(03-23-2017 10:23 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  What he did in collecting Trump's personal communications was as low as a President can go. He was nothing but a crooked Community organizer from Chicago to start with and that is how he went out. Crooked as hell. Hopefully he gets whats coming to him one day.

You sure got em to circle the wagons. Lol

(03-23-2017 11:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:23 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  What he did in collecting Trump's personal communications was as low as a President can go. He was nothing but a crooked Community organizer from Chicago to start with and that is how he went out. Crooked as hell. Hopefully he gets whats coming to him one day.

You sure got em to circle the wagons. Lol

So, his post was nothing but made up garbage used as a troll? Did you report him?

(03-23-2017 11:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Since the hearings started, Obama has been out of the country. Coincidence?

He sure has been quiet since Trump made the accusation.

(03-23-2017 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Since the hearings started, Obama has been out of the country. Coincidence?

He sure has been quiet since Trump made the accusation.

As quiet as he was before he made it.

He stayed pretty quiet while Trump perpetuated his racist birther nonsense month after month...so it's not all that unusual.

He's likely in the camp of letting Trump continually hang himself with his own words and tweets. Much more effective in the end IMO.

Nunes apologizes for going directly to White House with monitoring claims.

House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes apologized to members of his panel Thursday for not informing Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat, before going public with allegations that Trump transition messages were inadvertently intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies.

A committee aide said that Nunes apologized "for not sharing information about the documents he saw with the minority before going public” and that “he pledged to work with them on this issue.”


The apology from Nunes came as congressional Democrats on Thursday slammed him for his perceived allegiance to the Trump administration, questioning whether he is fit to lead to an impartial investigation into possible ties between Trump’s associates and Russian officials.

How did this thread get to three pages? Don't feed the troll.

(03-23-2017 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Since the hearings started, Obama has been out of the country. Coincidence?

He sure has been quiet since Trump made the accusation.

He's probably in Kenya.

(03-23-2017 11:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:23 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  What he did in collecting Trump's personal communications was as low as a President can go. He was nothing but a crooked Community organizer from Chicago to start with and that is how he went out. Crooked as hell. Hopefully he gets whats coming to him one day.

You sure got em to circle the wagons. Lol

So, his post was nothing but made up garbage used as a troll? Did you report him?

Reported one post ever. A public figure with deep pockets was being slandered bad enough to potentially shut the whole place down.

I'm no tattle tale.

Don't know intent but saw result. Lol

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:36 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:47 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Are you really denying that Obama's DOJ not once, but twice went to the FISA court to monitor Trump/or his inner circle?

Have you not listened to any of the stuff Nunes said? The surveillance was on foreign folks and Trump people were just incidentally swept up in that.

This likely means they either called people who were under investigation or the people under investigation called them.

Neither of those options bodes well for Trump.

Trump Tower was not "wiretapped" no matter how it is spun by the right.

Do you think they went beyond the scope of the FISA order? First time they were denied, 2nd was more narrow. But it would not take a leap if they conducted the spying based on the original application.

Well...I'm not sure. I highly doubt we have all the knowledge of what actually went down with any FISA warrant much less trying to ascertain what happened with two of them. These are normally secret things. And I don't really trust either side when they start trying to tell me what they did or did not entail.

The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

(03-23-2017 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:36 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:47 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Are you really denying that Obama's DOJ not once, but twice went to the FISA court to monitor Trump/or his inner circle?

Have you not listened to any of the stuff Nunes said? The surveillance was on foreign folks and Trump people were just incidentally swept up in that.

This likely means they either called people who were under investigation or the people under investigation called them.

Neither of those options bodes well for Trump.

Trump Tower was not "wiretapped" no matter how it is spun by the right.

Do you think they went beyond the scope of the FISA order? First time they were denied, 2nd was more narrow. But it would not take a leap if they conducted the spying based on the original application.

Well...I'm not sure. I highly doubt we have all the knowledge of what actually went down with any FISA warrant much less trying to ascertain what happened with two of them. These are normally secret things. And I don't really trust either side when they start trying to tell me what they did or did not entail.

