(03-26-2017 06:52 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 11:58 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 10:48 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Mature enough? Give the kid break we have seen nothing regarding his decision making ability. Arm strength.? That's a different story.

Hall has not been around the team much at all until tuesday. He has been dealing with some non football issues. So i would say he is a long way from compeating for a QB1 spot. Ryan is our guy at this point. But i love the New look running attack #unbalanced edge attack

Good to hear about the run game, will really play in nice with Huff and Jones who both have big play ability IMO. Hearing Graham is the guy already is not good for next season.

So you are assuming that Graham has already beaten Santa out for the starting position?

There have only been 4 spring practices, and Maddie was slated to be the #1 for all but one of those practices. Carey was very specific in the Tribune article that Santa and Graham, as of now, are battling for the starting role. A starter will likely not be named until weeks before the first game.

(03-26-2017 07:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 06:52 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 11:58 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 10:48 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Mature enough? Give the kid break we have seen nothing regarding his decision making ability. Arm strength.? That's a different story.

Hall has not been around the team much at all until tuesday. He has been dealing with some non football issues. So i would say he is a long way from compeating for a QB1 spot. Ryan is our guy at this point. But i love the New look running attack #unbalanced edge attack

Good to hear about the run game, will really play in nice with Huff and Jones who both have big play ability IMO. Hearing Graham is the guy already is not good for next season.

So you are assuming that Graham has already beaten Santa out for the starting position?

There have only been 4 spring practices, and Maddie was slated to the #1 for all but one of those practices. Carey was very specific in the Tribune article that Santa and Graham, as of now, are battling for the starting role. A starter will likely not be named until weeks before the first game.

Omg what I should have said is from what a few of the players have shated with me is Ryan is and should be taking reps as the starter and looks to be cutrently the guy the coaches treat as the number 1 and they say he is the best guy they have. Just like a year ago i said that the guys i talk to said Maddie should have been the man as soon as Drew went down.

Again all i do is tell you what i hear from the players i know so if u want to argue and dispute what i share thats cool its not my opinion it is that of a small group of players. So if u have better insight than that of some of the players please tell me what is REALLY going on lol

If Graham ends up our starter on day one I hope it's because he's been working his butt off and got night and day better. I do know from following Santa on twitter that he's been training with Chandler other top D1 quarterbacks, so hopefully the offseason work he put in will pay off.Im rooting for Santa or #burntheshirt.

(03-26-2017 08:12 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 07:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 06:52 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 11:58 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 10:48 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  Hall has not been around the team much at all until tuesday. He has been dealing with some non football issues. So i would say he is a long way from compeating for a QB1 spot. Ryan is our guy at this point. But i love the New look running attack #unbalanced edge attack

Good to hear about the run game, will really play in nice with Huff and Jones who both have big play ability IMO. Hearing Graham is the guy already is not good for next season.

So you are assuming that Graham has already beaten Santa out for the starting position?

There have only been 4 spring practices, and Maddie was slated to the #1 for all but one of those practices. Carey was very specific in the Tribune article that Santa and Graham, as of now, are battling for the starting role. A starter will likely not be named until weeks before the first game.

Omg what I should have said is from what a few of the players have shated with me is Ryan is and should be taking reps as the starter and looks to be cutrently the guy the coaches treat as the number 1 and they say he is the best guy they have. Just like a year ago i said that the guys i talk to said Maddie should have been the man as soon as Drew went down.

Again all i do is tell you what i hear from the players i know so if u want to argue and dispute what i share thats cool its not my opinion it is that of a small group of players. So if u have better insight than that of some of the players please tell me what is REALLY going on lol

Stop being so defensive. I read Djud's response to be - there's plenty of time for a competition to determine the best qb. Not - Randy's wrong the tribune said its Santa and Graham. No need to go into the campaign of youre all doubting me again. Many fans will be very disappointed if Graham is the starter. So they're going to say things that opposes the very idea itself.

Nice comments by Carey.

Not one QB has done more than the bare minimum to deserve to be the front runner/only deserving candidates to be the starter. I guess everyone else should just be happy to be third string, be on the team vs. contending for the starting position. Graham may be a tough kid, but he is not a top tier MAC qb. Sorry. He and Santa do not appear to have the ability to run this offense. And if Hall is not in the picture, I really hope he has explained this to him and said no matter what you are being redshirted. I don't want 2 qb to go down,or can't prove they are worth a dime and then we turn to him ala Maddie after wasting 1/2 a yr +. And I guess if I am anyone else I need to determine if I really want to stay there just for the scholarship and education.

I have a feeling another strange trip with Captain Carey at the helm.

They just completed the first padded practice of SPRING ball. Carey was quoted as saying they haven't decided if Hall will redshirt or not. If hall doesn't redshirt, he'll play at some point.

(03-26-2017 10:29 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  Nice comments by Carey.

Not one QB has done more than the bare minimum to deserve to be the front runner/only deserving candidates to be the starter. I guess everyone else should just be happy to be third string, be on the team vs. contending for the starting position. Graham may be a tough kid, but he is not a top tier MAC qb. Sorry. He and Santa do not appear to have the ability to run this offense. And if Hall is not in the picture, I really hope he has explained this to him and said no matter what you are being redshirted. I don't want 2 qb to go down,or can't prove they are worth a dime and then we turn to him ala Maddie after wasting 1/2 a yr +. And I guess if I am anyone else I need to determine if I really want to stay there just for the scholarship and education.

