True, Nashville just makes a lot more sense to be a regular first weekend site.

(03-28-2017 01:58 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:22 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:04 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 12:57 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  The NFL is the top draw, not doubt. It is great for a community (except St. Louis, Oakland, San Diego...lol). But the NFL gives a town eight home games. While the NBA and college basketball is almost seventy games to see and discuss. The Grizz out draw the Titans, or any other NFL team, in attendane...total numbers.

The price points for those NFL games are much higher than for most NBA games, almost double.

The 'total numbers' that matter. NFL and NBA are not even close. NBA vs NHL is a more appropriate discussion.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-nfl...2016-07-01

Top 10 sports leagues by revenue

National Football League (NFL): $13 billion
Major League Baseball (MLB): $9.5 billion
Premier League (English/Welsh football league): $5.3 billion
National Basketball Association (NBA): $4.8 billion
National Hockey League (NHL): $3.7 billion
Bundesliga (German football league): $2.8 billion
La Liga (Spanish football league): $2.2 billion
Serie A (Italian football league): $1.9 billion
Ligue 1 (France/Monaco football league): $1.5 billion
Nippon Professional Baseball (Japanese baseball league): $1.1 billion

Except those that post.

The article gave a good reason why each city hosted the respective tournament rounds and yet it degraded into Memphis vs Nashville. Who cares.

NBA/NFL have very little to do with the article

It has much to do with why hosting an NCAA regional is not as big a deal for Nashville as it is for Memphis.

(03-28-2017 02:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:58 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:22 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:04 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  The price points for those NFL games are much higher than for most NBA games, almost double.

The 'total numbers' that matter. NFL and NBA are not even close. NBA vs NHL is a more appropriate discussion.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-nfl...2016-07-01

Top 10 sports leagues by revenue

National Football League (NFL): $13 billion
Major League Baseball (MLB): $9.5 billion
Premier League (English/Welsh football league): $5.3 billion
National Basketball Association (NBA): $4.8 billion
National Hockey League (NHL): $3.7 billion
Bundesliga (German football league): $2.8 billion
La Liga (Spanish football league): $2.2 billion
Serie A (Italian football league): $1.9 billion
Ligue 1 (France/Monaco football league): $1.5 billion
Nippon Professional Baseball (Japanese baseball league): $1.1 billion

Except those that post.

The article gave a good reason why each city hosted the respective tournament rounds and yet it degraded into Memphis vs Nashville. Who cares.

NBA/NFL have very little to do with the article

It has much to do with why hosting an NCAA regional is not as big a deal for Nashville as it is for Memphis.

You're reaching.

There's a reason why they're quoting Ramsey in the article and it's not because it's not a big deal - it's because he's being asked why they didn't get the round memphis did. He's answering questions for people he works for. And his answers are logical and sound.

Do you live in Nashville? You sure are stretching to make this point.

(03-28-2017 02:10 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 02:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:58 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:22 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

Except those that post.

The article gave a good reason why each city hosted the respective tournament rounds and yet it degraded into Memphis vs Nashville. Who cares.

NBA/NFL have very little to do with the article

It has much to do with why hosting an NCAA regional is not as big a deal for Nashville as it is for Memphis.

You're reaching.

There's a reason why they're quoting Ramsey in the article and it's not because it's not a big deal - it's because he's being asked why they didn't get the round memphis did. He's answering questions for people he works for. And his answers are logical and sound.

Do you live in Nashville? You sure are stretching to make this point.

I do not live in Nashville. I grew up in Memphis, graduate of UofM, now in Atlanta. Living in the heart of SEC and ACC country offers me a different perspective than when I was in Memphis. Local talk radio and most sports fans in Atlanta view Nashville as more of a 'pro town' than Memphis. That is why I was pointing out the chance to host an NCAA regional is not as big a deal for Nashville as it is for Memphis. It keeps Memphis in the talk.

(03-28-2017 02:10 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 02:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:58 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 01:22 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

Except those that post.

The article gave a good reason why each city hosted the respective tournament rounds and yet it degraded into Memphis vs Nashville. Who cares.

NBA/NFL have very little to do with the article

It has much to do with why hosting an NCAA regional is not as big a deal for Nashville as it is for Memphis.

You're reaching.

There's a reason why they're quoting Ramsey in the article and it's not because it's not a big deal - it's because he's being asked why they didn't get the round memphis did. He's answering questions for people he works for. And his answers are logical and sound.

Do you live in Nashville? You sure are stretching to make this point.

Nashville to Memphis is a big stretch. Knoxville to Memphis---even bigger.

Memphis to NorCal - even huger.

Come on home, ST.

(03-28-2017 03:09 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Memphis to NorCal - even huger.

Come on home, ST.

he said with a smile

Nashville has had the SEC tournament several times now.
Memphis hosted it one time in the Pyramid.

SEC men's tournament is going to St Louis next year, and Tampa the following year.

I assume the CVB is not pushing hard to get the SEC Tourney?

Spelling It. It

FedEx Forum > Bridgetown Arena


It's not even close

(03-29-2017 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  FedEx Forum > Bridgetown Arena


It's not even close

Not so fast. You ever been to the luxury boxes at Bridgestone?

