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RE: Lee Corso speaking in Houston Last Week
(04-14-2017 10:44 AM)JRsec Wrote: (04-14-2017 10:34 AM)XLance Wrote: (04-12-2017 01:05 PM)JRsec Wrote: (04-12-2017 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote: (04-09-2017 06:01 PM)JRsec Wrote: As far as additions from the Big 12 that add to the bottom line for the ACC and for the SEC:
SEC: Texas, Oklahoma
ACC: Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Texas, T.C.U., West Virginia
As far as additions that would add to the attendance mean of the ACC and SEC:
SEC: Texas, Oklahoma
ACC: Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, West Virginia
So as things appear to me if our two conferences are going to split the schools that add to our bottom line then the SEC taking Oklahoma is essential. Texas is a plus.
For the ACC your real options are much greater in number than you might have believed. You actually could take West Virginia, Iowa State and Kansas and increase your Mean Revenue. West Virginia and Iowa State increase your Mean Attendance. Then if the Irish come on board you are set.
If the SEC had to take Texas Tech and Oklahoma State to get Texas and Oklahoma we still increase our Mean Revenue, but our Mean attendance will go down.
BTW: Conference Mean Attendance 2016:
1. SEC: 77,565
2. B1G: 66,162
3. B12: 57,238
4. PAC: 50,112
5. ACC: 49,827
Conference Mean Revenue:
1. SEC: $121,240,504
2. B1G: $108,269,417
3. B12: $102,170,537
4. PAC: $ 89,239,736
5. ACC: $ 87,034,205
The Big 12:
1. Texas (8th in Attendance 97,881) (1st in Revenue $182,104,126) Bonus: AAU
2. Oklahoma (13th in Attendance 86,857) (4th in Revenue $150,371,578)
3. West Virginia (31st in Attendance 57,583) (39th in Revenue $91,412,352)
4. Oklahoma State (35th in Attendance 53,814) (42nd in Revenue $90,049,297)
5. Texas Tech (30th in Attendance 58,250) (61st in Revenue $72,750,020)
6. Iowa State (37th in Attendance 52,557) (55th in Revenue $78,355,500) Bonus: AAU
7. T.C.U. (49th in Attendance 45,168) (34th in Revenue $93,259,382)
8. Baylor (47th in Attendance 45,838) (41st in Revenue $90,769,041)
9. Kansas State (39th in Attendance 51,919) (56th in Revenue $77,936,660)
10. Kansas (81st in Attendance 25,828) (31st in Revenue $94,697,418) Bonus: AAU
Any further expansion will be about proper fit not money and not attendance. Your own commissioner has said as much.
MR. SEC said that Vanderbilt didn't "fit" the SEC. Nashville was too large for SEC towns and the SEC was not built on "privates". So that would take Texas off of your list because Austin is way bigger than Nashville. It would also remove Oklahoma (and Oklahoma State) off of the ACC's list as we have already said no to a deal that included Oklahoma.
If you think for a minute that money won't be the primary motivation then you are either naive, or disingenuous. I know you know better than that. Fit will play a significant part of the selection process, but the money has to be right before any of it is discussed. Nobody in the SEC would turn down Texas. Obviously the fit has been considered acceptable for 3 decades because we have never given up on the talks.
Money or the lack of it is a part of "fit".
It is not likely that Wake Forest or Georgia Tech would ever join the SEC. They just couldn't afford to compete. Even with an additional $15 million per year it would only get those schools up to Vanderbilt's level. And we know that Vandy hasn't sniffed a SEC football championship.....ever!
There is no guarantee that SEC membership will boost a teams gross revenue to a level that would allow them to be competitive with the Alabama's and LSU's.
AS attendance drops in all conferences except the SEC and the ACC the prospect for higher and higher gross revenue becomes more dependent on sources outside of ticket sales.
Kansas with revenues of $94 million blows the mind knowing that they can generate that much revenue in a small state and football attendance that only averages 25,000. How much do they charge for a Coke?
Maybe, unlike at Coastal Carolina, their cheerleaders work for the Athletic Department.
Low blow, literally.
I believe it was in an article that reviewed the Aggie book 100 year decision, which quoted a KU AD or athletic person saying that the SEC didn't express a ton of interest in KU when KU sent out feelers. I still feel KU's best shot at a SEC spot is if the conference adds another A&M type school and is looking to round out the numbers.
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