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Rolleyes Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/2598...ium=Social

Quote:Sankey had a statement Tuesday about HB 1249, the Arkansas bill recently passed that would allow concealed firearms inside state university athletic venues (among other places). The Arkansas state senate passed an exemption to the bill last week that would remove places like Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium from having to allow guns, but the measure still must be passed by the Arkansas House and then signed by governor Asa Hutchinson.

Official statement from Sankey:
Quote:The University of Arkansas is a valued member of the Southeastern Conference and has a long history of working with public safety officials to provide a safe environment for intercollegiate athletic competition.
Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.
It is our desire to see athletic events and sports venues exempted from HB 1249.

Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-29-2017 10:31 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/2598...ium=Social

Quote:Sankey had a statement Tuesday about HB 1249, the Arkansas bill recently passed that would allow concealed firearms inside state university athletic venues (among other places). The Arkansas state senate passed an exemption to the bill last week that would remove places like Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium from having to allow guns, but the measure still must be passed by the Arkansas House and then signed by governor Asa Hutchinson.

Official statement from Sankey:
Quote:The University of Arkansas is a valued member of the Southeastern Conference and has a long history of working with public safety officials to provide a safe environment for intercollegiate athletic competition.
Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.
It is our desire to see athletic events and sports venues exempted from HB 1249.

Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.

I seriously doubt any officials at the University of Arkansas would want weapons inside their own venues whether Sankey has anything to say about it or not. And, there is another entity that would be involved before the State of Arkansas gets involved, The Department of Homeland Security would be on this like white on rice.

While I'm a strong advocate for State's rights, and for the ability of our citizens to defend themselves and their property against crime, I am also a common sense guy that approves of the carry restrictions inside the State of Alabama. We can't carry weapons into areas of public assembly, the courtrooms of our state, the classrooms of our schools, or into our stadia and coliseums. I'm very comfortable with that. I only worry about a terrorist towing banners behind small airplanes that circle our stadium. Right now I see that as the biggest potential threat to our home crowd.

Since Sankey said this I am assuming the blessing of the Arkansas administration prompted it and that Arkansas is in no direct danger of getting booted from the SEC.
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
I agree with JR. I have strong doubts Arkansas will be cast away from the SEC. They'd be welcomed to the XII immediately (I presume), but it won't happen.

Just a refresher, Arkansas joined in 1991. In that time, Arkansas has won national championships in:
men's basketball (1)
men's indoor track & field (12)
men's outdoor track & field (9)
women's indoor track & field (1)
women's outdoor track & field (1)

Arkansas also has:
4 football SEC Western Division titles
2 men's basketball SEC regular season titles
1 men's basketball SEC tournament title
2 baseball SEC regular season titles
1 women's volleyball SEC tournament title
21 men's indoor track & field SEC titles
6 women's indoor track & field SEC titles
19 men outdoor track & field SEC titles
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23 men's cross country SEC titles
16 women's cross country SEC titles
1 men's golf SEC title
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-29-2017 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 10:31 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/2598...ium=Social

Quote:Sankey had a statement Tuesday about HB 1249, the Arkansas bill recently passed that would allow concealed firearms inside state university athletic venues (among other places). The Arkansas state senate passed an exemption to the bill last week that would remove places like Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium from having to allow guns, but the measure still must be passed by the Arkansas House and then signed by governor Asa Hutchinson.

Official statement from Sankey:
Quote:The University of Arkansas is a valued member of the Southeastern Conference and has a long history of working with public safety officials to provide a safe environment for intercollegiate athletic competition.
Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.
It is our desire to see athletic events and sports venues exempted from HB 1249.

Low-key: Sounds like Sankey is telling Arkansas, the state of, to fix things or Arkansas, the university of, might not be in the SEC for too much longer. It’s like that thing when a general manager is talking about a coach on the hot seat: “We value the work so-and-so has put into this organization.” Everyone rolls their eyes.

I seriously doubt any officials at the University of Arkansas would want weapons inside their own venues whether Sankey has anything to say about it or not. And, there is another entity that would be involved before the State of Arkansas gets involved, The Department of Homeland Security would be on this like white on rice.

While I'm a strong advocate for State's rights, and for the ability of our citizens to defend themselves and their property against crime, I am also a common sense guy that approves of the carry restrictions inside the State of Alabama. We can't carry weapons into areas of public assembly, the courtrooms of our state, the classrooms of our schools, or into our stadia and coliseums. I'm very comfortable with that. I only worry about a terrorist towing banners behind small airplanes that circle our stadium. Right now I see that as the biggest potential threat to our home crowd.

Since Sankey said this I am assuming the blessing of the Arkansas administration prompted it and that Arkansas is in no direct danger of getting booted from the SEC.


The bill has been amended and will get voted on tomorrow by the house, then it's on to the Governor.

From Bo Mattingly's tweets today, Arkansas state senators finally found a group more powerful than the NRA in the natural state. Also says NRA doesn't favor this bill either.
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Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
Iam a states rights guy too but if Arkansas were to get tossed out of the sec and land in the b12 its recruiting would get a lot better
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-29-2017 07:43 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Iam a states rights guy too but if Arkansas were to get tossed out of the sec and land in the b12 its recruiting would get a lot better

There's no point. Eventually some of the Big 12 will join them in the SEC.03-wink
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-29-2017 08:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:43 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Iam a states rights guy too but if Arkansas were to get tossed out of the sec and land in the b12 its recruiting would get a lot better

There's no point. Eventually some of the Big 12 will join them in the SEC.03-wink

Yep, some more neighbors sounds nice. Come on over Texas, OU, OSU, Tech, KU, WVU.
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-29-2017 11:21 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 08:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:43 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Iam a states rights guy too but if Arkansas were to get tossed out of the sec and land in the b12 its recruiting would get a lot better

There's no point. Eventually some of the Big 12 will join them in the SEC.03-wink

Yep, some more neighbors sounds nice. Come on over Texas, OU, OSU, Tech, KU, WVU.