Very comparable facilities. NHL gave Bridgestone the all star game. Still waiting on that NBA all star game.

I've lived both places. I tell people at both places - it doesn't have to be us vs. them. We have a lot in common.

(03-29-2017 05:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  FedEx Forum > Bridgetown Arena


It's not even close

Not so fast. You ever been to the luxury boxes at Bridgestone?

Very comparable facilities. NHL gave Bridgestone the all star game. Still waiting on that NBA all star game.

I've lived both places. I tell people at both places - it doesn't have to be us vs. them. We have a lot in common.

Rednecks?

(03-29-2017 05:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  FedEx Forum > Bridgetown Arena


It's not even close

Not so fast. You ever been to the luxury boxes at Bridgestone?

Very comparable facilities. NHL gave Bridgestone the all star game. Still waiting on that NBA all star game.

I've lived both places. I tell people at both places - it doesn't have to be us vs. them. We have a lot in common.

No, no, no. Bridgestone is a dump compared to FEF. Aluminum seating. Ugh.

(03-28-2017 01:04 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 12:57 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 12:38 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Hosting sweet 16's and NBA basketball versus NFL team and NHL team. NFL wins hands down.

The NFL is the top draw, not doubt. It is great for a community (except St. Louis, Oakland, San Diego...lol). But the NFL gives a town eight home games. While the NBA and college basketball is almost seventy games to see and discuss. The Grizz out draw the Titans, or any other NFL team, in attendane...total numbers.

The price points for those NFL games are much higher than for most NBA games, almost double.

The 'total numbers' that matter. NFL and NBA are not even close. NBA vs NHL is a more appropriate discussion.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-nfl...2016-07-01

Top 10 sports leagues by revenue

National Football League (NFL): $13 billion
Major League Baseball (MLB): $9.5 billion
Premier League (English/Welsh football league): $5.3 billion
National Basketball Association (NBA): $4.8 billion
National Hockey League (NHL): $3.7 billion
Bundesliga (German football league): $2.8 billion
La Liga (Spanish football league): $2.2 billion
Serie A (Italian football league): $1.9 billion
Ligue 1 (France/Monaco football league): $1.5 billion
Nippon Professional Baseball (Japanese baseball league): $1.1 billion

The overwhelming majority of revenue from the NFL is derived from TV dollars, not attendance. You can talk all you want about price points, etc.., but the NFL is a TV-driven model.

The Titans play 8 home games a year and draw 70,000.

That's 560,000. Average ticket price around $200.

That's a total gate receipts/revenue of $112m.

$112m*32 teams is around $3.5 billion.

So, around a quarter of total NFL revenue is derived from attendance....meaning around 75% is due to TV contracts.

Grizz average around 16k*41 games=656,000 tickets.

656,000 Grizz tickets* $30 bucks = $19 million in ticket revenue

$19 million in ticket revenue*30 teams around $600 million.

$600 million out of $4.8 billion is actually a lower percentage of total revenue.

HOWEVER, the key here is that LOCAL TV contracts for the NBA and MLB are incredibly big. The Dodgers, for example, take in $200 million per year in LOCAL TV contracts and don't have to share that with anyone.

The Forum is a gem.

Bridgestone doesn't come close.

(03-29-2017 05:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  FedEx Forum > Bridgetown Arena


It's not even close

Not so fast. You ever been to the luxury boxes at Bridgestone?

Very comparable facilities. NHL gave Bridgestone the all star game. Still waiting on that NBA all star game.

I've lived both places. I tell people at both places - it doesn't have to be us vs. them. We have a lot in common.

I've been to Bridgestone

It's not in FEF's league

I love how you threw the "it's not about us vs them" right after you post all star game smack.

NHL? Lmao

they got the nhl all star game because they have the hotel capacity, not because of the arena

The NHL all star game was just a point to show it's not a dump. "We" tend to think FEF is so much above everything else. It's great. NBA may not appreciate it, but glad we do. "We" really don't have to dump on Bridgestone in order to elevate FEF.

Bridgestone has new seats. I'm guessing you haven't been since they changed them out. Didn't notice the material type, but they're very comfortable. The arena is nominated every year for "top arena in the world" - used to see it on Nashville news every year. Not sure what goes into that - probably ticket sales and events, of which they get a lot.

As for hotel capacity, downtown Nashville is lagging there - much like Memphis. So that's not got anything to do with the all-star games.

We both have great facilities. That has nothing to do with why they're not getting S16/E8 games.

(03-28-2017 12:57 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 12:38 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Hosting sweet 16's and NBA basketball versus NFL team and NHL team. NFL wins hands down.

The NFL is the top draw, not doubt. It is great for a community (except St. Louis, Oakland, San Diego...lol). But the NFL gives a town eight home games. While the NBA and college basketball is almost seventy games to see and discuss. The Grizz out draw the Titans, or any other NFL team, in attendane...total numbers.

Predators sold out every game this season and Bridgestone is a nice arena. With that said, Memphis is better for the later rounds because it's a basketball city.

(03-28-2017 02:01 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  True, Nashville just makes a lot more sense to be a regular first weekend site.

Yep, but Memphis is better for later rounds.