I have a feeling another strange trip with Captain Carey at the helm.

"Santa does not appear to have the ability to run this offense"...Again I would ask the same question....What, in 6 quarters of collegiate football, would Santa had to do to change this perception? He won two games; in his first action he gained nearly 100 yards rushing playing little more than half a game; and were it not for a dropped 50 yard, perfectly thrown pass, would have passed for over 300 yards in his first start. He may suck or he may be extraordinary...but in his very limited body of work it is difficult for me to comprehend how we can reach such a conclusion.

Also, if Hall is indeed the guy...the future of the program, you can make aneven stronger argument for him red shirting this season.

So Randy, with all the crap news for athletics lately, any positive good news we can run with for football?

(03-26-2017 10:31 AM)7 Wrote:  They just completed the first padded practice of SPRING ball. Carey was quoted as saying they haven't decided if Hall will redshirt or not. If hall doesn't redshirt, he'll play at some point.

Hmmm...I have reread that that last sentece a couple times...and you are 100% correct! If Hall doesn't redshirt, it's because he has played at some point.

(03-26-2017 11:16 AM)Djud Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 10:31 AM)7 Wrote:  They just completed the first padded practice of SPRING ball. Carey was quoted as saying they haven't decided if Hall will redshirt or not. If hall doesn't redshirt, he'll play at some point.

Hmmm...I have reread that that last sentece a couple times...and you are 100% correct! If Hall doesn't redshirt, it's because he has played at some point.

What I'm saying is, they're not going to burn his redshirt for him to spend most of the year sitting. With Boston College and Nebraska OOC, it would be insane to start him early on in the season. I can absolutely see him sitting and watching OOC, and in the second half of the season becoming the starter.

I still have some hope for Santa, so I hope he's the guy for Week 1. Graham does nothing for me at this point.

Our bad QB play last year starting to get some coverage from draft scouts/bloggers as they watch tape on Golladay...


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The one thing that is night and day compared between Santa and Graham is arm strength. Graham kinda just lofts the balls up there and prays it gets there, where I think Santa could really spread the field. I'd imagine training all of season with some confidence, it has only gotten better. I just can't imagine Graham improving much at all where he should be starting over Santa, but a lot of stuff Carey does, doesn't make sense. Although this year I think he knows he's coaching for his job or he's gone.

Unless we've changed the offense, we need a QB that can run. Graham can't run effectively. Santa can. All Santa has to do is match the mediocre passing ability that Graham currently has and that would make him the better option.

(03-26-2017 01:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Unless we've changed the offense, we need a QB that can run. Graham can't run effectively. Santa can. All Santa has to do is match the mediocre passing ability that Graham currently has and that would make him the better option.

Valid points, completely agree. There is one thing that Graham is better than any other QB option (and this would have included Maddie); his knowledge/command of the offense. His mistakes are far more physical than mental; this may be a real plus to the coaching staff.

(03-26-2017 01:46 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 01:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Unless we've changed the offense, we need a QB that can run. Graham can't run effectively. Santa can. All Santa has to do is match the mediocre passing ability that Graham currently has and that would make him the better option.

Valid points, completely agree. There is one thing that Graham is better than any other QB option (and this would have included Maddie); his knowledge/command of the offense. His mistakes are far more physical than mental; this may be a real plus to the coaching staff.

I too hope Santa can win the job and Hall redshirts we will see

(03-26-2017 01:46 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 01:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Unless we've changed the offense, we need a QB that can run. Graham can't run effectively. Santa can. All Santa has to do is match the mediocre passing ability that Graham currently has and that would make him the better option.

Valid points, completely agree. There is one thing that Graham is better than any other QB option (and this would have included Maddie); his knowledge/command of the offense. His mistakes are far more physical than mental; this may be a real plus to the coaching staff.

While that may be true, we better have 6 QBs then, because the average survival time for a QB who is not named Jordan Lynch is about 1.8 games.

Rumor has it that Graham looked pretty good during this past weeks practices and Santa didn't throw real well at all. Maybe Randy knows what he is talking about. Time will tell. Still have this feeling Graham has turned the corner and will have a very good year.

Santa didn't throw well? Shocking. Absolutely Shocking.

(03-26-2017 08:57 PM)LVHuskies99 Wrote:  Rumor has it that Graham looked pretty good during this past weeks practices and Santa didn't throw real well at all. Maybe Randy knows what he is talking about. Time will tell. Still have this feeling Graham has turned the corner and will have a very good year.

Go back and read comments from fall ball last year. Graham looking great was a talking point then, too.

(03-26-2017 08:57 PM)LVHuskies99 Wrote:  Rumor has it that Graham looked pretty good during this past weeks practices and Santa didn't throw real well at all. Maybe Randy knows what he is talking about. Time will tell. Still have this feeling Graham has turned the corner and will have a very good year.

It would be one of the biggest miracle turnarounds any college QB has ever demonstrated then. Graham is wildly inaccurate. I don't know how that gets fixed in an offseason.