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Is free speech dying in the west?
FWIW, what this guy said is disgusting but he just got sentenced to 4 years in prison for it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-told.html

Quote:Lawrence Burns, 26, is accused of writing 140 Facebook posts on an alias account in which he is said to have stirred up racial hatred.

It's also alleged he commented on a YouTube video that he wanted to 'hang the black race', while also sharing Adolf Hitler artwork.

Opening the trial to a jury at Cambridge Crown Court on Monday, prosecutor Mark Weekes said: 'This is a young man who is an extremist and has expressed racist views, particularly towards the Jewish and Afro-Caribbean community.

'On his public Facebook account, which has more than 90 friends, he expressed some of the vilest and most offensive sentiments possible.

'Many of the posts are abusive and insulting towards Jews, who he refers to as 'sub-human animals' and contain offensive words.'

http://www.northeastctu.police.uk/news/m...a-postings

Quote: 23 year old man from Cambridge has today, (Friday March 10) been sentenced at Peterborough Crown Court, after a police investigation into social media postings. He has been sentenced to four years.



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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
Dueling is needed.
03-21-2017 10:34 PM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
It's certainly on its way and the rest of us are fighting it like it's a battle.
03-21-2017 10:36 PM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
that's beyond disturbing....

the path to preemptive measures should cause everyone to shiver...

this board is dead by '20 IMO....

'84 is not worth dealing with at that point.....

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03-21-2017 10:46 PM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
(03-21-2017 10:52 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  FWIW, what this guy said is disgusting but he just got sentenced to 4 years in prison for it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-told.html

Quote:Lawrence Burns, 26, is accused of writing 140 Facebook posts on an alias account in which he is said to have stirred up racial hatred.

It's also alleged he commented on a YouTube video that he wanted to 'hang the black race', while also sharing Adolf Hitler artwork.

Opening the trial to a jury at Cambridge Crown Court on Monday, prosecutor Mark Weekes said: 'This is a young man who is an extremist and has expressed racist views, particularly towards the Jewish and Afro-Caribbean community.

'On his public Facebook account, which has more than 90 friends, he expressed some of the vilest and most offensive sentiments possible.

'Many of the posts are abusive and insulting towards Jews, who he refers to as 'sub-human animals' and contain offensive words.'

http://www.northeastctu.police.uk/news/m...a-postings

Quote: 23 year old man from Cambridge has today, (Friday March 10) been sentenced at Peterborough Crown Court, after a police investigation into social media postings. He has been sentenced to four years.



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I'd have to read through the filth, and I'd rather not... but...

This seems like it's pretty damn close to a call to action, and thus not protected by free speech.
03-21-2017 11:15 PM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
(03-21-2017 11:15 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I'd have to read through the filth, and I'd rather not... but...

This seems like it's pretty damn close to a call to action, and thus not protected by free speech.

Yea, this seems like an incitement to violence... and thus is an appropriate use of Hate Speech laws. Mis-gendering someone isn't hate speech like Canada would like to think.
03-21-2017 11:18 PM
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(03-21-2017 11:18 PM)q5sys Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:15 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I'd have to read through the filth, and I'd rather not... but...

This seems like it's pretty damn close to a call to action, and thus not protected by free speech.

Yea, this seems like an incitement to violence... and thus is an appropriate use of Hate Speech laws. Mis-gendering someone isn't hate speech like Canada would like to think.

I don't want to think of it like this... Calls to action and incitement of violence are crimes in their own right. Not "hate crimes".
03-21-2017 11:37 PM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
Rattlesnakes are more dangerous when they can't rattle
03-21-2017 11:44 PM
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(03-21-2017 11:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Rattlesnakes are more dangerous when they can't rattle

yepper....
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
(03-22-2017 01:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Rattlesnakes are more dangerous when they can't rattle

yepper....
Gotta start putting listening devices inside homes and businesses, right Stink?

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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
America has the freest speech in the world. Europe has never been as free. English are better than the French, but still not as free as us.
03-22-2017 07:13 AM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
(03-22-2017 01:36 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 01:12 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Rattlesnakes are more dangerous when they can't rattle

yepper....
Gotta start putting listening devices inside homes and businesses, right Stink?

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hell yeah....that effort would yield crucial intel like the following....





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03-22-2017 07:25 AM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
England has had laws against that type of speech for years maybe even since the 80s.
03-22-2017 07:48 AM
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RE: Is free speech dying in the west?
(03-22-2017 07:48 AM)fsquid Wrote:  England has had laws against that type of speech for years maybe even since the 80s.

And the UK, has a much lower bar on libel.

King John wouldn't be proud.
03-22-2017 08:10 AM
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