Be kinda nice if we would win the dreadful conference we're in now...

(03-19-2017 03:21 PM)CajunEagle Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 01:09 PM)Eagle9 Wrote:  Why is Appy an emberassment ?

Yea....good question. I don't see it.

"Hot, Hot, Hot"

(12-03-2016 11:32 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just hitting a "reset" button and starting with a clean slate due to NCAA basketball tournament payouts and post-season bids, which are tied to the existing conferences. That current and future revenue is only magnified by the TV revenue going to crap.

The Mountain West was able to be born in an airport meeting because a core group of the schools had been together long enough to retain their rights even if they broke away, and they could then add from there. We're down to UTEP, Rice, UAB, Marshall, and us, and two of them aren't even on the above list. I forget how many schools have to be together for how many years to continue to be recognized as a league by the NCAA, but I'm pretty sure the school number is at least 6.

Any Belt/CUSA re-shuffling is going to require the cooperation of nearly everyone involved or else the numbers won't work and/or lawsuits will hold up the whole thing. The time to do these kinds of moves was before CUSA gutted the Belt and both conferences invited in every Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton.

The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

(03-20-2017 11:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 11:32 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just hitting a "reset" button and starting with a clean slate due to NCAA basketball tournament payouts and post-season bids, which are tied to the existing conferences. That current and future revenue is only magnified by the TV revenue going to crap.

The Mountain West was able to be born in an airport meeting because a core group of the schools had been together long enough to retain their rights even if they broke away, and they could then add from there. We're down to UTEP, Rice, UAB, Marshall, and us, and two of them aren't even on the above list. I forget how many schools have to be together for how many years to continue to be recognized as a league by the NCAA, but I'm pretty sure the school number is at least 6.

Any Belt/CUSA re-shuffling is going to require the cooperation of nearly everyone involved or else the numbers won't work and/or lawsuits will hold up the whole thing. The time to do these kinds of moves was before CUSA gutted the Belt and both conferences invited in every Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton.

The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

Thanks for straightening me out.

In the time that's passed since I posted that, I've changed my mind anyway. With the TV money barely being enough to pay an assistant bowling coach and our conference champion getting a 12 seed with 30 wins, I now say, "F*** it, blow it up." There's just not much of anything to be gained by keeping the status quo. Compacting the conferences would save on travel and produce better ticket sales at the very least.

(03-21-2017 03:19 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(03-20-2017 11:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 11:32 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just hitting a "reset" button and starting with a clean slate due to NCAA basketball tournament payouts and post-season bids, which are tied to the existing conferences. That current and future revenue is only magnified by the TV revenue going to crap.

The Mountain West was able to be born in an airport meeting because a core group of the schools had been together long enough to retain their rights even if they broke away, and they could then add from there. We're down to UTEP, Rice, UAB, Marshall, and us, and two of them aren't even on the above list. I forget how many schools have to be together for how many years to continue to be recognized as a league by the NCAA, but I'm pretty sure the school number is at least 6.

Any Belt/CUSA re-shuffling is going to require the cooperation of nearly everyone involved or else the numbers won't work and/or lawsuits will hold up the whole thing. The time to do these kinds of moves was before CUSA gutted the Belt and both conferences invited in every Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton.

The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

Thanks for straightening me out.

In the time that's passed since I posted that, I've changed my mind anyway. With the TV money barely being enough to pay an assistant bowling coach and our conference champion getting a 12 seed with 30 wins, I now say, "F*** it, blow it up." There's just not much of anything to be gained by keeping the status quo. Compacting the conferences would save on travel and produce better ticket sales at the very least.

I am still a fan if the resurrection of the Gulf States conference. I a mnot about to go listing out members. I think that is pretty much covered.

Ace...

(03-21-2017 04:05 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 03:19 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(03-20-2017 11:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 11:32 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just hitting a "reset" button and starting with a clean slate due to NCAA basketball tournament payouts and post-season bids, which are tied to the existing conferences. That current and future revenue is only magnified by the TV revenue going to crap.

The Mountain West was able to be born in an airport meeting because a core group of the schools had been together long enough to retain their rights even if they broke away, and they could then add from there. We're down to UTEP, Rice, UAB, Marshall, and us, and two of them aren't even on the above list. I forget how many schools have to be together for how many years to continue to be recognized as a league by the NCAA, but I'm pretty sure the school number is at least 6.

Any Belt/CUSA re-shuffling is going to require the cooperation of nearly everyone involved or else the numbers won't work and/or lawsuits will hold up the whole thing. The time to do these kinds of moves was before CUSA gutted the Belt and both conferences invited in every Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton.

The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

Thanks for straightening me out.

In the time that's passed since I posted that, I've changed my mind anyway. With the TV money barely being enough to pay an assistant bowling coach and our conference champion getting a 12 seed with 30 wins, I now say, "F*** it, blow it up." There's just not much of anything to be gained by keeping the status quo. Compacting the conferences would save on travel and produce better ticket sales at the very least.

I am still a fan if the resurrection of the Gulf States conference. I a mnot about to go listing out members. I think that is pretty much covered.

Ace...

You really want to be in a league with Slow Learners' University and Mcneese State?

There had been discussions before McGillis left of a new conference. We were in position to join the AAC had they lost 1 or 3 to the XII last summer. The fallback became a possible new, more regional conference. Not sure where we land on that with Gilbert as AD.

