We've been spoiled, most of our recent teams have had great shot blockers (Octavius, JJ, Ibrahima Thomas)

(04-12-2017 01:19 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 12:56 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 09:49 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 09:25 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 02:23 PM)Marcus Wrote:  Agreed. Brooks has some potential for sure, especially on the defensive end, but he doesn't look very skilled offensively. Good looking athlete who will be a good rebounder and shot blocker. But he probably has a rather low ceiling from an offensive standpoint.

Brooks has got to improve his rebounding and especially his shot blocking ability. I've never seen a guy with his height and length get so few shot blocks.

Umm, not sure if serious. He averaged 3.2 blocks per 40 minutes, Washington was 2nd on the team with 1.7.

I was serious but those stats certainly do correct my thought process from what my eyes saw during games. Comparing him to Washington is not a good comparison because no one one UC's team is a great shot blocker. At 3.2 that would place ranked roughly 50th in the nation. So while my perspective certainly has changed, I still think there's a ton of room for improvement considering his length.

He has to improve everywhere, there is no question about that. From what I saw of him I do think he at least has the "potential" to become a good rebounder and shot blocker. I don't see much of a ceiling though on the offensive end. He just doesn't possess much of an offensive skill set. Unfortunately it kind of seems that way with all the frontcourt guys that will be on the roster after next season. I don't see anyone that comes close to Clark or Washington talent wise.

A valid concern. Our frontline guys are usually athletic but take time to develop. We're going to need a heck of a recruiting class or some "ready now" guys to transfer in for the return to 5th/3rd. Otherwise that might be a long inaugural season.

I think Nysier actually showed a ton of talent last year. He can sprint up and down the court far better than both Clark and Washington. A good vertical athlete as well with great timing blocking shots. He also showed some skill with his back to the basket. I don't think anyone is expecting him to develop into a 15 a game scorer, but I don't see why he can't score 8 a game with solid rebounding and very good rim protection.

The four is the bigger problem in my mind. Either Scott needs to show a ton of improvement, Mick needs to bring in a transfer or juco, or we will probably play a ton of 4 wing lineups with Broome, Cumberland, Williams and Evans. But that is still two years away. A ton can happen between now and then.

I thought Nysier looked good on O for a frosh. His biggest problem was committing silly fouls. Plus he seems to have a bit of a temper.

I like Nysier a lot. I don't think he will ever average 15 ppg, but I think he is already playing at a similar level to Cheikh Mbodji with the potential to be much better.

(04-12-2017 10:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I like Nysier a lot. I don't think he will ever average 15 ppg, but I think he is already playing at a similar level to Cheikh Mbodji with the potential to be much better.

He can get to 10 ppg min. on offensive put backs and high percentage FT shooting. if we ever get a PG who can turn the corner on the pick and roll i could see him getting to 12 - 15 ppg. if he can hit a mid-range and do a pick and pop or takes some quantum leaps in developing his post game, i can see him getting to 15 ppg as well. Not impossible but he'll have to make significant progress.

(04-13-2017 08:52 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 10:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I like Nysier a lot. I don't think he will ever average 15 ppg, but I think he is already playing at a similar level to Cheikh Mbodji with the potential to be much better.

He can get to 10 ppg min. on offensive put backs and high percentage FT shooting. if we ever get a PG who can turn the corner on the pick and roll i could see him getting to 12 - 15 ppg. if he can hit a mid-range and do a pick and pop or takes some quantum leaps in developing his post game, i can see him getting to 15 ppg as well. Not impossible but he'll have to make significant progress.

I'd be shocked if he can ever average 15ppg. That is 5 pts more than Clark has averaged to date and Gary is more skilled offensively. There will be games were he might score 15, but I think over a season 10 will be his ceiling (if he even gets there).

(04-13-2017 09:29 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:52 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 10:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I like Nysier a lot. I don't think he will ever average 15 ppg, but I think he is already playing at a similar level to Cheikh Mbodji with the potential to be much better.

He can get to 10 ppg min. on offensive put backs and high percentage FT shooting. if we ever get a PG who can turn the corner on the pick and roll i could see him getting to 12 - 15 ppg. if he can hit a mid-range and do a pick and pop or takes some quantum leaps in developing his post game, i can see him getting to 15 ppg as well. Not impossible but he'll have to make significant progress.

