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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(05-07-2017 10:22 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, and Utah likely snub their noses at their respective state's land-grant public flagship university (OSU, WSU, AZ St, CO St, and UT St, respectively), but you can't possibly be serious in putting them in the same category of admissions elitism as Cal, Stanford, and UCLA (not sure on USC, but probably closer to those than not). Especially, I would think, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah. And Washington and Colorado only maybe a bit more than those others.

Here is the best proxy I could find...
http://www.collegesimply.com/guides/low-...ance-rate/

You have to take low acceptance rate and a very hard rating.
05-07-2017 10:58 AM
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
Thanks for the link. So Stanford is the hardest in the nation, with 5% acceptance rate on 45k applicants.

The site seems to be missing a lot of data for other schools. U of Oregon, U of Utah, U of Arizona, aren't even on their respective state's lists.
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I wouldn't want a permanent cross-over with Boise State just for the sake of completing a zipper. I think a scheduling agreement between the CA schools of the Pac and the MWC is about as far as it should go.
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(05-07-2017 11:57 AM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  I wouldn't want a permanent cross-over with Boise State just for the sake of completing a zipper. I think a scheduling agreement between the CA schools of the Pac and the MWC is about as far as it should go.

Yeah Stanford and USC were the hardest to come up with a compelling model. I debated 3 Utah schools with
Utah/Utah State
And BYU/Stanford

The scheduling agreement only works if they are on "equal P5 footing" of course if the PAC 12 took Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and maybe New Mexico (assumes West Virginia is out of the picture) you could get there with the Big 12.

Not that it would happen but say you also took Reno Hawaii and Houston and gave the Big 12 Washington State, Oregon State and Arizona State. 05-stirthepot

Then you have:
PAC-12. Big 12
Wash. Washington State
Oregon. Oregon State
Oklahoma Oklahoma State
Cal. Fresno State
UCLA. SDSU
Hawaii. UNLV
Reno Boise
Kansas. Kansas State
Arizona. Arizona State
Colorado. Colorado State
USC. Baylor
Stanford. TCU
Texas. Texas Tech
Utah. BYU
Houston. Iowa State

With bowl tie ins and cross over games it would generate interest I think.
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
If the elitist PAC schools are separating from ASU, OSU, and WSU, I don't see them letting in Nevada and Hawaii. And, I don't see Houston getting in ahead of other legacy Big 12 schools. So....

PAC WEST
Washington (WSU)
Oregon (OSU)
Cal (Hawaii)
Stanford (Rice)
USC (SDSU)
UCLA (UNLV)
Arizona (ASU)

PAC EAST
Colorado (CSU)
Utah (BYU)
Texas (TCU)
TTech (Baylor)
Oklahoma (OSU)
Kansas (KSU)
Iowa State (Houston)

Big 12 WEST
WSU (Washington)
OSU (Oregon)
ASU (Arizona)
SDSU (USC)
UNLV (UCLA)
Hawaii (Cal)
BYU (Utah)

Big 12 EAST
TCU (Texas)
Baylor (TTech)
Houston (Iowa St.)
Rice (Stanford)
OSU (Oklahoma)
KSU (Kansas)
CSU (Colorado)
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(05-07-2017 10:22 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, and Utah likely snub their noses at their respective state's land-grant public flagship university (OSU, WSU, AZ St, CO St, and UT St, respectively), but you can't possibly be serious in putting them in the same category of admissions elitism as Cal, Stanford, and UCLA (not sure on USC, but probably closer to those than not). Especially, I would think, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah. And Washington and Colorado only maybe a bit more than those others.

Arizona State is NOT a Land Grant, or a technically a Flagship (by your own definition - U of Arizona is both). Arizona State is no different than those "fake Landgrants" like Illinois State you like to deride - started as teachers colleges
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
If one could actually get PAC dissolution with 9 votes including UW, UO, and AZ...

PAC WEST
Washington (WSU)
Oregon (OSU)
Cal (UNM)
Stanford (ISU)
USC (Baylor)
UCLA (TCU)

PAC EAST
Arizona (ASU)
Colorado (CSU)
Utah (BYU)
Texas (TTU)
Oklahoma (OSU)
Kansas (KSU)

Big 12 WEST
WSU (Washington)
OSU (Oregon)
ASU (Arizona)
UNM (Cal)
CSU (CU)
BYU (Utah)

Big 12 EAST
TCU (UCLA)
Baylor (USC)
ISU (Stanford)
OSU (Oklahoma)
KSU (Kansas)
TTU (UT)

I think that BigXII, with 9 current P5 schools would legitimately remain a P5 conference. Ain't gonna happen, but it's probably exactly what would generate the most revenue without relegating little brothers to permanent G5 status.
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
Might as well end this thread. People are talking about the Big XII fantasy realignments
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