The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

(03-23-2017 12:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nunes apologizes for going directly to White House with monitoring claims.

House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes apologized to members of his panel Thursday for not informing Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat, before going public with allegations that Trump transition messages were inadvertently intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies.

A committee aide said that Nunes apologized "for not sharing information about the documents he saw with the minority before going public” and that “he pledged to work with them on this issue.”


The apology from Nunes came as congressional Democrats on Thursday slammed him for his perceived allegiance to the Trump administration, questioning whether he is fit to lead to an impartial investigation into possible ties between Trump’s associates and Russian officials.

Kind of misleading? What he apologized for was not telling Rep. Adam Schiff. He did not apologized for telling President Trump. If he had he would be admitting he did something wrong by doing so. That's not the case.

(03-23-2017 01:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:36 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Have you not listened to any of the stuff Nunes said? The surveillance was on foreign folks and Trump people were just incidentally swept up in that.

This likely means they either called people who were under investigation or the people under investigation called them.

Neither of those options bodes well for Trump.

Trump Tower was not "wiretapped" no matter how it is spun by the right.

Do you think they went beyond the scope of the FISA order? First time they were denied, 2nd was more narrow. But it would not take a leap if they conducted the spying based on the original application.

Well...I'm not sure. I highly doubt we have all the knowledge of what actually went down with any FISA warrant much less trying to ascertain what happened with two of them. These are normally secret things. And I don't really trust either side when they start trying to tell me what they did or did not entail.

The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

If the FBI told President Obama that Trump or someone on his team was working with the Russian government against the USA...

they would have not been allowed to become president of this country. Why can't people understand that would be too dangerous to let happen. And if there was not enough info to arrest ....they would have anyways and named that person a enemy against this country.

That is how dangerous that would be.

COMMON SENSE! Some things are too important to sit on and let play out and letting a Russian spy into the job of the President of the U.S. is one of those.

So you are admitting President Obama knew there was a possible Russian spy, maybe even the person who will be the next President. And he did not give the order to you every tool with in reach to find out? Other words it's insane not to think President Obama was not in the loop on any information got on those wiretaps.


What is not being said or done is way more telling than the leak of a few calls and letting gullible people form opinions from that. If there was anything.....

SOMEONE would have leaked FACTS by now

(03-23-2017 01:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:36 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Do you think they went beyond the scope of the FISA order? First time they were denied, 2nd was more narrow. But it would not take a leap if they conducted the spying based on the original application.

Well...I'm not sure. I highly doubt we have all the knowledge of what actually went down with any FISA warrant much less trying to ascertain what happened with two of them. These are normally secret things. And I don't really trust either side when they start trying to tell me what they did or did not entail.

The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

If the FBI told President Obama that Trump or someone on his team was working with the Russian government against the USA...

they would have not been allowed to become president of this country. Why can't people understand that would be too dangerous to let happen. And if there was not enough info to arrest ....they would have anyways and named that person a enemy against this country.

That is how dangerous that would be.

COMMON SENSE! Some things are too important to sit on and let play out and letting a Russian spy into the job of the President of the U.S. is one of those.

So you are admitting President Obama knew there was a possible Russian spy, maybe even the person who will be the next President. And he did not give the order to you every tool with in reach to find out? Other words it's insane not to think President Obama was not in the loop on any information got on those wiretaps.


What is not being said or done is way more telling than the leak of a few calls and letting gullible people form opinions from that. If there was anything.....

SOMEONE would have leaked FACTS by now

These things don't get solved in a matter of 30 minutes like it was a TV show. Evidence takes a long time to gather and a long time to prove.

It took them months before they had enough information to prove that Flynn was talking to the Russians.

It has taken many more months to get to the point we are at now.

Just because they haven't come to a conclusion yet doesn't mean there is nothing there.

6 months ago, people didn't even believe the Russians were trying to hack the election. Look where we are now.

(03-23-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Well...I'm not sure. I highly doubt we have all the knowledge of what actually went down with any FISA warrant much less trying to ascertain what happened with two of them. These are normally secret things. And I don't really trust either side when they start trying to tell me what they did or did not entail.

