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Is the AAC a 'Power Conference' at least in basketball now w/t addition of WSU?
I already thought the AAC was at least on the cusp before this move. Ultimately, I guess it's where you decide to draw the line but it appears that the AAC is clearly at least the 7th best conference moving forward (already the 6th best in football). My school (ECU) isn't really helping the cause at this juncture and obviously I'm a bit biased but given the history of the programs in the AAC in conjunction with this add, it looks to be a 3-6 bid league every year which would put us on par with the SEC (with 2 less members). No reason to think WSU won't transition at least as well as Creighton, Butler, and Xavier have in the Big East.

All the schools in the AAC are diligently working to try to break through the threshold & the league appears to be as stable as it's been since it's inception. Maybe I'm being optimistic but I think it's realistic to expect a pay raise above what the Big East currently makes. Fox needed content at the time and the Big East had a brand & good quality basketball ready to go. That being said, how different is the quality of product provided by ECU then lets say DePaul at this point. Moreover, the top of the leagues don't look much different in terms of brand, history, etc. Add in the fact that the AAC has a fairly good football product to offer as well (the biggest revenue sport by far) and that creates a presumption that the AAC will get a significant pay raise now that the dust has settled.

Maybe I'm looking through rose colored glasses as I've been know to do but things are certainly looking up at this point for the conference as a whole. For those that don't see it my way, I'm certainly interested in your rebuttals but I'm perhaps more interested in ideas about how to further enhance our collective product in order to continue to improve the AAC's trajectory.
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I think that the AAC is a fine conference. I'm not sure that adding WSU was a good idea. I may be proven wrong. But that's another time. Now back to the topic. The only real way that I can see of the AAC getting to be seen as a " Power Conference" is for the AAC to push for the post season bowl games to become four team tournaments. This would allow a conference like the AAC more chances to play in more nationally recognized games.
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(04-08-2017 09:59 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I think that the AAC is a fine conference. I'm not sure that adding WSU was a good idea. I may be proven wrong. But that's another time. Now back to the topic. The only real way that I can see of the AAC getting to be seen as a " Power Conference" is for the AAC to push for the post season bowl games to become four team tournaments. This would allow a conference like the AAC more chances to play in more nationally recognized games.

^^ This is exactly the problem with trying to blend football vernacular with basketball. Most people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. This poll will only measure a bunch of peoples differing perceptions.
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I don't think that Wichita state actually helps the AAC as far as bids to the NCAA tourney. They will either push the bottom down even further by being a top team, or they will start to lose more games from being in a overall better conference. Then that will hurt the AAC.
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RE: Is the AAC a 'Power Conference' at least in basketball now w/t addition of WSU?
"Power Conference" refers to money, so no.

But I think you mean "high major." I'm torn on this question. On one hand, I don't consider the AAC a high major, but I do consider the SEC one. However, I think that the AAC could very well be better than the SEC more years than not - or at least one of the SEC or PAC. As such, if competency was the only factor, then logically I should either consider the SEC a mid major, or I should consider the AAC a high major. Since I don't, either I'm illogical (which is possible), or there's another unknown, subconscious factor, like name recognition (which is possible).

That's the terribly long-winded way of saying "no," but I don't have a great reason as to why not.
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(04-08-2017 11:54 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  "Power Conference" refers to money, so no.

But I think you mean "high major." I'm torn on this question. On one hand, I don't consider the AAC a high major, but I do consider the SEC one. However, I think that the AAC could very well be better than the SEC more years than not - or at least one of the SEC or PAC. As such, if competency was the only factor, then logically I should either consider the SEC a mid major, or I should consider the AAC a high major. Since I don't, either I'm illogical (which is possible), or there's another unknown, subconscious factor, like name recognition (which is possible).

That's the terribly long-winded way of saying "no," but I don't have a great reason as to why not.

We share the same line of thinking on this, but I disagree on your opinion of the SEC. They have made some solid coaching hires the past few years and seem to be taking hoops seriously now.
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IMO, you are a power conference if 1/3 of your teams regularly gets to the tourney. So that would be 4/12 for the AAC. I think it will hover just below that on average.
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I think the media will render the AAC the way they did CUSAv1.
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For the record I voted no. I think that just adding WSU is going to lead to cannibalization among the AAC programs with a chance at getting a bid, and IMO will eventually lead to Marshall bailing on WSU first decent chance he gets.

The AAC's problem isn't that the top of the conference wasn't good enough.....it's the fact that the rest of the conference was that damn bad. For all the good this does to the top of the conference it makes the bottom that much worse.
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RE: Is the AAC a 'Power Conference' at least in basketball now w/t addition of WSU?
(04-09-2017 12:01 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-08-2017 11:54 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  "Power Conference" refers to money, so no.

But I think you mean "high major." I'm torn on this question. On one hand, I don't consider the AAC a high major, but I do consider the SEC one. However, I think that the AAC could very well be better than the SEC more years than not - or at least one of the SEC or PAC. As such, if competency was the only factor, then logically I should either consider the SEC a mid major, or I should consider the AAC a high major. Since I don't, either I'm illogical (which is possible), or there's another unknown, subconscious factor, like name recognition (which is possible).

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Quote:That's the terribly long-winded way of saying "no," but I don't have a great reason as to why not.

We share the same line of thinking on this, but I disagree on your opinion of the SEC. They have made some solid coaching hires the past few years and seem to be taking hoops seriously now.

Some interesting quotes. 04-cheers

The SEC gets credit for making solid coaching hires? I'd counter that the AAC is doing excellent in that department.

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Love the Wichita add for a lot of reasons that don't include basketball. They are an institutional, geographic, and athletic fit (extending beyond basketball). If we're going to talk basketball though, the fact that Wichita State is in every Top 10 list for next year, and Cincinnati and SMU are rounding out a lot of Top 25s, says a lot.

We can talk about metrics, brands, coaches, etc, but the bottom line is that the AAC has already proven its relevance. There's really not much that needs to be said beyond that.

Brand for brand, the conference stacks up favorably with the best conferences.

You can't talk about the great history of college basketball and exclude the programs in the AAC. There are too many that built this sport. Whether you prefer to count championships, final fours, etc.

Shockers MBB is a great compliment to the conference. Nevertheless, beyond MBB the Shockers just hired an accomplished WBB coach to build a program to one day challenge Geno's Huskies. It's an exciting time. Already, in its relatively short history, the AAC has lay claim to both the Men's and Women's National Champions in the same year.

Of course, beyond the hardwood, I love the add on a baseball level as well. The AAC is already one of the best (high major, power, whatever words to wish to use) baseball conferences in the land too, and the Shockers are a former national champion in that sport.

This is really about excellence in all sports. The records and accomplishments are already there.
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