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AAC- Big East challenge
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys would be in support of doing a challenge series with AAC? Our basketball league is getting stronger everyday and now that we have WSU. It opens new doors04-cheers
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Games against UCONN and Cincy are always fun, and now that Wichita is there that would be a good game. But I wouldn't be in favor of a challenge. Still too much dead wood in the conference and even teams that were strong in their old conferences, like Memphis and Temple, now seem to be withering on the vine. It's just too much risk and way too little reward for a challenge. But UCONN games against any of us would be welcome at any time.
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UConn and Cincinnati - yes. Everyone else? No way.

There's just nothing to gain or add on the Big East's side of things. If we win, it is to be expected. If we lose, we lose perception to the American, and lose to basketball programs that we, frankly, shouldn't. The AAC should schedule something with the A-10. If they do, and win many of those games, then they separate themselves from the A-10 and establish themselves as the 7th best conference, IMO.

The Big East should try and get another scheduling alliance with the PAC-12 to go with our Gavitt Games.
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(04-09-2017 06:54 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpax0MA-a1s

ah, the memories

Lol at ESPN's attempt years ago at creating the perception that the Big East died, and that the tournament would never be again held at Madison Square Garden. Their loss. The Big East is still averaging nearly 20k per Big East Tournament game at the Garden. If they thought the league would not be as successful, or as relevant, or as nationally known, they were very, very wrong.
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I'm sorry but to act like the New Big East is like the Old Big East is just wrong. The Old Big East was the best basketball conference quite possibly EVER- when it was a 15/16 team conference. 7 Final 4 teams in 7 teams with 2 champions in there(and really 3 in 8 given UConn won the following year). Tourney record 11 teams 1 year. That Big East did die.

And this Big East has not been as successful or as relevant, or as nationally known, as that Big East was. I know that riles some folks up- but that's reality. Realistically nothing will compare to what the Big East those 7 years did. I mean, the ACC of the last few years doesn't compare to that even- as much as they would want to make it seem.
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(04-10-2017 11:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm sorry but to act like the New Big East is like the Old Big East is just wrong. The Old Big East was the best basketball conference quite possibly EVER- when it was a 15/16 team conference. 7 Final 4 teams in 7 teams with 2 champions in there(and really 3 in 8 given UConn won the following year). Tourney record 11 teams 1 year. That Big East did die.

And this Big East has not been as successful or as relevant, or as nationally known, as that Big East was. I know that riles some folks up- but that's reality. Realistically nothing will compare to what the Big East those 7 years did. I mean, the ACC of the last few years doesn't compare to that even- as much as they would want to make it seem.

I never said the current incarnation of the Big East was the same as the old one, nor did I ever compare the results of today against those from 2005-2013.

ESPN, with this video from 2013 as example, attempted to spread the narrative that the Big East, which was to become part of Fox, was no more and would cease to exist. Just because ESPN didn't own the content anymore, doesn't mean the the strong brand and reputation of the conference would fail to continue.
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That version of the Big East was and is no more. The problem is that folks want to act like the Big East never changed at all. 2013 was the end of a great era- one of the best conferences ever. The current Big East is a great brand and has a good reputation. But it's not the same at all whatsoever.

And you yourself said that "If they thought the league would not be as successful, or as relevant, or as nationally known, they were very, very wrong. " If that's not comparing the results of today vs those from 2005-13, then what the hell is it? This version is not as successful or relevant or nationally known as it was before.
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(04-10-2017 11:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm sorry but to act like the New Big East is like the Old Big East is just wrong. The Old Big East was the best basketball conference quite possibly EVER- when it was a 15/16 team conference. 7 Final 4 teams in 7 teams with 2 champions in there(and really 3 in 8 given UConn won the following year). Tourney record 11 teams 1 year. That Big East did die.

And this Big East has not been as successful or as relevant, or as nationally known, as that Big East was. I know that riles some folks up- but that's reality. Realistically nothing will compare to what the Big East those 7 years did. I mean, the ACC of the last few years doesn't compare to that even- as much as they would want to make it seem.

Right Stever, and it also riles some folks up, like yourself and a couple other notorious AAC fanboys, that you've been unable to write the obituary yet. No one claims the current BE is as strong as the older one. It clearly was the best college basketball league of all time and had left the ACC in the dust. Nobody is making that claim today. Still, for some reason, you like to portray all BE fans as being stuck in 2011, even though you know that's not the case. What we do claim today, is that we've earned our spot and acknowledgement to be part of what is now considered the P6 in basketball. You talk about the past BE receiving 11 bids to the dance. Well that represented 69% of the league, this years 7 bids represented 70%. It may be years before we see any conference match that number again. Just because the league isn't as top heavy as it once was doesn't mean it's not good.

It is a little old how however, that when someone takes pride in the leagues performance, you and others try to beat them down by saying the league isn't as powerful as it once was. It may not be as powerful, but the 7 bids, sold out MSG BET games, and the eye popping OOC record against the other P6 teams, say the league is still pretty darn good, and way ahead of most others. Wouldn't you agree?
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