I don't know if we would go to 20, it's not impossible, but I do think that 18 with Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State is completely viable. I have no problem with 20. But the question would be whether it was Kansas, and Iowa State, or Kansas and West Virginia. As a university Iowa State has a lot to offer. Plus it doesn't screw up the divisions.

Arkansas, L.S.U., Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Alabama, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Geographically that makes more sense. It gives us 10 million more viewers, completes our hold on Texas, and lands us 3 AAU schools. Should W.V.U. find its way into the ACC, and should T.C.U. find its way into the PAC that's enough to dissolve the conference. Now should Texas Tech and T.C.U. as a pair and a way for the PAC to get into Texas then the SEC could add both W.V.U. and Iowa State and now we have over 12 million more viewers. But the geography changes.

Arkansas, L.S.U., Mississippi, Texas, Texas A&M
Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, West Virginia
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
Arkansas ain't getting kicked out, but I'll play.

Arkansas kicked out of SEC, moves to Big 12. All of a sudden, Big 12 has gotten a P5 team and looks a lot more stable. Bring on Arizona/Arizona St.

Big 12 needs one more team, they take Cincy. But now Texas is pitching a fit, so they take Houston and say USF (could be a number of options).

PAC 12 stays at 10 with no team meeting their requirements, but they start to consider/finally pull the trigger on selling part of their network.

The AAC takes Rice. C-USA stays at thirteen.

If GOR is close to over, SEC shifts Missouri west and grabs an ACC team from UNC/Duke/NCState/Virginia/Tech/FSU/Clemson. Let's say its NC State (though of course it could be any of these, though Virginia/Duke/UNC seem unlikely).

ACC takes UConn.

Big 10 makes a play for the ACC brands it wants, but can't pull the trigger.

At 9, AAC takes Umass.

You wind up with SEC at 14 teams, Big 10 at 14, PAC at 10, ACC at 14, and Big 12 at 16, with AAC at 10, MWC at 12, C-USA at 13, Sun Belt at 10, and MAC at 12 with Army, ND, NMSU, BYU and Liberty all as independents.
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-30-2017 09:32 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  Arkansas ain't getting kicked out, but I'll play.

Arkansas kicked out of SEC, moves to Big 12. All of a sudden, Big 12 has gotten a P5 team and looks a lot more stable. Bring on Arizona/Arizona St.

Big 12 needs one more team, they take Cincy. But now Texas is pitching a fit, so they take Houston and say USF (could be a number of options).

PAC 12 stays at 10 with no team meeting their requirements, but they start to consider/finally pull the trigger on selling part of their network.

The AAC takes Rice. C-USA stays at thirteen.

If GOR is close to over, SEC shifts Missouri west and grabs an ACC team from UNC/Duke/NCState/Virginia/Tech/FSU/Clemson. Let's say its NC State (though of course it could be any of these, though Virginia/Duke/UNC seem unlikely).

ACC takes UConn.

Big 10 makes a play for the ACC brands it wants, but can't pull the trigger.

At 9, AAC takes Umass.

You wind up with SEC at 14 teams, Big 10 at 14, PAC at 10, ACC at 14, and Big 12 at 16, with AAC at 10, MWC at 12, C-USA at 13, Sun Belt at 10, and MAC at 12 with Army, ND, NMSU, BYU and Liberty all as independents.

If it were to happen this way I'd think you would se a MAJOR push by the Big 10 for the Pac schools. Pre-Nebraska I believe they were working on a scheduling agreement (not a full merger). This could help the P12 network as well as the BTN.
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RE: Sankey could kick out Arkansas over HB 1249?
(03-31-2017 08:10 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(03-30-2017 09:32 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  Arkansas ain't getting kicked out, but I'll play.

Arkansas kicked out of SEC, moves to Big 12. All of a sudden, Big 12 has gotten a P5 team and looks a lot more stable. Bring on Arizona/Arizona St.

Big 12 needs one more team, they take Cincy. But now Texas is pitching a fit, so they take Houston and say USF (could be a number of options).

PAC 12 stays at 10 with no team meeting their requirements, but they start to consider/finally pull the trigger on selling part of their network.

The AAC takes Rice. C-USA stays at thirteen.

If GOR is close to over, SEC shifts Missouri west and grabs an ACC team from UNC/Duke/NCState/Virginia/Tech/FSU/Clemson. Let's say its NC State (though of course it could be any of these, though Virginia/Duke/UNC seem unlikely).

ACC takes UConn.

Big 10 makes a play for the ACC brands it wants, but can't pull the trigger.

At 9, AAC takes Umass.

You wind up with SEC at 14 teams, Big 10 at 14, PAC at 10, ACC at 14, and Big 12 at 16, with AAC at 10, MWC at 12, C-USA at 13, Sun Belt at 10, and MAC at 12 with Army, ND, NMSU, BYU and Liberty all as independents.

If it were to happen this way I'd think you would se a MAJOR push by the Big 10 for the Pac schools. Pre-Nebraska I believe they were working on a scheduling agreement (not a full merger). This could help the P12 network as well as the BTN.

I don't know what will come of future realignment with regards to the ACC / SEC / and some Big 12 schools, but I think cooperation between the PAC and Big 10 in the future is more than just likely.
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Feel free.
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