236391

Great interviews with Tulsa's Frank Haith and Athletic Director Gragg

- Haith recommends an East-West schedule. Play everyone in your area home and home, and then you play everyone else.
- Great to see a basketball driven move
- They enhance an already great league
- Tremendous amount of respect for Gregg Marshall and Wichita State
- We're a power 6 conference
- Our league is already good from a recruiting standpoint but will get even more competitive
- You're going to get multiple bids to the tournament
- Talks about Tulsa-Wichita rivalry. Wichita still owed them for a game they didn't get to play (jokes)

- AD Derrick Gragg talks scheduling
- Anytime you add a program with the pedigree of Wichita State it bolsters the league even more
- Big time rivalry
- No lose by going to 12/12
- A lot of excitement. Wichita State travels great too.
- P6, we don't take a backseat to anybody

[Image: KrD3Pm.jpg]

No. I don't want to get stuck playing ECU and USF (no offense, guys) home-and-home every season. Luckily it sounds like match-ups will be determined by TV, so the Wichita's, Cincinnati's, and SMU's of the world should be playing twice a year regardless.

You do realize that at some point, USF and ECU will get good, and someone else will be down. Things go in cycles. just few years USF won 2 NCAA tourn games. They new coach could do that within 2 years if he can recruit. Then again, maybe he won't, but you just never know.

I think it's safe to assume ECU will never be good at basketball.


They're not even good at football right now...
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