Quote:The real scandal, which the media regard as a diversion from the primary target, Trump, is that a Deep State conspiracy to bring down his presidency seems to have been put in place by Obamaites, and perhaps approved by Obama himself.

Consider. On Jan. 12, David Ignatius of the Washington Post wrote,

“According to a senior U.S. government official, (Gen. Michael) Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials … What did Flynn say?”

Now, on Dec. 29, Flynn, national security adviser-designate, was not only doing his job calling the ambassador, he was a private citizen.

Why was he unmasked by U.S. intelligence?

Who is this “senior official” who dropped the dime on him? Could this official have known how many times Flynn spoke to Kislyak, yet not known what was said on the calls?

In today’s Wall Street Journal, Dan Henninger points anew to a story in The New York Times of March 1 that began:

“In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Trump and Russians — across the government.”

“This is what they did,” wrote Henninger, quoting the Times:

“At intelligence agencies, there was a push to process as much raw intelligence as possible into analyses, and to keep the reports at a relatively low classification level to ensure as wide a readership as possible across the government — and, in some cases, among European allies.”

For what benign purpose would U.S. intelligence agents spread secrets damaging to their own president — to foreign regimes? Is this not disloyalty? Is this not sedition?

http://buchanan.org/blog/obama-plot-sabo...ump-126711

Once Obby made it clear he would not reach across the aisle and attempt to gain at least some Republican support for his programs, Republicans adopted an obstructionist strategy. Dims will knee jerk McConnell's statement about denying Obbie a second term but that was after the vainglorious Obbu made his famous "we won" comment.

Yet McConnell's overtures were consistent with our American way, ie. he was threatening Obbuwobu at the ballot box.

Obbacca on the other hand, has led an illegal and unethical attempt to subvert our system that has served our country for over 240 years.

Supporters of the Dums should be ashamed of themselves.

(03-24-2017 08:02 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  Once Obby made it clear he would not reach across the aisle and attempt to gain at least some Republican support for his programs, Republicans adopted an obstructionist strategy. Dims will knee jerk McConnell's statement about denying Obbie a second term but that was after the vainglorious Obbu made his famous "we won" comment.

Yet McConnell's overtures were consistent with our American way, ie. he was threatening Obbuwobu at the ballot box.

Obbacca on the other hand, has led an illegal and unethical attempt to subvert our system that has served our country for over 240 years.

Supporters of the Dums should be ashamed of themselves.

Can you explain that post in English?

(03-24-2017 08:08 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 08:02 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  Once Obby made it clear he would not reach across the aisle and attempt to gain at least some Republican support for his programs, Republicans adopted an obstructionist strategy. Dims will knee jerk McConnell's statement about denying Obbie a second term but that was after the vainglorious Obbu made his famous "we won" comment.

Yet McConnell's overtures were consistent with our American way, ie. he was threatening Obbuwobu at the ballot box.

Obbacca on the other hand, has led an illegal and unethical attempt to subvert our system that has served our country for over 240 years.

Supporters of the Dums should be ashamed of themselves.

Can you explain that post in English?

Republicans worked within the laws, the Democrats subvert the laws.

We'll probably find out that ome Trump people were working with the Russians and the Obama people found out by acting like they were the Stasi.

Maybe they all go to jail.

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(03-24-2017 08:20 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 08:08 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 08:02 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  Once Obby made it clear he would not reach across the aisle and attempt to gain at least some Republican support for his programs, Republicans adopted an obstructionist strategy. Dims will knee jerk McConnell's statement about denying Obbie a second term but that was after the vainglorious Obbu made his famous "we won" comment.

Yet McConnell's overtures were consistent with our American way, ie. he was threatening Obbuwobu at the ballot box.

Obbacca on the other hand, has led an illegal and unethical attempt to subvert our system that has served our country for over 240 years.

Supporters of the Dums should be ashamed of themselves.

Can you explain that post in English?

Republicans worked within the laws, the Democrats subvert the laws.

Isn't that generally the case these days?

Oh how I love the twisting like a pretzel.

The same people that complained for years that Obama blamed Bush for everything now are pointing the finger at Obama.


Oh the hypocrisy.

(03-24-2017 10:32 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Oh how I love the twisting like a pretzel.

The same people that complained for years that Obama blamed Bush for everything now are pointing the finger at Obama.


Oh the hypocrisy.

LOL, you say some silly stuff, but in this context, that's one of the silliest.

Bless your hearts.

It's not plausible at all that someone with the Trump campaign asked Russia to help them win, or even that Russia on its own wanted to help Trump win...that's a bridge too far.
However, it's totally plausible that Obama instructed our intelligence apparatus to spy on Trump for no reason whatsoever since he thought H would win easily.

You guys do remember again that Trump's "original" explanation for how he knew Obama "tapped" Trump tower was totally debunked, right????

My wife is all into this conspiracies. She said Judge Judy is showing re-runs and now she has her fill of intrigue in real time. Personally, I'm not into Judy I like coming here and read all the back and forth.

You guys pulling out old ass Pat Buchanan. Your desperation is showing.

(03-24-2017 10:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Bless your hearts.

It's not plausible at all that someone with the Trump campaign asked Russia to help them win, or even that Russia on its own wanted to help Trump win...that's a bridge too far.
However, it's totally plausible that Obama instructed our intelligence apparatus to spy on Trump for no reason whatsoever since he thought H would win easily.

You guys do remember again that Trump's "original" explanation for how he knew Obama "tapped" Trump tower was totally debunked, right????

I've got no problem believing that someone in Trump's campaign asked Russia to help them win, or that Russia on its own wanted to help Trump win. The latter wouldn't be anything new (countries meddling in the internal affairs of others), but for the former we've not yet seen any evidence. You have any evidence to present?

Here's some evidence I'll present.

According to FBI director Comey there's an ongoing investigation about Trump campaign-Russian connections. We can expect that in today's world, no such "investigation" would take place without some type of surveillance.

We know that Flynn's communications with the Russian ambassador were intercepted (surveillance) and he was then outted, the latter probably breaking federal laws.

We know that days before Trump took office, AG Lynch (a White House appointee) signed a document allowing intelligence agencies to share information at a level never before seen.

I guess these could all be coincidence, but in DC I doubt it.

Oh, and bless your heart.

Obama knew from the beginning Obamacare was a disaster. And he lied about what was in it. That we know.

As for wiretapping, that remains to be seen.

(03-25-2017 11:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  Obama knew from the beginning Obamacare was a disaster. And he lied about what was in it. That we know.

As for wiretapping, that remains to be seen.

His DOJ went to the FISA court, he knew.

(03-25-2017 12:07 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 11:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  Obama knew from the beginning Obamacare was a disaster. And he lied about what was in it. That we know.

As for wiretapping, that remains to be seen.

His DOJ went to the FISA court, he knew.

Yeah, that's the probable series of events, though we still don't know that for a fact. With Trump as president, I think we'll eventually find out.