(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.

/heavy sarcasm off

Not only does Soft Houston not play a I-A, they play a Div II. At least this year they have a quality I-AA OOC when RU plays them in Huntsville on Thur, 8/31.

NDSU as already mentioned doesn't play a I-A, but they at least they are @ EWU OOC and have @ SDSU and @ YSU. They could end up the top seeded MVFC team. If not them, it will be SDSU or YSU.

SDSU doesn't play a I-A either next season. They get NDSU at home (remember they beat them last year regular season @ NDSU but then lost @ NDSU in the quarterfinals) and coming off a bye are @ YSU. And they appear to be loaded for their best team ever. Of the 4 returning 1st team All MVFC offensive players, all 4 play for SDSU, and I would imagine all 4 will likely be pre season All Americans (QB, TE, WR, OL). Plus they return a 2nd team All MVFC RB & a 2nd team FB. And 1st & 2nd teamers on defense. Think they only lose 1 of 7 Alll MVFC players from last season (MVFC only does a 1st and 2nd team). I would not be surprised to see the winner of the MVFC being SDSU at 10-1 or even 11-0.

YSU gets NDSU & SDSU at home, but they lose a lot from last year...

(03-30-2017 12:28 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 10:10 AM)2Buck Wrote:  FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive.

there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

Well in all fairness, except for Kansas those other teams have had decent teams in the recent past and although some of them may not have been good the year NDST played them, those games are often schedule years in advance so they don't know exactly what team they're getting. I guess my point is they've had a string of wins that would be comparable to us going undefeated against Maryland, Duke, Navy, Wake Forest and East Carolina in a six year span. And many of those FBS teams were manhandled by the Bison.

If we had this past year's team playing all those games we'd have a good shot at it, let's just hope this is the start of us keeping the team primed at this level for the foreseeable future.

(03-30-2017 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.

/heavy sarcasm off

Not only does Soft Houston not play a I-A, they play a Div II. At least this year they have a quality I-AA OOC when RU plays them in Huntsville on Thur, 8/31.

NDSU as already mentioned doesn't play a I-A, but they at least they are @ EWU OOC and have @ SDSU and @ YSU. They could end up the top seeded MVFC team. If not them, it will be SDSU or YSU.

SDSU doesn't play a I-A either next season. They get NDSU at home (remember they beat them last year regular season @ NDSU but then lost @ NDSU in the quarterfinals) and coming off a bye are @ YSU. And they appear to be loaded for their best team ever. Of the 4 returning 1st team All MVFC offensive players, all 4 play for SDSU, and I would imagine all 4 will likely be pre season All Americans (QB, TE, WR, OL). Plus they return a 2nd team All MVFC RB & a 2nd team FB. And 1st & 2nd teamers on defense. Think they only lose 1 of 7 Alll MVFC players from last season (MVFC only does a 1st and 2nd team). I would not be surprised to see the winner of the MVFC being SDSU at 10-1 or even 11-0.

YSU gets NDSU & SDSU at home, but they lose a lot from last year...

After the flak SH caught this year over their schedules I'd be shocked if they continued scheduling cream puffs out of conference. I think some Texas-sized egos would have surely raised some h*ll over game announcers having publicly eviscerated them on the topic. The Richmond game is going to be fun to watch, almost can't decide which team I rather see get blown out.

JMU beating ECU would not be an upset to JMU fans. To the rest of the sports world it would be.

(03-30-2017 10:26 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  JMU beating ECU would not be an upset to JMU fans. To the rest of the sports world it would be.

This is very true.

(03-30-2017 02:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:24 AM)JMU_71 Wrote:  ... or Western Illinois over Coastal Carolina?

I don't believe Myrtle Beach Community College has 85 on a full ride yet.

Yeah, that's all the more reason to question whether that is truly an upset.

(03-30-2017 09:14 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.

/heavy sarcasm off

Not only does Soft Houston not play a I-A, they play a Div II. At least this year they have a quality I-AA OOC when RU plays them in Huntsville on Thur, 8/31.

NDSU as already mentioned doesn't play a I-A, but they at least they are @ EWU OOC and have @ SDSU and @ YSU. They could end up the top seeded MVFC team. If not them, it will be SDSU or YSU.

SDSU doesn't play a I-A either next season. They get NDSU at home (remember they beat them last year regular season @ NDSU but then lost @ NDSU in the quarterfinals) and coming off a bye are @ YSU. And they appear to be loaded for their best team ever. Of the 4 returning 1st team All MVFC offensive players, all 4 play for SDSU, and I would imagine all 4 will likely be pre season All Americans (QB, TE, WR, OL). Plus they return a 2nd team All MVFC RB & a 2nd team FB. And 1st & 2nd teamers on defense. Think they only lose 1 of 7 Alll MVFC players from last season (MVFC only does a 1st and 2nd team). I would not be surprised to see the winner of the MVFC being SDSU at 10-1 or even 11-0.