The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

If the FBI told President Obama that Trump or someone on his team was working with the Russian government against the USA...

they would have not been allowed to become president of this country. Why can't people understand that would be too dangerous to let happen. And if there was not enough info to arrest ....they would have anyways and named that person a enemy against this country.

That is how dangerous that would be.

COMMON SENSE! Some things are too important to sit on and let play out and letting a Russian spy into the job of the President of the U.S. is one of those.

So you are admitting President Obama knew there was a possible Russian spy, maybe even the person who will be the next President. And he did not give the order to you every tool with in reach to find out? Other words it's insane not to think President Obama was not in the loop on any information got on those wiretaps.


What is not being said or done is way more telling than the leak of a few calls and letting gullible people form opinions from that. If there was anything.....

SOMEONE would have leaked FACTS by now

These things don't get solved in a matter of 30 minutes like it was a TV show. Evidence takes a long time to gather and a long time to prove.

It took them months before they had enough information to prove that Flynn was talking to the Russians.

It has taken many more months to get to the point we are at now.

Just because they haven't come to a conclusion yet doesn't mean there is nothing there.

6 months ago, people didn't even believe the Russians were trying to hack the election. Look where we are now.

First off...this is not TV and as I said...if there was ANY good evidence that a Russian spy was the next president of this country. YOU DO NOT SIT ON IT. Actually you put as many people on that case as needed to find out before Nov 8th. A full 4 months since the investigation started.

Flynn, talking to the 'Russian', nor Russians, was not a crime. And there is nothing pointing to him being a Russian spy.

We are at the same point today as we were back before Nov...the Russians are coming. Still not one FACT linking anyone to spying for Russia on Trumps team.

To your last point...six months ago or today. Only a fool will believe Russia hacked this election. They very well might have hacked the DNC but we really will never know that for sure. The DNC refused to turn over their servers to the FBI. They did let a company owned by a Russian look at them. But that is far from hacking this election

(03-23-2017 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:23 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  What he did in collecting Trump's personal communications was as low as a President can go. He was nothing but a crooked Community organizer from Chicago to start with and that is how he went out. Crooked as hell. Hopefully he gets whats coming to him one day.

Well, one is truly born every minute I guess. SMH.

#nixon

#derp

#•

(03-23-2017 10:10 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

Keep hope alive!

Although, you probably should start preparing for the alternative. Might make it easier to accept.

We had a lot of our spies ending up dead. There is plenty of evidence we have someone complicit with the Russians. Fact.

(03-23-2017 01:50 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The one thing we can almost be sure of at this point, I would say 95%...


The FBI did not get or have any information that Trump and now President Trump or anyone connected with this White House did anything to put this nation in danger.

Other words...working with Russian from the inside

How can I be so assure (95%) of this? Well if the FBI overheard something that would hint to Trump working with Russia. It would be their job to report that to the President. President Obama.

You do not wait till Trump is the President and in the white house just because you are investigating. Some things are too important to sit on and this woul;d be one of those.

There might be a time when you try to use what you know and run with it to see where it goes. This would not be one of those times. Now if the FBI got this information after Trump was in office....

I'm sure there are other people, like the one's he testified in front of on Monday. So the point is if Trump or anyone working with him is a danger to this country. You don't wait and see how far it goes. The man can almost order a war...well at least start one any day he is in office. And there's nothing anyone could do.

BTW I would bet the farm every Russian in this country that is working for their country....

has surveillance

So you can bet the farm a lot of those sitting in Congress today have been recorded taking to a Russia under surveillance. What we do know is the part that was told to President Trump yesterday and hinted to in the press by Nunes has NOTHING to do with this investigation. So most likely it would be the same type of crap the FBI records everytime a member of congress talks to a Russian Official

Folks use some common sense, I guess it's flew out the window.....

Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

If the FBI told President Obama that Trump or someone on his team was working with the Russian government against the USA...

they would have not been allowed to become president of this country. Why can't people understand that would be too dangerous to let happen. And if there was not enough info to arrest ....they would have anyways and named that person a enemy against this country.

