And to further support my assertions in this thread, here are a few of the leading headlines after the 9-11 Commission Report was released. I think it's safe to assume that many libs, once they've seen a headline that supports their belief, don't bother reading further.

For example:

From the Washington Post, 17 June 2004

Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed

Yet in the same article we find this comment which basically destroys the meaning of the headline:

Quote:But the report of the commission's staff, based on its access to all relevant classified information, said that there had been contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda but no cooperation.

Here's another, this one from NBCNews dated 16 June 2004

9-11 Panel Sees No Link Between Iraq, al-Qaida

Same headline basically but then this in the text:

Quote:The report said that bin Laden explored possible cooperation with Saddam at the urging of allies in Sudan eager to protect their own ties to Iraq, even though the al-Qaida leader had previously provided support for “anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.”

Even Fox News got in on the same lame action, 16 June 2004

9/11 Panel: No Evidence of Al Qaeda-Iraq Link

And, of course, if you bothered to read the article you'd see this:

Quote:Bin Laden made overtures to Saddam for assistance, the commission said in the staff report, as he did with leaders in Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan and elsewhere as he sought to build an Islamic army.

While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan (search) to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

Now, I don't know about you dinging swicks, but if a government is receiving reps of a terrorist organization in their country, and the same government is then sending its reps to meet with the leader of a known terror organization on his home turf, then THERE ARE LINKS, no?

And if that's not enough, how about this mental exercise. Where ever in the print it says Saddam, or Iraq, etc, insert Trump, and where ever it says bin Laden, or al-Qaida, insert Russian officials.

What would you libs have to say about that?

Remember when Republicans believe that OBL and Iraq had secret meeting in Prague.

Good times.

C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

(03-27-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

And in typical Fitbud fashion, we'd have another Fitfail.

(03-27-2017 11:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

And in typical Fitbud fashion, we'd have another Fitfail.

EDIT Removed...remembered it was an AUP violation to focus on a poster.

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Short memory you have there RWT.

The reason the MSM used that particular headline over and over was because at the time of the report's release, Bush was up to his ass in alligators in Iraq and one of the reasons he sighted for the need to attack Saddam was his prior links to al-Qaida.

Wouldn't it have been much more simple and acurrate for the headlines to have read, Senate Report Finds No Connection Between Saddam & 9-11 Attacks?

(03-27-2017 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

And in typical Fitbud fashion, we'd have another Fitfail.

EDIT Removed...remembered it was an AUP violation to focus on a poster.

Then report me Nancy.

(03-27-2017 12:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

And in typical Fitbud fashion, we'd have another Fitfail.

EDIT Removed...remembered it was an AUP violation to focus on a poster.

Then report me Nancy.

(03-27-2017 12:01 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Short memory you have there RWT.

The reason the MSM used that particular headline over and over was because at the time of the report's release, Bush was up to his ass in alligators in Iraq and one of the reasons he sighted for the need to attack Saddam was his prior links to al-Qaida.

Wouldn't it have been much more simple and acurrate for the headlines to have read, Senate Report Finds No Connection Between Saddam & 9-11 Attacks?

They shouldn't have to. It's plain as day.

(03-27-2017 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:01 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Short memory you have there RWT.

The reason the MSM used that particular headline over and over was because at the time of the report's release, Bush was up to his ass in alligators in Iraq and one of the reasons he sighted for the need to attack Saddam was his prior links to al-Qaida.

Wouldn't it have been much more simple and acurrate for the headlines to have read, Senate Report Finds No Connection Between Saddam & 9-11 Attacks?

They shouldn't have to. It's plain as day.

And yet your knee-jerk reaction to my original assertion was that there were not links between Saddam and al-Qaida. Mach's was as well.

Go figure.

BTW, did you try the mental exercise I suggested, inserting Trump for Saddam and Russian officials for al-Qaida, and then trying to explain to your liberal buds that there were no links or connections found?

(03-27-2017 03:37 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:01 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Short memory you have there RWT.

The reason the MSM used that particular headline over and over was because at the time of the report's release, Bush was up to his ass in alligators in Iraq and one of the reasons he sighted for the need to attack Saddam was his prior links to al-Qaida.

Wouldn't it have been much more simple and acurrate for the headlines to have read, Senate Report Finds No Connection Between Saddam & 9-11 Attacks?

They shouldn't have to. It's plain as day.

And yet your knee-jerk reaction to my original assertion was that there were not links between Saddam and al-Qaida. Mach's was as well.

Go figure.

Because it made perfect sense since 9/11 was brought up that you were talking about a connection in regards to the attacks...the same thing the commission determined.

It's not really that big of deal...let's move on.

(03-27-2017 03:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 03:37 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 12:01 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Short memory you have there RWT.

The reason the MSM used that particular headline over and over was because at the time of the report's release, Bush was up to his ass in alligators in Iraq and one of the reasons he sighted for the need to attack Saddam was his prior links to al-Qaida.

Wouldn't it have been much more simple and acurrate for the headlines to have read, Senate Report Finds No Connection Between Saddam & 9-11 Attacks?

They shouldn't have to. It's plain as day.

And yet your knee-jerk reaction to my original assertion was that there were not links between Saddam and al-Qaida. Mach's was as well.

Go figure.

Because it made perfect sense since 9/11 was brought up that you were talking about a connection in regards to the attacks...the same thing the commission determined.

It's not really that big of deal...let's move on.

Only if you try my mental exercise and explain to us here how there were no links or connections.

No exercise needed, there were no links between Saddam and Bin Laden/AQ in relation to the 9/11 attack. PERIOD.

(03-27-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  C'mon Tech...the point of the 9/11 commission report was to see who was responsible for 9/11 and what we could to to prevent another attack.

THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

That's the story and what the headlines and Americans are talking about when they say there was no link between Saddam and Bin Laden, ONLY related to the 9/11 attack!

Yes...the report talked about that one thing you cited....an incidental occurrence that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

If you took a poll of republicans today, I bet 75% would still say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

Source for that?

And No, that wasn't the entire point of the 9-11 Commission report. If any of you had actually read the thing you'd know that. It was also to delve into the failings that led to 9-11. What was missed? By whom? Where were the links that were missed and how do we (they) do a better job of connecting them in the future to avoid the NEXT 9-11. Who were the players in this whole global terrorism thing and who are they working with, collaborating with and even conspiring with?

Did Hussien help buy the box cutters and teach the asssholes how to fly but not land? No, of course not. Was there repeated contact between bin laden, AQ, and the Iraqi regime? Most definitely.