YSU gets NDSU & SDSU at home, but they lose a lot from last year...

After the flak SH caught this year over their schedules I'd be shocked if they continued scheduling cream puffs out of conference. I think some Texas-sized egos would have surely raised some h*ll over game announcers having publicly eviscerated them on the topic. The Richmond game is going to be fun to watch, almost can't decide which team I rather see get blown out.

I definitely want Richmond to start off with an L, it only lessens the pressure come November... SHS is barely on my radar anymore, they were @$$holes leading up to the game, they got what they deserved, and now I don't even think about them anymore... doubt we'll see them again this year... Richmond needs the L.

(03-30-2017 09:18 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  Would Maine over UMASS really count as an upset?

Technically yes.

(03-30-2017 09:24 AM)JMU_71 Wrote:  ... or Western Illinois over Coastal Carolina?

Certainly. The thing is, once you get up to that podium and say WE'RE PLAYING BIG BOY FOOTBALL. You're a big boy from then on out. You SHOULD beat teams with fewer scholarships, you know, if you had a decent football program.

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.



/heavy sarcasm off

Two consecutive years of no FBS for SHSU. They're saying local FBS schools are dodging them.

(03-30-2017 12:28 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

Ohio State doesn't schedule FCS, even before the FCS ban within the Big 10. Don't forget that it's tougher for the MVFC teams moving forward because the big boys in their own backyard are refusing to play them now. They now have to hope Big 12, Pac 12 or regional G5 will let them play. Colorado State isn't a P5 btw.

Texas is another P5 who never schedules FCS.

(03-30-2017 04:56 PM)KDHDukesFan Wrote:  If JMU beats ECU, it would be a stretch to call it an upset. ECU lost 9 of their last 10 in 2016, most of those losses were blowouts. JMU has a very good team returning so I would suggest that a loss by JMU would be an upset.

Any time an FCS team beats an FBS team, it's an upset. Even JMU beating Texas State because Texas State has supposed advantages that JMU does not.

(03-30-2017 10:26 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  JMU beating ECU would not be an upset to JMU fans. To the rest of the sports world it would be.

Yes this is a more accurate way to put it. Do I personally expect to beat ECU? I'd say more likely than not. Does that mean anyone that isn't an JMU fan or a strong FCS follower wouldn't call it an upset? Of course they would.

(03-31-2017 10:24 AM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:14 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.

/heavy sarcasm off

Not only does Soft Houston not play a I-A, they play a Div II. At least this year they have a quality I-AA OOC when RU plays them in Huntsville on Thur, 8/31.

NDSU as already mentioned doesn't play a I-A, but they at least they are @ EWU OOC and have @ SDSU and @ YSU. They could end up the top seeded MVFC team. If not them, it will be SDSU or YSU.

SDSU doesn't play a I-A either next season. They get NDSU at home (remember they beat them last year regular season @ NDSU but then lost @ NDSU in the quarterfinals) and coming off a bye are @ YSU. And they appear to be loaded for their best team ever. Of the 4 returning 1st team All MVFC offensive players, all 4 play for SDSU, and I would imagine all 4 will likely be pre season All Americans (QB, TE, WR, OL). Plus they return a 2nd team All MVFC RB & a 2nd team FB. And 1st & 2nd teamers on defense. Think they only lose 1 of 7 Alll MVFC players from last season (MVFC only does a 1st and 2nd team). I would not be surprised to see the winner of the MVFC being SDSU at 10-1 or even 11-0.

YSU gets NDSU & SDSU at home, but they lose a lot from last year...

After the flak SH caught this year over their schedules I'd be shocked if they continued scheduling cream puffs out of conference. I think some Texas-sized egos would have surely raised some h*ll over game announcers having publicly eviscerated them on the topic. The Richmond game is going to be fun to watch, almost can't decide which team I rather see get blown out.

I definitely want Richmond to start off with an L, it only lessens the pressure come November... SHS is barely on my radar anymore, they were @$$holes leading up to the game, they got what they deserved, and now I don't even think about them anymore... doubt we'll see them again this year... Richmond needs the L.

Helps JMU's SOS though if RU were to win, then SHSU finishes 9-2 or 10-1. If JMU drops a game (and the odds are it will happen) a 10-1 JMU with a stronger SOS would help have a better chance at the #1 seed, and help assure a top 2 seed (homefield throughout) at 10-1.

We should hold out noses and root for RU @ SHSU on 8/31, knowing it helps the CAA & JMU...

I'd imagine JMU will open as favorites over ECU

(03-31-2017 12:50 PM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  I'd imagine JMU will open as favorites over ECU

Get your ECU friends involved in a bet now. Ask for 2 TDs; Pirate fans will think that's nothing over a lowly FCS team. The actual point spread will be a reflection more based on perception than relative strength.