I'd be shocked if he can ever average 15ppg. That is 5 pts more than Clark has averaged to date and Gary is more skilled offensively. There will be games were he might score 15, but I think over a season 10 will be his ceiling (if he even gets there).

i am a fan of Clark but i'm less high on him then most on here. Clark may be more skilled but Brooks is bigger and that gives him a chance to outkick Clark's production. We'll see what happens between year 1 - 2.

As an aside, if Cane Broome is as advertised speed wise, it will benefit all our bigs. Troy was unable to turn the corner on a pick and roll without a running start. if Cane can run an effective pick and roll, KW, Clark and Brooks (maybe even Scott) should benefit immensely.

I don't feel like making a new thread, but walked by Jacob Evans. He's currently using a crutch. Don't know anything more.

we at least need somebody to be at yancy's level with this potent backcourt to thrive. i'm talking after gary and kyle presumably graduate. i'm not holding out hope the african and nysier are anything more than solid bench players

what's the word on that huskie jflight was talkin?

gonna visit miami apparently

(04-14-2017 11:03 AM)MercerCo_BearCat Wrote:  I don't feel like making a new thread, but walked by Jacob Evans. He's currently using a crutch. Don't know anything more.

He had a bad foot coming into last season so i would guess he may have had some procedure to fix it?

(04-12-2017 08:03 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  I think Nysier actually showed a ton of talent last year. He can sprint up and down the court far better than both Clark and Washington. A good vertical athlete as well with great timing blocking shots. He also showed some skill with his back to the basket. I don't think anyone is expecting him to develop into a 15 a game scorer, but I don't see why he can't score 8 a game with solid rebounding and very good rim protection.

The four is the bigger problem in my mind. Either Scott needs to show a ton of improvement, Mick needs to bring in a transfer or juco, or we will probably play a ton of 4 wing lineups with Broome, Cumberland, Williams and Evans. But that is still two years away. A ton can happen between now and then.

JFlight

always spot on

You need to post more often

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Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg tells me his top five are Xavier, Arizona State, Illinois, Cincinnati and NC State. Will set visits soon.

Probably ends up at Xavier bc that is our luck.

Note that Carlton Bragg is from Cleveland. From an article by the Kansas City Star:

Quote:Graves said Bragg could transfer to a school close to home.

“That’s a possibility,” he said. “There’s nothing like coming home and being with family and friends, getting a home-cooked meal. That’s a possibility.”

As far as off-the-court issues, there was a violent incident in which Carlton was later proven to be the victim, so that wasn't an issue. Carlton's only issue was possession of marijuana paraphernalia... which is not a concern to most rational people.

I would be thrilled to have more 5-star talent in this program, especially at PF after Gary Clark graduates... hopefully Mick does as well and reels Carlton in.

Bragg would be big time. Would have to think the muskies are our biggest competition here.

(04-19-2017 08:31 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Probably ends up at Xavier bc that is our luck.

I don't necessarily disagree. But I don't think it has anything to do with luck. Mack has been out-recruiting UC for several years now and it shows on the court.

Sadly, some have accepted being beaten by X in recruiting, on the basketball floor and in the court of public opinion as the new normal. When I see what Fickell has done in recent weeks--beating the best brand names in college football for prized recruits, it gives me pause to wonder why our basketball program, with a much richer heritage, isn't bringing in a couple of "ready now" recruits every year? And I'll say right up front, Cumberland is great but it will take more than one game changer per class to take the program another step higher.

(04-20-2017 07:20 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 08:31 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Probably ends up at Xavier bc that is our luck.

I don't necessarily disagree. But I don't think it has anything to do with luck. Mack has been out-recruiting UC for several years now and it shows on the court.

Sadly, some have accepted being beaten by X in recruiting, on the basketball floor and in the court of public opinion as the new normal. When I see what Fickell has done in recent weeks--beating the best brand names in college football for prized recruits, it gives me pause to wonder why our basketball program, with a much richer heritage, isn't bringing in a couple of "ready now" recruits every year? And I'll say right up front, Cumberland is great but it will take more than one game changer per class to take the program another step higher.

UC had a better team this past season and has a better roster for 2017-2018.