If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

If you are butthurt now, just wait. Its going to get much worse. After 18 months of Trump, you should know how this is going to end.

(03-23-2017 09:46 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:19 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 08:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Question...what does Trump have on Nunes that he's selling his soul to protect him?

He worked on the Trump campaign as well. Perhaps Donald threatened him with a leak of his own Russian ties?

Come on dude. Lol. That's gotta be a troll post. Next thing will be what does Trump have on posters here that makes us believe the dems were crooked during the election.

Lmao. Well done.

I'm dead serious. Nunes is the chair of the house committee. He went outside that committee and took direct evidence to Trump who is potentially the target of his investigation without consulting with his committee.

Why would he do that? He basically sabotaged his committee and his credibility and all but assured an independent commission.

And all you have to do is watch Hannity last night to see it. He opened with this as proof that Trump was wiretapped, he wasn't. This was nothing more than a play to Trump and his blind base.

And it's not unlike Trump to make a strong arm play of this type. He just did it with the freedom caucus on his health care bill that's likely to fail today.

You're slow. An independent commission is what this needs and is most feared by the dims. Your side is getting played.

My side is America. But you're right...we are getting played. Hopefully he will be in jail sooner rather than later....or at least before there's nothing left of our reputation.

(03-23-2017 09:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

If you are butthurt now, just wait. Its going to get much worse. After 18 months of Trump, you should know how this is going to end.

What the hell does that have to do with anything in this thread?

(03-23-2017 09:54 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

If you are butthurt now, just wait. Its going to get much worse. After 18 months of Trump, you should know how this is going to end.

I'm not at all butthurt. I'm simply pointing out the facts. With every passing day, these guys continuously shoot themselves in the foot.

They are all committing political suicide by supporting Trump.

I think it's a train wreck and I seriously have stopped watching sports to watch it.

You stopped watching sports to watch this but are not butthurt...

Unsure about committing political suicide, their actions are probably popular back in their home districts

(03-23-2017 10:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You stopped watching sports to watch this but are not butthurt...

That is correct. I honestly thought I was going to give watching the news a break but this is far more entertaining than the baseball game or basketball games that were on last night.

Not butt hurt at all.

Enjoying this 100%

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

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A trainwreck it's not. A masterful slice and dice is more what I had in mind.

(03-23-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

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That is some terrifying stuff right there.

(03-23-2017 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

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That is some terrifying stuff right there.

yep, especially the part on the judges.

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(03-23-2017 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:19 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 08:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Question...what does Trump have on Nunes that he's selling his soul to protect him?

He worked on the Trump campaign as well. Perhaps Donald threatened him with a leak of his own Russian ties?

Come on dude. Lol. That's gotta be a troll post. Next thing will be what does Trump have on posters here that makes us believe the dems were crooked during the election.

Lmao. Well done.

I'm dead serious. Nunes is the chair of the house committee. He went outside that committee and took direct evidence to Trump who is potentially the target of his investigation without consulting with his committee.

Why would he do that? He basically sabotaged his committee and his credibility and all but assured an independent commission.

And all you have to do is watch Hannity last night to see it. He opened with this as proof that Trump was wiretapped, he wasn't. This was nothing more than a play to Trump and his blind base.

And it's not unlike Trump to make a strong arm play of this type. He just did it with the freedom caucus on his health care bill that's likely to fail today.

Bwahahahaha stahp

(03-23-2017 10:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:19 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 08:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Question...what does Trump have on Nunes that he's selling his soul to protect him?

He worked on the Trump campaign as well. Perhaps Donald threatened him with a leak of his own Russian ties?

Come on dude. Lol. That's gotta be a troll post. Next thing will be what does Trump have on posters here that makes us believe the dems were crooked during the election.

Lmao. Well done.

I'm dead serious. Nunes is the chair of the house committee. He went outside that committee and took direct evidence to Trump who is potentially the target of his investigation without consulting with his committee.

Why would he do that? He basically sabotaged his committee and his credibility and all but assured an independent commission.

And all you have to do is watch Hannity last night to see it. He opened with this as proof that Trump was wiretapped, he wasn't. This was nothing more than a play to Trump and his blind base.

And it's not unlike Trump to make a strong arm play of this type. He just did it with the freedom caucus on his health care bill that's likely to fail today.

Bwahahahaha stahp

someone tell RWT the meaning of "wiretap"

(03-23-2017 09:41 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:37 AM)gdunn Wrote:  So the chair of a committee cannot brief the POTUS before his committee?

Not when its an oversight committee of the intelligence community that is headed by the executive branch.

But of course he "can" brief the POTUS, its not illegal. But talk about showing your cards.

Again all agencies but the FBI have closed their investigations on Russia and Trump. So if a whistleblower from the CIA dropped this info in the chair's lap, why hold it up in committee instead of taking it to the President?

(03-23-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

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This isn't the information that Nunez was talking about because he was clearly asked if Trump was systematically under surveillance and he said no.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...illance-du

Notice I used the same website you posted.

Nunez seems not to understand the nature of incidental surveillance.

Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration, "Seems To Be Inappropriate"

It isn't inappropriate if it is incidental.

damn, fit. That that isn't the issue here. and apparently you can't even read the stories you post.


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(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

This isn't the information that Nunez was talking about because he was clearly asked if Trump was systematically under surveillance and he said no.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...illance-du

Notice I used the same website you posted.

Nunez seems not to understand the nature of incidental surveillance.

Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration, "Seems To Be Inappropriate"

It isn't inappropriate if it is incidental.

it is HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE to UNMASK civilians in an INCEDENTAL SURVEILLANCE.

get it now?

it was MUH PUTIN. There was no collusion. There was a mention of Trump and transition team members name during a surveillance that had little to no intelligence value. The names should have NEVER HAVE BEEN UNMASKED UNLESS DONE FOR DUBIOUS AND ILLEGAL PURPOSES.

(03-23-2017 10:15 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If anyone is carrying water, it's Nunez.

He ran to the press and said absolutely nothing. No new investigation, no new information, no documents, nothing.

All he did was make it absolutely clear that these guys cannot have an unbias investigation.

Wrong, Fit. There is a whistle blower out there who worked inside the system. That is what started this. He was ignored by the Judiciary Committee and Obama's Intel community. There are 47 hard drives worth of documents.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22...vernment-s

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-w...d-other-me

Quote:Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes. 

official letter

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/17032...Letter.pdf

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That is some terrifying stuff right there.

yep, especially the part on the judges.

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Yes. Of course we'll see how much meat is really there. Klayman likes publicity.

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:41 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:37 AM)gdunn Wrote:  So the chair of a committee cannot brief the POTUS before his committee?

Not when its an oversight committee of the intelligence community that is headed by the executive branch.

But of course he "can" brief the POTUS, its not illegal. But talk about showing your cards.

Again all agencies but the FBI have closed their investigations on Russia and Trump. So if a whistleblower from the CIA dropped this info in the chair's lap, why hold it up in committee instead of taking it to the President?

couldn't wait 12 hours?