Pirate fans are already getting a little worried about playing the Dukes.
http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Board/...t-52078943

(03-31-2017 05:17 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  Pirate fans are already getting a little worried about playing the Dukes.
http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Board/...t-52078943

A good portion of their posters seem realistic about how good we are and the outcome of the game (close). Others are in full on panic mode "if we lose to JMU, season cancel" Grab your popcorn. This is a good one.

ECU fans sound exactly like the SMU fans. It will be a joy seeing them lose.

(03-30-2017 09:18 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  Would Maine over UMASS really count as an upset?

I think the opposite might be the upset.


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(03-31-2017 11:54 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 10:24 AM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:14 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.

/heavy sarcasm off

Not only does Soft Houston not play a I-A, they play a Div II. At least this year they have a quality I-AA OOC when RU plays them in Huntsville on Thur, 8/31.

NDSU as already mentioned doesn't play a I-A, but they at least they are @ EWU OOC and have @ SDSU and @ YSU. They could end up the top seeded MVFC team. If not them, it will be SDSU or YSU.

SDSU doesn't play a I-A either next season. They get NDSU at home (remember they beat them last year regular season @ NDSU but then lost @ NDSU in the quarterfinals) and coming off a bye are @ YSU. And they appear to be loaded for their best team ever. Of the 4 returning 1st team All MVFC offensive players, all 4 play for SDSU, and I would imagine all 4 will likely be pre season All Americans (QB, TE, WR, OL). Plus they return a 2nd team All MVFC RB & a 2nd team FB. And 1st & 2nd teamers on defense. Think they only lose 1 of 7 Alll MVFC players from last season (MVFC only does a 1st and 2nd team). I would not be surprised to see the winner of the MVFC being SDSU at 10-1 or even 11-0.

YSU gets NDSU & SDSU at home, but they lose a lot from last year...

After the flak SH caught this year over their schedules I'd be shocked if they continued scheduling cream puffs out of conference. I think some Texas-sized egos would have surely raised some h*ll over game announcers having publicly eviscerated them on the topic. The Richmond game is going to be fun to watch, almost can't decide which team I rather see get blown out.

I definitely want Richmond to start off with an L, it only lessens the pressure come November... SHS is barely on my radar anymore, they were @$$holes leading up to the game, they got what they deserved, and now I don't even think about them anymore... doubt we'll see them again this year... Richmond needs the L.

Helps JMU's SOS though if RU were to win, then SHSU finishes 9-2 or 10-1. If JMU drops a game (and the odds are it will happen) a 10-1 JMU with a stronger SOS would help have a better chance at the #1 seed, and help assure a top 2 seed (homefield throughout) at 10-1.

We should hold out noses and root for RU @ SHSU on 8/31, knowing it helps the CAA & JMU...

It helps us in SOS for sure if UR wins, but I cannot root for either team. SHS is without a doubt the worst fanbase in FCS (perhaps all of football). Rooting for these teams is like choosing between which eye you want to go blind. They're both terrible options.
Maybe they will both lose and all will be right in the universe.

(03-30-2017 11:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

(03-30-2017 01:30 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  That Iowa team they played last year crushed Iowa State 42-3. Iowa was ranked #13 at the time, finished 8-5.

This year (and going forward?) I don't see any FBS teams on the NDSU schedule and their fans aren't happy about it. They have Robert Morris, EWU and MS Valley shown as their OOC opponents.

They just added @ Arizona in 2020, to go along with future dates @ Oregon ('22) & @ Colorado (24'). They've also been signing home and home with other traditional I-AA powers (ok I know right now UD hasn't been a I-AA power for the last 1/2 doz seasons and it is a stretch to call Weber one).
14'/15' Montana
14'/15' Weber St
16'/17' EWU
18'/19' UD
NDSU 5 season stretch so far 2015-2019, each an 11 game regular season (including 2015 when 12 were allowed) is doing every 2 seasons: no I-A game/@ traditional I-AA traditional power then @ I-A/hosting traditional I-AA power. That way they've maintained 6 home games every season. They have never gone below 6 home games, and from what I have heard they will not do only 5 home games. In 2019 they have @ UD and could still pick up an @ I-A game and still have 6 home games.

2014 @ Iowa State/@ Weber State/hosted Montana (12 game season/6 home)
2015 no I-A/@ Montana (12 games allowed, only played 11)
2016 @ Iowa/hosted EWU

2017 no I-A/@ EWU
2018 no I-A yet scheduled/host UD
2019 no I-A yet scheduled/@ UD (12 game regular season allowed)
2020 @ Oregon
2022 @ Arizona
2024 @ Colorado
http://www.gobison.com/news/2017/4/10/no...izona.aspx