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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-20-2017 08:24 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:33 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Off the top of my head


Texas


aTm





TexasTech
Baylor
TCU
Houston



SMU
Rice

North Texas
UTEP
UTSA
TexasState

Sam Houston
Stephen F Austin
UT Arlington
UT Pan Am

aTm Corpus Christi
Lamar
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist

Prairie View
Texas Southern
Pulling the numbers from the link posted yesterday it looks like I was off on a couple. The Aggies were slightly ahead of the Longhorns in revenue, Lamar is better off than I thought, and the HBCU schools are up with others. Revised listing (privates don't report so I put them where I think they would go):

aTm 192,000,000
UT 183,000,000

Texas Tech 80,000,000
Baylor NR
TCU NR

Houston 44,000,000
SMU NR

Texas State 34,000,000
NoTexas 31,000,000
UTEP 29,000,000
UTSA 27,000,000
Rice NR

Lamar 16,000,000
Sam Houston 16,000,000
Stephen F Austin 16,000,000

UT Arlington 12,000,000
A&M Corpus Christi 11,000,000
UT Rio Grande Valley 10,000,000
Texas Southern 10,000,000
Prairie View 10,000,000
Houston Baptist NR

Interesting that if Houston had the same media payout as the Big 12(30 million/ school), the Texas Tech and Houston revenues would be nearly the same. Give Houston a Big 12 schedule and I would bet Houston's revenues would match Texas Tech's.
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Post: #122
RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-20-2017 08:24 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:33 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Off the top of my head


Texas


aTm





TexasTech
Baylor
TCU
Houston



SMU
Rice

North Texas
UTEP
UTSA
TexasState

Sam Houston
Stephen F Austin
UT Arlington
UT Pan Am

aTm Corpus Christi
Lamar
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist

Prairie View
Texas Southern
Pulling the numbers from the link posted yesterday it looks like I was off on a couple. The Aggies were slightly ahead of the Longhorns in revenue, Lamar is better off than I thought, and the HBCU schools are up with others. Revised listing (privates don't report so I put them where I think they would go):

aTm 192,000,000
UT 183,000,000

Texas Tech 80,000,000
Baylor NR
TCU NR

Houston 44,000,000
SMU NR

Texas State 34,000,000
NoTexas 31,000,000
UTEP 29,000,000
UTSA 27,000,000
Rice NR

Lamar 16,000,000
Sam Houston 16,000,000
Stephen F Austin 16,000,000

UT Arlington 12,000,000
A&M Corpus Christi 11,000,000
UT Rio Grande Valley 10,000,000
Texas Southern 10,000,000
Prairie View 10,000,000
Houston Baptist NR

You should average over a couple of years to get a more accurate number.
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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-20-2017 01:03 PM)GoCougars Wrote:  
(04-20-2017 08:24 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:33 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Off the top of my head


Texas


aTm





TexasTech
Baylor
TCU
Houston



SMU
Rice

North Texas
UTEP
UTSA
TexasState

Sam Houston
Stephen F Austin
UT Arlington
UT Pan Am

aTm Corpus Christi
Lamar
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist

Prairie View
Texas Southern
Pulling the numbers from the link posted yesterday it looks like I was off on a couple. The Aggies were slightly ahead of the Longhorns in revenue, Lamar is better off than I thought, and the HBCU schools are up with others. Revised listing (privates don't report so I put them where I think they would go):

aTm 192,000,000
UT 183,000,000

Texas Tech 80,000,000
Baylor NR
TCU NR

Houston 44,000,000
SMU NR

Texas State 34,000,000
NoTexas 31,000,000
UTEP 29,000,000
UTSA 27,000,000
Rice NR

Lamar 16,000,000
Sam Houston 16,000,000
Stephen F Austin 16,000,000

UT Arlington 12,000,000
A&M Corpus Christi 11,000,000
UT Rio Grande Valley 10,000,000
Texas Southern 10,000,000
Prairie View 10,000,000
Houston Baptist NR

Interesting that if Houston had the same media payout as the Big 12(30 million/ school), the Texas Tech and Houston revenues would be nearly the same. Give Houston a Big 12 schedule and I would bet Houston's revenues would match Texas Tech's.

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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-20-2017 08:24 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:33 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Off the top of my head


Texas


aTm





TexasTech
Baylor
TCU
Houston



SMU
Rice

North Texas
UTEP
UTSA
TexasState

Sam Houston
Stephen F Austin
UT Arlington
UT Pan Am

aTm Corpus Christi
Lamar
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist

Prairie View
Texas Southern
Pulling the numbers from the link posted yesterday it looks like I was off on a couple. The Aggies were slightly ahead of the Longhorns in revenue, Lamar is better off than I thought, and the HBCU schools are up with others. Revised listing (privates don't report so I put them where I think they would go):

aTm 192,000,000
UT 183,000,000

Texas Tech 80,000,000
Baylor NR
TCU NR

Houston 44,000,000
SMU NR

Texas State 34,000,000
NoTexas 31,000,000
UTEP 29,000,000
UTSA 27,000,000
Rice NR

Lamar 16,000,000
Sam Houston 16,000,000
Stephen F Austin 16,000,000

UT Arlington 12,000,000
A&M Corpus Christi 11,000,000
UT Rio Grande Valley 10,000,000
Texas Southern 10,000,000
Prairie View 10,000,000
Houston Baptist NR

Aggies were only up because of the stadium donations. It was a one time thing, you can see at the top they're +$73MM compared to the previous year. Longhorns will be back being to the highest revenue athletic department in the country this year unless another school has a large one-time increase.
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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
Texas spent over $850K on new LOCKERS for the football players, maybe more (that's if there are only 85 lockers). Each locker cost $10,500. They certainly aren't hurting for money at all.
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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-21-2017 10:36 AM)sctvman Wrote:  Texas spent over $850K on new LOCKERS for the football players, maybe more (that's if there are only 85 lockers). Each locker cost $10,500. They certainly aren't hurting for money at all.

