(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 07:52 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 05:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 11:56 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  A) THE KIDS! oh noes! They're coming FOR THE KIDS. Got some pearls I can clutch for this hyperbole?


B) The butt hurt is real.

Anyone that really cares about keeping drugs out of the hands of kids should be in favor of controlled legalization.

Damn, this is one of the most naive statements I've ever read. I'm for legalization but if you think kids won't get their hands on it you don't have a clue. This belief is exactly like assuming underagers can't get alcohol.

No one said that it would eliminate it. I would though put a giant dent in street dealers and reduce violence. There is a reason bootleggers are few and far between now. I talking about a reduction in harm...not a perfect solution.

I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

Squashing the black market alone is giant reduction in harm. Also bringing in substances to the marketplace introduces quality control, purity and dosage information to the equation. The violence associated with the black market involves the risk it takes to bring the product to streets. Elimination of risk reduces the violence.

Will say, with the laws the way they have been, I was able to get my hands on weed as early as 12. Course I didn't start smoking til 16. So if you're worried about kids having easier access to marijuana, well, they already have easy access.

(03-27-2017 11:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 07:52 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 05:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Anyone that really cares about keeping drugs out of the hands of kids should be in favor of controlled legalization.

Damn, this is one of the most naive statements I've ever read. I'm for legalization but if you think kids won't get their hands on it you don't have a clue. This belief is exactly like assuming underagers can't get alcohol.

No one said that it would eliminate it. I would though put a giant dent in street dealers and reduce violence. There is a reason bootleggers are few and far between now. I talking about a reduction in harm...not a perfect solution.

I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

...or grow your own

In a heart beat...and.... make my own candy.

wouldn't the black market became absolutely horrifying if pot (arguably the biggest item) were legal here?

(03-27-2017 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 07:52 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Damn, this is one of the most naive statements I've ever read. I'm for legalization but if you think kids won't get their hands on it you don't have a clue. This belief is exactly like assuming underagers can't get alcohol.

No one said that it would eliminate it. I would though put a giant dent in street dealers and reduce violence. There is a reason bootleggers are few and far between now. I talking about a reduction in harm...not a perfect solution.

I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

...or grow your own

In a heart beat...and.... make my own candy.

Why wait?

(03-27-2017 11:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:34 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 07:03 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ... because, you know, it can't possibly have medicinal benefit right?

Welllllllllll that awkward moment when one of them gets DEA approval for synthetic marijuana.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...66e1945c29

Historically the big scope of the lobbying against marijuana has been about strengthening a businesses position with competing materials.

Of course it was. Randolph Hearst was directly behind the push to criminalize Cannabis and Hemp because of his timber interests. It was about squashing competiton...nothing else.

Whoa. Fake news way back then. Say it ain't so. Yellar journalism?

(03-27-2017 12:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No one said that it would eliminate it. I would though put a giant dent in street dealers and reduce violence. There is a reason bootleggers are few and far between now. I talking about a reduction in harm...not a perfect solution.

I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

...or grow your own

In a heart beat...and.... make my own candy.

Why wait?

Fear.

(03-27-2017 12:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No one said that it would eliminate it. I would though put a giant dent in street dealers and reduce violence. There is a reason bootleggers are few and far between now. I talking about a reduction in harm...not a perfect solution.

I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

...or grow your own

In a heart beat...and.... make my own candy.

Why wait?

even I wouldn't risk that in the 'sip.....much easier/safer to play it differently.....

(03-27-2017 06:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:31 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I agree. Out of the hands of the black market means that less people get intro'd to a harder drug from your regular dealer. Then you just have to worry about your doctor.

...or grow your own

In a heart beat...and.... make my own candy.

Why wait?

Fear.

#neighbors

#odor

(03-27-2017 12:44 PM)Lush Wrote:  wouldn't the black market became absolutely horrifying if pot (arguably the biggest item) were legal here?

not if you could legally grow it.....

as a simple analogous example, vegas no longer buries people in the desert,....

'sin enjoyment' cannot be stopped....however, it can be legislated in a manner where the majority benefits.....increased education also falls into this category (see the tobacco industry)

IMO, this is where the conservative right really began screwing this country with Nixon's war on drugs.....what a fk'n idiot that guy was....

(03-27-2017 06:45 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:44 PM)Lush Wrote:  wouldn't the black market became absolutely horrifying if pot (arguably the biggest item) were legal here?

not if you could legally grow it.....
as a simple analogous example, vegas no longer buries people in the desert,....
'sin enjoyment' cannot be stopped....however, it can be legislated in a manner where the majority benefits.....increased education also falls into this category (see the tobacco industry)
IMO, this is where the conservative right really began screwing this country with Nixon's war on drugs.....what a fk'n idiot that guy was....

That was the neocon right, not the conservative right.

(03-27-2017 08:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 06:45 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:44 PM)Lush Wrote:  wouldn't the black market became absolutely horrifying if pot (arguably the biggest item) were legal here?

not if you could legally grow it.....
as a simple analogous example, vegas no longer buries people in the desert,....
'sin enjoyment' cannot be stopped....however, it can be legislated in a manner where the majority benefits.....increased education also falls into this category (see the tobacco industry)
IMO, this is where the conservative right really began screwing this country with Nixon's war on drugs.....what a fk'n idiot that guy was....

That was the neocon right, not the conservative right.

ummmkay....doesn't change the premise of policy....

the conservative right would've burned 'em at the stake watching reefer madness back in that day....

#laughatsemantics

that is arguably the biggest policy mistake made in my lifetime (until 0'bummer-care)

edit: to argue the point further, the strain that it has laid upon this nation relative to incarceration is mindnumbingly insane...it wouldn't matter what 'tag' was applied to the policy maker....

o canada, o canada.......o cannabis I love thee...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-2018.html

Quote:Canadians should be able to smoke marijuana legally on July 1, 2018, putting Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on the path to accomplishing one of his most ambitious goals.
The legislation to legalize recreational marijuana will be announced the week of April 10th and it should become law by July next year, said a senior government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to lack of authorization to discuss the upcoming legislation

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/canada-to...eport.html

Quote:Canadians will also be free to grow up to four marijuana plants per household.

(03-28-2017 04:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  o canada, o canada.......o cannabis I love thee...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-2018.html

Quote:Canadians should be able to smoke marijuana legally on July 1, 2018, putting Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on the path to accomplishing one of his most ambitious goals.
The legislation to legalize recreational marijuana will be announced the week of April 10th and it should become law by July next year, said a senior government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to lack of authorization to discuss the upcoming legislation

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/canada-to...eport.html

Quote:Canadians will also be free to grow up to four marijuana plants per household.

man that's awesome. too bad they've been cucked on immigration and free speech.

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(03-28-2017 09:12 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-28-2017 04:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  o canada, o canada.......o cannabis I love thee...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-2018.html

Quote:Canadians should be able to smoke marijuana legally on July 1, 2018, putting Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on the path to accomplishing one of his most ambitious goals.
The legislation to legalize recreational marijuana will be announced the week of April 10th and it should become law by July next year, said a senior government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to lack of authorization to discuss the upcoming legislation

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/canada-to...eport.html

Quote:Canadians will also be free to grow up to four marijuana plants per household.

man that's awesome. too bad they've been cucked on immigration and free speech.

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I'm headed to costa if this country's bs goes belly up in a decade and I'm still breathing....better fishing, climate, cheaper women, and cannabis is easily obtainable....hell, you couldn't pay me to move north of the free state of jones....