As HP said, when you get peanuts for TV dollars and your 30-win basketball team would have missed the NCAAs if they didn't win the tournament, what's left for C-USA to hold us together?

(03-21-2017 05:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  There had been discussions before McGillis left of a new conference. We were in position to join the AAC had they lost 1 or 3 to the XII last summer. The fallback became a possible new, more regional conference. Not sure where we land on that with Gilbert as AD.

As HP said, when you get peanuts for TV dollars and your 30-win basketball team would have missed the NCAAs if they didn't win the tournament, what's left for C-USA to hold us together?

Any idea which teams would be in such a league?

Eventually, it'll only make sense for the AAC, Belt, and CUSA to reorganize by East Coast, Central, and Southwest. All this driving past & flying over 2-3 other G5 campuses in order to play a conference game is becoming more pointless by the day.

(03-21-2017 05:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Not sure where we land with Gilbert as AD.

I suggest foaming the runway.

(03-21-2017 05:53 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Eventually, it'll only make sense for the AAC, Belt, and CUSA to reorganize by East Coast, Central, and Southwest. All this driving past & flying over 2-3 other G5 campuses in order to play a conference game is becoming more pointless by the day.

I have other thoughts....but yeah, that's the most likely outcome at this point...

(03-21-2017 04:37 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 04:05 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 03:19 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(03-20-2017 11:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-03-2016 11:32 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just hitting a "reset" button and starting with a clean slate due to NCAA basketball tournament payouts and post-season bids, which are tied to the existing conferences. That current and future revenue is only magnified by the TV revenue going to crap.

The Mountain West was able to be born in an airport meeting because a core group of the schools had been together long enough to retain their rights even if they broke away, and they could then add from there. We're down to UTEP, Rice, UAB, Marshall, and us, and two of them aren't even on the above list. I forget how many schools have to be together for how many years to continue to be recognized as a league by the NCAA, but I'm pretty sure the school number is at least 6.

Any Belt/CUSA re-shuffling is going to require the cooperation of nearly everyone involved or else the numbers won't work and/or lawsuits will hold up the whole thing. The time to do these kinds of moves was before CUSA gutted the Belt and both conferences invited in every Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton.

The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

Thanks for straightening me out.

In the time that's passed since I posted that, I've changed my mind anyway. With the TV money barely being enough to pay an assistant bowling coach and our conference champion getting a 12 seed with 30 wins, I now say, "F*** it, blow it up." There's just not much of anything to be gained by keeping the status quo. Compacting the conferences would save on travel and produce better ticket sales at the very least.

I am still a fan if the resurrection of the Gulf States conference. I a mnot about to go listing out members. I think that is pretty much covered.

Ace...

You really want to be in a league with Slow Learners' University and Mcneese State?

And how would that be any different from the league oui are in now?

Ace...

(03-21-2017 09:25 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 04:37 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 04:05 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 03:19 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(03-20-2017 11:44 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  The bolded part isn't true. There was nothing in place at the time the MWC was formed. The MWC didn't have at autobid the 1st 4 years its formation. As a matter of fact I think either the 1st or 2nd year they had no one in the NCAAs. The other 3 years either Utah or San Diego St got an at large.

After the formation of the MWC is when the NCAA set up the rules on conference reformation.

Thanks for straightening me out.

In the time that's passed since I posted that, I've changed my mind anyway. With the TV money barely being enough to pay an assistant bowling coach and our conference champion getting a 12 seed with 30 wins, I now say, "F*** it, blow it up." There's just not much of anything to be gained by keeping the status quo. Compacting the conferences would save on travel and produce better ticket sales at the very least.

I am still a fan if the resurrection of the Gulf States conference. I a mnot about to go listing out members. I think that is pretty much covered.

Ace...

You really want to be in a league with Slow Learners' University and Mcneese State?

And how would that be any different from the league oui are in now?

Ace...

it's too early to pull that trigger....there are other options that i'm tired of repeating....

F&&king shoot me.

I can't believe I have read 6 more pages of this sh*t to add to the 1.2 million pages of it on EP.

(03-21-2017 09:49 PM)tg300 Wrote:  F&&king shoot me.

I can't believe I have read 6 more pages of this sh*t to add to the 1.2 million pages of it on EP.

Lol

(03-21-2017 09:49 PM)tg300 Wrote:  F&&king shoot me.

I can't believe I have read 6 more pages of this sh*t to add to the 1.2 million pages of it on EP.

I can't believe you actually read every page. Wtf were you thinking

(03-21-2017 09:49 PM)tg300 Wrote:  I can't believe I can read.

No need to desecrate The Delta Chief

(03-21-2017 09:54 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 09:49 PM)tg300 Wrote:  F&&king shoot me.

I can't believe I have read 6 more pages of this sh*t to add to the 1.2 million pages of it on EP.

I can't believe you actually read every page. Wtf were you thinking

Looking for the nugget of wisdom in it.

There wasn't one.

(03-22-2017 07:20 AM)tg300 Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 09:54 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 09:49 PM)tg300 Wrote:  F&&king shoot me.

I can't believe I have read 6 more pages of this sh*t to add to the 1.2 million pages of it on EP.

I can't believe you actually read every page. Wtf were you thinking

nugget of wisdom

Don't get him started

Nugget retired.

Ace...