If DJ called AK, AK can talk to him. I believe that's the rule...someone check me on that.

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

(04-07-2017 03:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 01:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  Speaking of crawling into a bottle, what's Kennedy's address at ole piss? Might send him some Jack? I'm sure he's sick of mad dog.

Case of Strawberry Boones Farm should do it......

Good idea.

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Doesn't say he is calling the recruit...Likely doing the pre-ass kissing of the hangers on so it will easier to get to the recruit.

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yet, we have two days and multiple threads eviscerating Tubby over not contacting the kid...by the resident know-it-alls.

Mensa central on here, I tell ya'.

(04-07-2017 04:23 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yet, we have two days and multiple threads eviscerating Tubby over not contacting the kid...by the resident know-it-alls.

Mensa central on here, I tell ya'.

Wait a sec, amigo.

There are still ways around the phone call rule.

As the kid's father said in the article, Tubby was not aggressive and several schools reach out more.

You don't have to break rules to show interest.

Now, is the dad lying?

I have no idea.

But his own words in the article state that Tubby is not showing as much interest as other schools.

That's what makes this board so much "fun."

(04-07-2017 04:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:23 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yet, we have two days and multiple threads eviscerating Tubby over not contacting the kid...by the resident know-it-alls.

Mensa central on here, I tell ya'.

Wait a sec, amigo.

There are still ways around the phone call rule.

As the kid's father said in the article, Tubby was not aggressive and several schools reach out more.

You don't have to break rules to show interest.

Now, is the dad lying?

I have no idea.

But his own words in the article state that Tubby is not showing as much interest as other schools.

Ok Freund.

Maybe Tubby doesn't want the kid...for whatever reason? Maybe he's going to go hard after him, soon?

My point is that (for now) Tubby is the Head Coach and it's his choice. If he fails this coming season, then I'll come over to your side (minus the childish vitriol).

Sorry that my wait and see attitude has you so ruffled. Hope you get to feeling better, soon.

(04-07-2017 04:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:23 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yet, we have two days and multiple threads eviscerating Tubby over not contacting the kid...by the resident know-it-alls.

Mensa central on here, I tell ya'.

Wait a sec, amigo.

There are still ways around the phone call rule.

As the kid's father said in the article, Tubby was not aggressive and several schools reach out more.

You don't have to break rules to show interest.

Now, is the dad lying?

I have no idea.

But his own words in the article state that Tubby is not showing as much interest as other schools.

Ok Freund.

Maybe Tubby doesn't want the kid...for whatever reason? Maybe he's going to go hard after him, soon?

My point is that (for now) Tubby is the Head Coach and it's his choice. If he fails this coming season, then I'll come over to your side (minus the childish vitriol).

Sorry that my wait and see attitude has you so ruffled. Hope you get to feeling better, soon.

Not ruffled.

Just clarifying.

I don't have a side. I'd like Tubby to recruit certain players, but whatever at this point.

Time will certainly tell if he's making the right moves or not.

Should have hired Scott Drew. Baylor still ballin and they're in freaking Waco.

Caulkins should apologize every day for the rest of his life. We would be so much better off.

(04-07-2017 04:37 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Should have hired Scott Drew. Baylor still ballin and they're in freaking Waco.

Caulkins should apologize every day for the rest of his life. We would be so much better off.

Maybe you are unaware of this, but Calkins opinion of Drew is shared by (pretty much) everyone in the business. The fact that he wrote an article, had nothing to do with us not hiring him.

Drew was/is a high risk. I am certain our AD and President had the skinny on Scott. They chose not to go that route, for various reasons at the time.

(04-07-2017 04:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:23 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yet, we have two days and multiple threads eviscerating Tubby over not contacting the kid...by the resident know-it-alls.

Mensa central on here, I tell ya'.

Wait a sec, amigo.

There are still ways around the phone call rule.

As the kid's father said in the article, Tubby was not aggressive and several schools reach out more.

You don't have to break rules to show interest.

Now, is the dad lying?

I have no idea.

But his own words in the article state that Tubby is not showing as much interest as other schools.

Ok Freund.

Maybe Tubby doesn't want the kid...for whatever reason? Maybe he's going to go hard after him, soon?

My point is that (for now) Tubby is the Head Coach and it's his choice. If he fails this coming season, then I'll come over to your side (minus the childish vitriol).

Sorry that my wait and see attitude has you so ruffled. Hope you get to feeling better, soon.

If Tubby takes this team to the NIT I think he should be AAC coach of the year and if he has anything decent lined up for next year I would consider it building momentum.

(04-07-2017 04:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew was/is a high risk. I am certain our AD and President had the skinny on Scott. They chose not to go that route, for various reasons at the time.

Yet they are gone and he's still coaching (Sweet 16 this year).

You don't always have to tow the company line you know. The Porter hire and the last three years should tell you at least that UM leaders aren't always infallible and can make bad decisions.

(04-07-2017 04:44 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew was/is a high risk. I am certain our AD and President had the skinny on Scott. They chose not to go that route, for various reasons at the time.

Yet they are gone and he's still coaching (Sweet 16 this year).

You don't always have to tow the company line you know. The Porter hire and the last three years should tell you at least that UM leaders aren't always infallible and can make bad decisions.

Never said he wasn't a good coach. In fact, he is.

Just said his "reputation" precedes him. Calkins didn't print anything that was "news" to anyone in the business.

Whether or not or AD & President made the wrong call at the time, is conjecture. If he would have come here, he may have gotten caught and gotten us into BIG TIME problems. And, he might have won the National Title.

But, that's beside the point...in 2017.

(04-07-2017 03:35 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @mgiannotto

Interesting footnote to my DJ Jeffries story: Per NCAA rules, coaches can't call recruits until June 15 after soph year.

@mgiannotto

Essentially, Tubby Smith would be breaking NCAA rules by contacting DJ Jeffries. Per Jeffries' Dad, Andy Kennedy at Ole Miss calls a lot.

Great point, and you beat me to it. This jumped off the screen when I read the article earlier, too, yet it wasn't mentioned here until now. I had to re-read the CA note on the topic because I thought I was missing something.

Yeah, this took an unexpected turn, didn't it?

(04-07-2017 04:44 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew was/is a high risk. I am certain our AD and President had the skinny on Scott. They chose not to go that route, for various reasons at the time.

Yet they are gone and he's still coaching (Sweet 16 this year).

You don't always have to tow the company line you know. The Porter hire and the last three years should tell you at least that UM leaders aren't always infallible and can make bad decisions.

They didn't hire Drew because Lapides and Calkins flipped out on the idea.