With the world hurting so bad, it's good to know that the Longhorns' jockstraps' needs are fully covered.

I'm more annoyed that other schools feel like they have to keep up with that kind of stuff.
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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
1. UNC
2. Duke

3. NC State
4. Wake Forest




5. East Carolina

6.Charlotte
7. App State
8. Davidson
9. UNCW

The Rest
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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-21-2017 10:36 AM)sctvman Wrote:  Texas spent over $850K on new LOCKERS for the football players, maybe more (that's if there are only 85 lockers). Each locker cost $10,500. They certainly aren't hurting for money at all.
I don't know how many lockers they're getting but it's going to be a $10 million full locker room renovation.
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(04-09-2017 09:40 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  In Georgia I would say:

10 University of Georgia - The Bulldogs gobble up most of the resources in the state and because of the structure of Georgia's Board of Regents all of the state schools come second or third behind UGA.

8 Georgia Tech - The Yellow Jackets get a lot of support from the BOR as well but still fall second to UGA. Being in the ACC and also in the Atlanta market does help them and they are certainly not hurting for money.

6 Georgia State - The Panthers fall a distant third in support from the BOR but they have a huge enrollment and benefit from being in the rich Atlanta market as well. A recent merger with Georgia Perimeter has made them one of the largest schools in the country.

5 Georgia Southern - The Eagles probably get about as much support as Georgia State from the BOR but are not in a rich market. The school is close to Savannah which helps and is the only FBS school in south Georgia which does raise it's profile regionally. In the next few years GS is set to absorb Armstrong St which will give Georgia Southern campuses in three south Georgia cities and raise enrollment by about 30%.

4 Mercer - The Bears are a private school with a rich history and deep pockets. They have all of the resources needed to compete in a Mid-Major FCS conference like the SoCon.

3 Kennesaw State - I don't know as much about Kennesaw St as I do some of the other schools but they do fall well below the FBS schools in the state in terms of resources. Kennesaw also recently merged with another school and has an enrollment of over 30,000 so I have a feeling their profile is on the way up.

1 Savannah State - A HBCU in Savannah this school is notoriously mismanaged and even though they are located in a decent metropolitan area get little support from the community. The state BOR supports Savannah St at the same level as all of it's other mid-tier (most not Div 1) universities but with Georgia Southern currently right down the road and about to move next door (after merging with Armstrong St) they are hurting.
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(04-20-2017 01:03 PM)GoCougars Wrote:  Interesting that if Houston had the same media payout as the Big 12(30 million/ school), the Texas Tech and Houston revenues would be nearly the same. Give Houston a Big 12 schedule and I would bet Houston's revenues would match Texas Tech's.

this statement is laughable it ignores the fact that dem coogs doh spend $22 million more in university funds on athletics than Texas Tech does

if you added $22 million more in university funds to the Texas Tech budget they would be well ahead of dem coogs doh even if dem coogs doh were getting Big 12 money

plus there is the fact that you left in the money that dem coogs doh get from the AAC into that calculation as well.....so you have to remove another $4 or $5 million from that as well if you add in Big 12 money

TTU with a $79.98 million in total revenue and $4.26 million from the academic side

dem coogs doh with $44.82 million in total revenue and $25.99 from the academic side

so even doing dem coogs doh math if you added $30 million to that you are at $74.82 million while pretending that the budgets are now "close to the same"

while of course one is spending at a massively unsustainable level from the academic side to have that "the same" budget

if you added $21.73 million more in academic side spending to Texas Tech well their budget would then be $101.71 which is not "the same" as $74.82 it is a great deal higher

and when you subtract even just $4 million in AAC money from a team that is now in a different conference well $70.82 is nowhere close to being "the same" as $101.71 million it is about $31 million away from being the "same" with all things being equal

even if you cut the TTU academic side subsidy back down to what it is now (sustainable at $4.26 million Vs unsustainable at $25.99) and left dem coogs doh with an academic subsidy they have already stated is not sustainable

well you are looking at a budget of $70.82 million Vs a budget of $79.98 which is a large difference especially with the lack of sustainability of that $25.99 million subsidy

if you cut that subsidy down to a Big 12 high of $7.8 million (OkState) then you are looking at looking $52.62 which is hardly close to $79.98

which is why dem coogs doh did not work for the Big 12 they were not interested in a program that needed to subsidize their athletics department to the tune of $18 million more from the academic side than the next highest academic subsidy in the conference just to be at the very very bottom of the conference revenue scale by $10 million dollars or more

and as to the next very weak argument that will be offered up about ticket sales and donations pouring in if a program was in the Big 12......well that is what separates some from the others.....some have fans and supporters that pay to make things happen and some have fans and supporters that talk about what they could do if someone else made something happen instead of going ahead and spending/giving the money to make it happen no matter the conference they are in

a $10 million dollar difference in revenues is not "the same" as another program when it requires $22+ million MORE in unsustainable academic subsidies to be (not) "the same" IE $10 million less
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