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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
Has there been any confirmation on the status of White and Brown? Would be dissapointed they are gone regardless of reason.
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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
(03-21-2017 11:28 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Has there been any confirmation on the status of White and Brown? Would be dissapointed they are gone regardless of reason.

I heard they were fired. No idea why and if it was Murphy's or someone else's decision. I am shocked to be honest. Wonder why they were let go and not let's say Mondro? It seemed to me that Brown and Murphy were inseparable. Very strange situation, I would love to find out what actually happened.
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I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.
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(03-21-2017 12:00 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.

I disagree. This has the finger prints of the AD's office on it.

I don't know the interactions of Heather and Christian in their oversight of MBB so I wouldn't say it was either or both, but at minimum Heather had to agree and carry it out.
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(03-21-2017 01:04 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 12:00 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.

I disagree. This has the finger prints of the AD's office on it.

I don't know the interactions of Heather and Christian in their oversight of MBB so I wouldn't say it was either or both, but at minimum Heather had to agree and carry it out.

I agree with both of you guys simultaneously. I could see the ADs coming down hard on Murphy and demanding changes. And Murphy turning around and saying he is willing to make changes.

I think in the end, we all thought changes were needed. Brown and White got scapegoated by the process rather than by the coach or AD. At least this is my hunch.
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(03-21-2017 03:21 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 01:04 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 12:00 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.

I disagree. This has the finger prints of the AD's office on it.

I don't know the interactions of Heather and Christian in their oversight of MBB so I wouldn't say it was either or both, but at minimum Heather had to agree and carry it out.

I agree with both of you guys simultaneously. I could see the ADs coming down hard on Murphy and demanding changes. And Murphy turning around and saying he is willing to make changes.

I think in the end, we all thought changes were needed. Brown and White got scapegoated by the process rather than by the coach or AD. At least this is my hunch.

I'm not sure I'd use the term 'scapegoated' but after last season, it would seem reasonable that not all personnel, from HC to ass't coaches would be held blameless.

The bigger question, in my opinion, is how the assistant coaches were assessed? coaching? recruiting? relating?

Looking forward, this does affect recruiting as Brown and White were out front recruiting wise.

I'm curious who recruited/recruiting Epps?

Going back to some posts with EagleSam, I believe, assuming Epps stays committed, that we have only one scholarship to give. Therefore there isn't much 2017 recruiting left to do.
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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
(03-21-2017 03:37 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:21 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 01:04 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 12:00 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.

I disagree. This has the finger prints of the AD's office on it.

I don't know the interactions of Heather and Christian in their oversight of MBB so I wouldn't say it was either or both, but at minimum Heather had to agree and carry it out.

I agree with both of you guys simultaneously. I could see the ADs coming down hard on Murphy and demanding changes. And Murphy turning around and saying he is willing to make changes.

I think in the end, we all thought changes were needed. Brown and White got scapegoated by the process rather than by the coach or AD. At least this is my hunch.

I'm not sure I'd use the term 'scapegoated' but after last season, it would seem reasonable that not all personnel, from HC to ass't coaches would be held blameless.

The bigger question, in my opinion, is how the assistant coaches were assessed? coaching? recruiting? relating?

Looking forward, this does affect recruiting as Brown and White were out front recruiting wise.

I'm curious who recruited/recruiting Epps?

Going back to some posts with EagleSam, I believe, assuming Epps stays committed, that we have only one scholarship to give. Therefore there isn't much 2017 recruiting left to do.

Yep, but I can't imagine everyone from our roster returning. I wouldn't be shocked if either LWH or Madray transferred to play their final season elsewhere, since front court minutes will be at a premium with Minnie becoming eligible.

I bet we end up with 2 scholarships to use that will go to Malik Ellison and a JUCO shooting guard.

EDIT: And if that scenario ends up being the case, this will be Murphy's largest incoming freshmen class in his tenure. Silver, Epps, Ellison, and (technically) Groce. The future would be pretty bright.
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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
Unless perhaps the AD were aware of internal conflicts between coaches or players and coaches or some compliance issue again sheer speculation interesting to see how Murphy fits the spots any idea of possible names?
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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
(03-21-2017 03:45 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:37 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:21 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 01:04 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 12:00 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing to go on, but if I had to guess, I would say Murphy wanted to prove to the department he wanted changes so badly (so that he keeps his job) that he even fired his friend (Brown) and White too.

I disagree. This has the finger prints of the AD's office on it.

I don't know the interactions of Heather and Christian in their oversight of MBB so I wouldn't say it was either or both, but at minimum Heather had to agree and carry it out.

I agree with both of you guys simultaneously. I could see the ADs coming down hard on Murphy and demanding changes. And Murphy turning around and saying he is willing to make changes.

I think in the end, we all thought changes were needed. Brown and White got scapegoated by the process rather than by the coach or AD. At least this is my hunch.

I'm not sure I'd use the term 'scapegoated' but after last season, it would seem reasonable that not all personnel, from HC to ass't coaches would be held blameless.

The bigger question, in my opinion, is how the assistant coaches were assessed? coaching? recruiting? relating?

Looking forward, this does affect recruiting as Brown and White were out front recruiting wise.

I'm curious who recruited/recruiting Epps?

Going back to some posts with EagleSam, I believe, assuming Epps stays committed, that we have only one scholarship to give. Therefore there isn't much 2017 recruiting left to do.

Yep, but I can't imagine everyone from our roster returning. I wouldn't be shocked if either LWH or Madray transferred to play their final season elsewhere, since front court minutes will be at a premium with Minnie becoming eligible.

I bet we end up with 2 scholarships to use that will go to Malik Ellison and a JUCO shooting guard.

EDIT: And if that scenario ends up being the case, this will be Murphy's largest incoming freshmen class in his tenure. Silver, Epps, Ellison, and (technically) Groce. The future would be pretty bright.

As far as Madray and LWH.

I assume there is a good chance that Madray will graduate this year and could be a graduate eligible.

That said, Madray did not have a good season (vis-a-vis what he did at Binghamton) and I wonder how much D-I interest he'd get.
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RE: Unofficial 2017/18 Off Season MBB's Thread
Jodan Price and Kellen McCormick didn't set the world on fire in the MAC either, and they ended up at Georgia Tech. If Madray was to grad transfer, he'd find a home quickly. Coaches would rather take on a 1-year rental big man that already has a developed body, even if he rides the bench.
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