(04-11-2017 10:40 AM)NJ1 Wrote: The best way to "protest" would be to offer to buy out his contract.
Those of us who aren't prepared to do that are probably better off supporting our team and coach.
I tend to agree. However, it is possible to simultaneously criticize the coach while providing the funds and support needed to sustain the program. The means of protest - for me the average fan - will likely take a different form. Other good fans may choose to boycott in good conscience.
(04-06-2017 01:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: The stormy tenure of Tubby increases intensity with each passing day and fan discontent mounts. The concerns of deep pocketed boosters are given serious consideration by the U of M AD and President. They have a voice, but what means may the devoted fans of relatively modest means employ?
I see the following options:
1. Cease buying season tickets,
2. Stop attending games,
3. Cut back or end TSF contributions,
4. Express concerns with U of M AD and President,
5. Combination thereof.
What option(s) do you choose?
Good Tiger fans may differ, but I will continue buying season tickets, attend games, and making TSF contributions (I actually increased the amount this year). I am pondering my respond to the U of M brass, if any.
the only thing they understand or care about is dollaz and centz.
You and b can put up 100 million each. Could probably name the next coach and pay for him also.
I'm not flying all the way into Memphis for a blowout or a cupcake. I'm not sure there is much in between those extremes.
I was planning on buying 2 season's tickets in the cheaper sections...and giving them to my family. I figure they can move down into better seating at the half.
Well go ahead and see what that'll get you, a team without a coach. Is that what you really want? He took over a piece of crap team in Lubbock and took it to the NCAA Tournament starting from scratch. Give him and the team a chance and see if he can do it here. I'm just tired of all the bitching and complaining. It hasn't seemed to work, try something else.
1. Start a #notmytigerscoach campaign
2. Don't show up for work and march instead (then you won't have $$$ to be tempted to spend on basketball Tigers)<this will be our only "march Madness" for years to come
3. Post lots on messa...errr, I see this one has been taken
4. "Join the Revolution" and help recruit kids to Memphis. There are many JuCos and small NAIA and D2 colleges in the area. Plus, think of all the great YMCAs with grown ups who have eligibility left! "Outside the Box" people! BAM!
Well go ahead and see what that'll get you, a team without a coach. Is that what you really want? He took over a piece of crap team in Lubbock and took it to the NCAA Tournament starting from scratch. Give him and the team a chance and see if he can do it here. I'm just tired of all the bitching and complaining. It hasn't seemed to work, try something else.
When people say things like Smith won't be successful here because of the state of the team/roster, etc., I think about what he took over when he got to Lubbock. That was a mess. The situation here is no where near as bad.
Well go ahead and see what that'll get you, a team without a coach. Is that what you really want? He took over a piece of crap team in Lubbock and took it to the NCAA Tournament starting from scratch. Give him and the team a chance and see if he can do it here. I'm just tired of all the bitching and complaining. It hasn't seemed to work, try something else.
When people say things like Smith won't be successful here because of the state of the team/roster, etc., I think about what he took over when he got to Lubbock. That was a mess. The situation here is no where near as bad.
Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
Sure, just don't tell us in year 4 that grinding out 22-12 records with 3 stars and JCs is acceptable and admirable and all that mumbo jumbo.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
Sure, just don't tell us in year 4 that grinding out 22-12 records with 3 stars and JCs is acceptable and admirable and all that mumbo jumbo.
A reasonable expectation is a return to the NCAA tournament. Based on Memphis's history, we should be in either the NIT or NCAA every single year. A Sweet 16 occasionally and when the stars line up, an Elite Eight or better. If we're not back in the big dance in four years, it's time to pull the trigger.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
Sure, just don't tell us in year 4 that grinding out 22-12 records with 3 stars and JCs is acceptable and admirable and all that mumbo jumbo.
A reasonable expectation is a return to the NCAA tournament. Based on Memphis's history, we should be in either the NIT or NCAA every single year. A Sweet 16 occasionally and when the stars line up, an Elite Eight or better. If we're not back in the big dance in four years, it's time to pull the trigger.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
Sure, just don't tell us in year 4 that grinding out 22-12 records with 3 stars and JCs is acceptable and admirable and all that mumbo jumbo.
A reasonable expectation is a return to the NCAA tournament. Based on Memphis's history, we should be in either the NIT or NCAA every single year. A Sweet 16 occasionally and when the stars line up, an Elite Eight or better. If we're not back in the big dance in four years, it's time to pull the trigger.
I hope you don't mean 4 years from now.
Year 1 is over. He should be in the dance by year 4. If not, pull the trigger.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
Sure, just don't tell us in year 4 that grinding out 22-12 records with 3 stars and JCs is acceptable and admirable and all that mumbo jumbo.
A reasonable expectation is a return to the NCAA tournament. Based on Memphis's history, we should be in either the NIT or NCAA every single year. A Sweet 16 occasionally and when the stars line up, an Elite Eight or better. If we're not back in the big dance in four years, it's time to pull the trigger.
All Tigers coaches (except Price/Jones) since Bartow made the NCAA Tourney within 2 to 3 years upon hire. Tubby should be held by the same standard, IMO. Furthermore, a Moe Iba type season next year is unacceptable to me.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
He walked into a Tower 7 burning building, not Tower 1 or 2.
Then, for some mysterious reason, the whole things collapsed for no good reason...just like Tower 7.
(04-11-2017 03:32 PM)PATiger Wrote: Any coach......football, basketball, baseball, tennis, whatever.....deserves four years to show results. No one should be fired before that time unless they get busted on NCAA violations, get arrested, are alcoholics/substance abusers, or something detrimental to the university. Other than that, leave them alone and give them four years to prove themselves.
Wayyyyyyy too many people are pulling the trigger early on Tubby. Give the man time. He walked into a burning building.
If you fire Tubby before that 4th year we'll be hiring Barney Fife as head coach. What fool would want to come into a hornet's nest like that?
(This post was last modified: 04-11-2017 10:43 PM by DALLAS TIGER 78.)
Well I quit watching and going to Tiger games 3 or 4 years ago.. I use to never miss a game.. I'm an Alum and a 35 plus year supporter.. I was ecstatic when Pastner moved on but when I heard the hire was Tubby I knew in my heart of hearts it was a bad bad hire.. Tubby I'm sure is a great man and he is a good X's and O's Coach but he has never been a great recruiter and neither has his staff..Here at Memphis you have to be, especially now.. FB is where I spend my time and money now but I also know that with the Coaching turnover that comes with our success we are 1 bad hire away from being irrelevant again and it's much much harder to get FB back than it is Basketball..