That is how dangerous that would be.

COMMON SENSE! Some things are too important to sit on and let play out and letting a Russian spy into the job of the President of the U.S. is one of those.

So you are admitting President Obama knew there was a possible Russian spy, maybe even the person who will be the next President. And he did not give the order to you every tool with in reach to find out? Other words it's insane not to think President Obama was not in the loop on any information got on those wiretaps.


What is not being said or done is way more telling than the leak of a few calls and letting gullible people form opinions from that. If there was anything.....

SOMEONE would have leaked FACTS by now

These things don't get solved in a matter of 30 minutes like it was a TV show. Evidence takes a long time to gather and a long time to prove.

It took them months before they had enough information to prove that Flynn was talking to the Russians.

It has taken many more months to get to the point we are at now.

Just because they haven't come to a conclusion yet doesn't mean there is nothing there.

6 months ago, people didn't even believe the Russians were trying to hack the election. Look where we are now.

First off...this is not TV and as I said...if there was ANY good evidence that a Russian spy was the next president of this country. YOU DO NOT SIT ON IT. Actually you put as many people on that case as needed to find out before Nov 8th. A full 4 months since the investigation started.

Flynn, talking to the 'Russian', nor Russians, was not a crime. And there is nothing pointing to him being a Russian spy.

We are at the same point today as we were back before Nov...the Russians are coming. Still not one FACT linking anyone to spying for Russia on Trumps team.

To your last point...six months ago or today. Only a fool will believe Russia hacked this election. They very well might have hacked the DNC but we really will never know that for sure. The DNC refused to turn over their servers to the FBI. They did let a company owned by a Russian look at them. But that is far from hacking this election

Oh my God dude. No one is even disputing that the Russians hacked the election anymore. That is common knowledge.

They didn't even try and hide it. Where on earth have you been?

(03-24-2017 10:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:50 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Have you been out of the country? They told the Obama administration that this was going on going back to July of last year.

If the FBI told President Obama that Trump or someone on his team was working with the Russian government against the USA...

they would have not been allowed to become president of this country. Why can't people understand that would be too dangerous to let happen. And if there was not enough info to arrest ....they would have anyways and named that person a enemy against this country.

That is how dangerous that would be.

COMMON SENSE! Some things are too important to sit on and let play out and letting a Russian spy into the job of the President of the U.S. is one of those.

So you are admitting President Obama knew there was a possible Russian spy, maybe even the person who will be the next President. And he did not give the order to you every tool with in reach to find out? Other words it's insane not to think President Obama was not in the loop on any information got on those wiretaps.


What is not being said or done is way more telling than the leak of a few calls and letting gullible people form opinions from that. If there was anything.....

SOMEONE would have leaked FACTS by now

These things don't get solved in a matter of 30 minutes like it was a TV show. Evidence takes a long time to gather and a long time to prove.

It took them months before they had enough information to prove that Flynn was talking to the Russians.

It has taken many more months to get to the point we are at now.

Just because they haven't come to a conclusion yet doesn't mean there is nothing there.

6 months ago, people didn't even believe the Russians were trying to hack the election. Look where we are now.

First off...this is not TV and as I said...if there was ANY good evidence that a Russian spy was the next president of this country. YOU DO NOT SIT ON IT. Actually you put as many people on that case as needed to find out before Nov 8th. A full 4 months since the investigation started.

Flynn, talking to the 'Russian', nor Russians, was not a crime. And there is nothing pointing to him being a Russian spy.

We are at the same point today as we were back before Nov...the Russians are coming. Still not one FACT linking anyone to spying for Russia on Trumps team.

To your last point...six months ago or today. Only a fool will believe Russia hacked this election. They very well might have hacked the DNC but we really will never know that for sure. The DNC refused to turn over their servers to the FBI. They did let a company owned by a Russian look at them. But that is far from hacking this election

Oh my God dude. No one is even disputing that the Russians hacked the election anymore. That is common knowledge.

They didn't even try and hide it. Where on earth have you been?

They hacked the election? How? They hand counted votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan and Trump's lead grew. What election system, precisely, did the Russians hack?