No wonder Jack left. I'm sure his new school will take him someplace nice.

One Tribe. One Family.

Here is how this came about.

1. I talked with Bobby yesterday about starting a booster club for basketball. He suggested that I get with Tony to see if he is on board and to determine his needs.

2. I sent Tony an email and he called me today.

I asked Tony what the immediate needs of the program are. He said that the timing of my email was welcomed because he had just found out that the overseas trip was off the table due to funding. He was not asking that I go out and find donors for this trip, or even that it get funded through donations. (I am the one who told him we would make it happen---somehow.) Instead, I think he saw the formation of a booster club as a way to support basketball beyond what the athletic department allows for.

So, here we are. I am again flumoxed by the lack of support basketball gets from the athletic department...and I am tired of being outraged. I will focus on Mr. Ribe's immediate goal of solving this for our players and coaches for this year. And, in doing so, I will also look for a long term solution. I will be back with detailed info about how to donate and where/when the trip will be.

Thanks for the update and efforts on a short term problem/solution, as well as, the focus beyond on the long term vision.

We frequently place all responsibility on the AD, but is not any school AD's ultimate directive set by the President and BOD? SH will be under the same marching orders.

"For the Basketball Bold"

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As I understand it, our current AD only has experience in athletic administration @ one institution of higher learning and prior to that was in venue management.

Our incoming AD has experience @ six institutions higher learning and in an athletic conference. I'm counting her breadth of experience and fund raising expertise to find a way to overcome these types of issues going forward.

(03-21-2017 02:22 PM)Mrs. Got Ribe Wrote:  Here is how this came about.

1. I talked with Bobby yesterday about starting a booster club for basketball. He suggested that I get with Tony to see if he is on board and to determine his needs.

2. I sent Tony an email and he called me today.

I asked Tony what the immediate needs of the program are. He said that the timing of my email was welcomed because he had just found out that the overseas trip was off the table due to funding. He was not asking that I go out and find donors for this trip, or even that it get funded through donations. (I am the one who told him we would make it happen---somehow.) Instead, I think he saw the formation of a booster club as a way to support basketball beyond what the athletic department allows for.

So, here we are. I am again flumoxed by the lack of support basketball gets from the athletic department...and I am tired of being outraged. I will focus on Mr. Ribe's immediate goal of solving this for our players and coaches for this year. And, in doing so, I will also look for a long term solution. I will be back with detailed info about how to donate and where/when the trip will be.

The timing really could be a silver lining. The immediate need for 75k is something that those of us (and others) interested in this could chip in to and see an immediate return. It's not like putting in for a new practice facility or coaches salary where it may be awhile before you see your ROI. The trip will be in the next few months, when they get back they can do a thank you event with anyone who gave over a certain amount with all the great teams the beat and some fun highlights, and then that translates to coming out of the gate strong. Then you establish your base on which to build this group; and by base I mean both big and small donors, because today's small donors (hopefully) become tomorrow's big donors.

I have also heard from several of you offering help for the booster club. THANK YOU! Our first task will be securing funding for this trip and when we do that, it will be a good day. If anyone else is interested in helping out with the club and this fund raising, let me know. I'll be in touch.

TH, I love it: For the Basketball Bold

Kathryn
kklitten@gmail.com

On a somewhat related note, as I was watching basketball over the weekend I noticed the current slogan for Doritos is also "For the bold":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Oshuhw4jQ

Well, I can tell you that this is the same type situation that kicked the football boosters into reality. We need to make it happen for basketball now.

(03-21-2017 02:51 PM)LeadBolt Wrote:  As I understand it, our current AD only has experience in athletic administration @ one institution of higher learning and prior to that was in venue management.

Our incoming AD has experience @ six institutions higher learning and in an athletic conference. I'm counting her breadth of experience and fund raising expertise to find a way to overcome these types of issues going forward.

I agree, but if the President and BOD emphasis is spread equally across athletics with no separation for the bigger picture impact/ROI of a successful basketball program on the university, then SH may bring in more money, but her focus will still be equally spread across athletic programs in that vision and money. Until her marching orders change, I don't think there is anything in her background that implies she will push for a different vision than the current one. She may raise more money for all programs, but.....

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Do not send this thread sideways re: the President or the BOD. We are very lucky there.

This is an AD issue.

