"wires tapped"

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/de...ama-236366

Quote:Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under surveillance during the Obama administration following November's election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes told reporters Wednesday.

Nunes said the surveillance appears to have been legal, incidental collection and that it does not appear to have been related to concerns over collusion with Russia.

So does this make Clapper's statement false or just inaccurate.

So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

So now it wasn't the British? The poor Judge.

But in more current news...it looks like we found one of those awful leakers in Mr. Nunes!

He really should shut his yapper while there is an ongoing FBI investigation.

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

No, it doesn't.

Comey just testified to that fact.

I figured there was some sort of surveillance. Given that the investigation was going on since July, its almost impossible to believe there was an investigation without it.

(03-22-2017 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

No, it doesn't.

Comey just testified to that fact.

now you are back to blowing Comey? good grief, make up your mind.

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

The wiretapping being "legal" has nothing to do with Trumps statement.

If it was ordered by the executive branch of the government while Obama was president, Obama effectively ordered it.

(03-22-2017 12:55 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

The wiretapping being "legal" has nothing to do with Trumps statement.

If it was ordered by the executive branch of the government while Obama was president, Obama effectively ordered it.

Except that he didn't. Did you not just watch Comey's testimony on Monday. He said Obama did not order anything.

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

Quote:during the Obama administration

(03-22-2017 12:55 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

The wiretapping being "legal" has nothing to do with Trumps statement.

If it was ordered by the executive branch of the government while Obama was president, Obama effectively ordered it.

It's not just the word legal man, it's the "incidental" part

In other words, the wiretap was not originally attached to Trump to begin with, but information was collected because he likely spoke to someone who was wiretapped, allowing the Feds to collect information legally and incidentally without issue.

Trump turned this tiny thing into an international spy ring in which we colluded with foreign powers to do our dirty work, because that fits his narrative.

My guess is a fair portion of us have been incidentally wiretapped before without knowing it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...community/

Quote:Multiple Trump transition officials were “unmasked” by the intelligence community in what could be repeated violations of federal secrecy laws, the chairman of the House intelligence committee said Wednesday.
....
the president elect and his team were at least monitored and disseminated in what appears to be intelligence reporting channels,” the congressman said.

Fiendly reminder....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/po....html?_r=0

Quote:In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.

The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.

what wiretaps??? oh, THOSE wiretaps.

worse than watergate.

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

Oh, Good Lord. Do you really think they were not intercepting phone conversations? Do you think that requires a physical bug on the phone like it did in the Watergate era?

I have a bridge to talk to you about. Fabulous deal priced to move today.

(03-22-2017 12:42 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  So does this make Clapper's statement false or just inaccurate.

Once again. Clapper's comment was simply his opinion regarding if there was anything there yet.

His response was that there was plenty of smoke but thus far no fire.

(03-22-2017 01:14 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So...there was something...but nothing near the level of what Trump is claiming?

Trump says Obama "wiretapped" him.

This seems to back that up.

Lets read the quote again from Nunes:

"The wiretapping was legal, incidental, and not connected to Russia"

That's a far cry from Trump's exaggeration that started with Obama personally ordering this, and when no proof was found of such, immediately blaming the British.

Oh, Good Lord. Do you really think they were not intercepting phone conversations? Do you think that requires a physical bug on the phone like it did in the Watergate era?

I have a bridge to talk to you about. Fabulous deal priced to move today.

I never said anything like that.

Think about the term "incidental" and explain to me what an incidental wiretap is, and then this probably is easier explained.

Either way, it seems a lot simpler than "The BRITISH DID IT!" #BlameBritain #Churchhill sucks #BREXIT

(03-22-2017 01:12 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  what wiretaps??? oh, THOSE wiretaps.

Do you have a link for that or just a Meme?