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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
So, does UCSD have any other Division 1 options? WAC? Would Big Sky take UCSD and UC-Davis Olympic sports? Olympic sports travel partner with SDSU in the MWC?

Would the other UC's in the Big West realign to a new conference with UCSD and perhaps Hawaii?
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(04-17-2017 12:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  It does a terrible job of serving the state's residents.

For example: if you took California's system and applied it to a state the size of Ohio, it'd be about the same size and quality as Ohio's system would be if you shut down Cincinnati, Miami, and Ohio U. This is despite California spending 70% more per state resident.

CSU is the system to serve the state's residents. End of story.

UC is a global leader in the research of fundamental science and development of breakthrough technology, cures, and ideas. It doesn't just target the best in brightest in California, which again is correct.
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(04-17-2017 01:19 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 12:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  It does a terrible job of serving the state's residents.

For example: if you took California's system and applied it to a state the size of Ohio, it'd be about the same size and quality as Ohio's system would be if you shut down Cincinnati, Miami, and Ohio U. This is despite California spending 70% more per state resident.

CSU is the system to serve the state's residents. End of story.

UC is a global leader in the research of fundamental science and development of breakthrough technology, cures, and ideas. It doesn't just target the best in brightest in California, which again is correct.

Then why does the UC system receive such massive state funding?

Even if I accept your idea, I would still argue that the UC system does a poor job. The UC system actually educates fewer doctoral students per capita than the state flagships of most other states. I just looked it up and California's public schools produce about 7,000 doctoral graduates per year (6,967 in 2015). Per-capita, this ranks 45th in the USA.

Also, if you're saying that the CSU system is the state's only higher ed system designed to educate California's citizens, then it is failing miserably. It's nowhere near big enough, and 2/3 of its schools are simply not very good educational institutions.
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RE: Big West Rejects UC San Diego
(04-17-2017 01:32 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Then why does the UC system receive such massive state funding?

It's one of the primary drivers of the state's economy and attracting global talent to the state. They'd be insane not to massively invest in it.

(04-17-2017 01:32 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The UC system actually educates fewer doctoral students per capita than the state flagships of most other states.

Dollar and impact of the work is more important than the number of PhD graduates granted.

(04-17-2017 01:32 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  It's nowhere near big enough, and 2/3 of its schools are simply not very good educational institutions.

Not sure I buy that. Why do you think those things?
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(04-17-2017 01:32 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  I just looked it up and California's public schools produce about 7,000 doctoral graduates per year (6,967 in 2015). Per-capita, this ranks 45th in the USA.

Why does per capita matter?

Quality, not quantity.
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