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With the exodus, I now console myself that we have hired James Harden in the person of Pera.

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03-28-2017 02:41 PM
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Here's hoping we can keep Langley awhile.

And yes Mr Big, I agree. It is looking like Rhoades gave us a momentary thrill and temporary hope but nothing more.

This is the second time this has happened in four years. I wonder if the problem is something bigger, structural or systemic.
03-28-2017 03:03 PM
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The problem is we hired a coach good enough to get hired away after a few years.
03-28-2017 03:11 PM
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(03-28-2017 03:11 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  The problem is we hired a coach good enough to get hired away after a few years.

The problem is the job at his previous employer came open. I don't think he had done enough yet to get hired away by just anyone. But the people at VCU knew and liked him already.
03-28-2017 03:33 PM
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I'm sorry to be a prick about this but I think in Corey's case, I wouldn't let him out of the scholarship if I was Rice. I suspect that won't happen but at least the other players did play some at Rice. Corey is 20, almost 21, and won't be able to play until 2018-19 if he follows the typical transfer procedure. But since he got hurt, he might be able to use this past season as a hardship rule, and be eligible by mid-semester next year I believe.

And I don't think that is fair to Rice. I would tell Douglas you're sitting out a year just like any other transfer and if you do, we'll let you out of the scholarship. But if you intend on playing next year, we're not letting you out of the scholarship. So either way, you're not playing unti 2018-19. Sorry but we expect players to at least have some sort of commitment to Rice when they sign a scholarship paper. That's what I would say if I was AD.

And by the way, I have nothing against Corey. He seemed to be a very nice, well-mannered young man the few times I talked to him. But a commitment is a commitment. I guess the only exception I might consider is if he has some type of family hardship I am unaware of.
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03-28-2017 03:36 PM
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(03-28-2017 03:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm sorry to be a prick about this but I think in Corey's case, I wouldn't let him out of the scholarship if I was Rice. I suspect that won't happen but at least the other players did play some at Rice. Corey is 20, almost 21, and won't be able to play until 2018-19 if he follows the typical transfer procedure. But since he got hurt, he might be able to use this past season as a hardship rule, and be eligible by mid-semester next year I believe.

And I don't think that is fair to Rice. I would tell Douglas you're sitting out a year just like any other transfer and if you do, we'll let you out of the scholarship. But if you intend on playing next year, we're not letting you out of the scholarship. So either way, you're not playing unti 2018-19. Sorry but we expect players to at least have some sort of commitment to Rice when they sign a scholarship paper. That's what I would say if I was AD.

And by the way, I have nothing against Corey. He seemed to be a very nice, well-mannered young man the few times I talked to him. But a commitment is a commitment. I guess the only exception I might consider is if he has some type of family hardship I am unaware of.

He'll assumably go the JuCo route for a year and then head back to D1 as a junior. Wouldn't need to sit out a year if he follows that path.
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03-28-2017 03:39 PM
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(03-28-2017 01:02 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  Anybody else having a little buyers remorse with Pera? Not that I think any of this is his fault, but I think the main draw of hiring him was keeping the team together. That isn't happening, so I wish we would've at least held interviews and done further due diligence rather than hiring him in 2 days. Maybe he would've turned out to have been the best candidate after a full interview process and it's a moot point, or maybe not. Would've liked to have seen it play out differently.

Can't totally fault our AD for handling it how he did, but wish we could have a do-over.

I think I said when he was hired that my priority would be to hire a coach that can build a program without relying on the current players... my assumption was that there was no-one Rice could hire that would keep some of the players from transferring if they were inclined to do so. The downside of taking your time is in the event that the players requested transfer prior to the hiring of a new coach.

It appears that Pera is very capable. I hope that the decision was made with the assumption that he may have to rebuild from scratch.
03-28-2017 04:05 PM
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(03-28-2017 12:45 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
Quote:It's not like he got enough minutes to showcase himself.

Might be why he wants to go.

(03-28-2017 03:11 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  The problem is we hired a coach good enough to get hired away after a few years.

You expect a good coach to move on, but not to leave devastation is his wake. Pera will have an almost complete rebuilding job.
03-28-2017 04:07 PM
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(03-28-2017 03:03 PM)Ranger Wrote:  This is the second time this has happened in four years. I wonder if the problem is something bigger, structural or systemic.

I hate to break the news, but we're in an absolutely terrible conference and have dismal fan support. We're in the minor leagues, and kids want a promotion.
03-28-2017 04:55 PM
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The fact that this keeps happening means that we have to start doing things differently. I know that's a "no duh" statement, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Administration/BOT keep going about their merry way . . .
03-28-2017 05:26 PM
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