I have a question here. Where did my money go for the shooting shirt if not the overseas trip. The shirt is cool and all but I expressly bought it in order to help fund a trip overseas. I probably wouldn't have bought one otherwise. A $30 shirt isn't gonna break the bank and I am hopeful that the money will still be spent wisely but I'd like to know exactly where I'm giving my money.

Zable, I plan on finding out how much money was raised through the shirt sales and I anticipate the money from this becomes the seed money for our campaign. We need to keep our word on expressed giving. If we raised it for an overseas trip, it needs to go to an overseas trip. They are really cool shirts, though.

(03-21-2017 03:08 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:51 PM)LeadBolt Wrote:  As I understand it, our current AD only has experience in athletic administration @ one institution of higher learning and prior to that was in venue management.

Our incoming AD has experience @ six institutions higher learning and in an athletic conference. I'm counting her breadth of experience and fund raising expertise to find a way to overcome these types of issues going forward.

I agree, but if the President and BOD emphasis is spread equally across athletics with no separation for the bigger picture impact/ROI of a successful basketball program on the university, then SH may bring in more money, but her focus will still be equally spread across athletic programs in that vision and money. Until her marching orders change, I don't think there is anything in her background that implies she will push for a different vision than the current one. She may raise more money for all programs, but.....

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I agree that we are fortunate with the President and BOD. I would think that her experience would not just help with fund raising, but also with helping to sharpen the focus and prioritize efforts where the greatest impact/ROI will occur.

My shirt arrived today...

The For the Bold statement was the first time (in history, as far as I know...) that the "upper level" of the Administration (Pres/BOV) acknowledged that a strong basketball program was the surest way to raise national awareness of the College, in that manor.

I had great hope that the new AD would be given those type of instructions heading into the future. I now fear that it looks all too much, like "business as usual" for the athletic department.

SH may not be in the door yet, but I bet she's been made aware of this. Hopefully she can hit the ground running with fundraising ideas even before shes out of the gate.

I too ordered a shirt strictly to support the overseas trip.

To my limited knowledge there are three unrelated basketball fundraising activities coming due about now:

Second installment of the summer school commitment
Gamechanger Challenge
Shooting Shirts

I am not complaining, simply suggesting that there that there seems be passion for MBB which seems to need an overarching plan and booster effort.

A thought might be to designate a certain small $$$ amount (I don't know, maybe $50) as "dues" to a booster club, that this year would go to the overseas trip.

Obviously that's not enough to get the trip funded but it would be step towards a membership and that all-important mailing list.

If Shaver says this is his top priority then count me on for a contribution.

I agree that this is very disappointing for the team and suggests at a minimum that communications between the AD and the coaching staff fell short of the standard of professionalism required at a Division 1 school.

There is, however, one point I would make. W&M generates a very small amount of men's basketball revenue from ticket sales, and therefore, the program is funded by donations, guarantee games, and draws from the student athletic fees - which are ridiculously high.

I am fully behind the idea of a trip that is paid by private donations, tv profit sharing, guarantee games, or any other voluntary revenue source. However, I do not like the idea of using student fees for that kind of trip.

(03-21-2017 03:52 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  The For the Bold statement was the first time (in history, as far as I know...) that the "upper level" of the Administration (Pres/BOV) acknowledged that a strong basketball program was the surest way to raise national awareness of the College, in that manor.

I had great hope that the new AD would be given those type of instructions heading into the future. I now fear that it looks all too much, like "business as usual" for the athletic department.

Yes, that statement about basketball (along with my favorite: "a championship experience for every student and fan") has been out there long enough so that if Reveley/BOV really thought that way then they could have already been doing something about it (better OOC, preseason tournaments, postseason, etc etc).

BTW, just sayin', but where I work when a leadership change is announced the new person is already busy behind the scenes even if the supposed start date is weeks away. I don't want to throw a wet blanket on anyone's hopes but my guess (and it is only a guess) is that not only does SH know about it but maybe she put the kibosh on the trip. Why else would it have supposedly been a "go" for months and then suddenly, just a week after she is named, it is now a "no go"?

I repeat again ... do not send this thread sidewise re: Reveley or the BOV.

From my limited involvement over the last few years, this is an AD issue.

Let me put it another way. The President and BOV have blocked nothing, and stand ready to help. This is an AD issue. What has occurred, or hasn't occurred, is 100% on the AD.

(03-21-2017 01:17 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I just misbehaved on Twitter. See if I get a reply.... <yawn>

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