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(03-21-2017 11:30 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  What you're saying is the letter of the law is more important than the spirit of the law.

That a good try, but it doesn't work for this simple reason: if the spirit really were that much more encompassing, then they would've just written that.

So, we must go by the letter.


(03-22-2017 06:59 AM)bullet Wrote:  in a way that they can't get an alternative.

Pure nonsense.

They leave and go somewhere else.
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(03-22-2017 08:59 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 11:30 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  What you're saying is the letter of the law is more important than the spirit of the law.

That a good try, but it doesn't work for this simple reason: if the spirit really were that much more encompassing, then they would've just written that.

So, we must go by the letter.


(03-22-2017 06:59 AM)bullet Wrote:  in a way that they can't get an alternative.

Pure nonsense.

They leave and go somewhere else.

By pretending to do it and putting off your "I can't get it done by that date" to the last minute you make it very difficult for them.
You are just saying that your preference would be to act like a jerk.
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(03-22-2017 09:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  to the last minute

I didn't say, or intend, it to be the last minute. That you took it that way, is not my problem.


(03-22-2017 09:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  You are just saying that your preference would be to act like a jerk.

Discriminating is being a jerk.


Guess you're damned if you do, damned if you don't!


Problem here is that you're taking the Texan cattle rancher, "I'm gunna tel ya to yur face straight", with a big dip in, sensibility as if that's the gold standard. Far from it, I'm afraid.
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(03-22-2017 09:15 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  You are just saying that your preference would be to act like a jerk.

Discriminating is being a jerk.

And in your scenario you are discriminating, dictionary.com if you need help....

The difference is you are lying about it where as someone who says off the bat "I'm not the baker for you" is being honest.
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(03-22-2017 10:06 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  And in your scenario you are discriminating

No I wasn't. It was just unfortunate, bad service.

Prove otherwise.
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(03-22-2017 10:46 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 10:06 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  And in your scenario you are discriminating

No I wasn't. It was just unfortunate, bad service.

Prove otherwise.

Again, this speaks to your character. In this conversation you admitted that was the reason you would do it... You will lie, flippantly, tyo avoid trouble.

It would *kill* me to do that to a gay couple... String them along so I'm legally covered and then screw them up. And, in the end, they can still sue your ass off because civil suits are not based on "beyond a reasonable doubt".

All they would have to do is find one customer you took on after that call whose wedding was aroudn the same time as theirs.
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(03-22-2017 10:52 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  they can still sue your ass off because civil suits are not based on "beyond a reasonable doubt".

All they would have to do is find one customer you took on after that call whose wedding was aroudn the same time as theirs.

Anyone can sue anyone, for any reason, regardless of truth. Do you have evidence, meeting or exceeding the standard for the circumstance, is the only question.


Maybe this is better yet: they come in asking for a cake with "Trump Makes America Great". I then deliver a cake, on time, that says "America the Beautiful". They're free to suck it up and take it, or send it back. In which case, it'll take me another couple of days to put them back into the rotation.
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(03-22-2017 11:09 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 10:52 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  they can still sue your ass off because civil suits are not based on "beyond a reasonable doubt".

All they would have to do is find one customer you took on after that call whose wedding was aroudn the same time as theirs.

Anyone can sue anyone, for any reason, regardless of truth. Do you have evidence, meeting or exceeding the standard for the circumstance, is the only question.


Maybe this is better yet: they come in asking for a cake with "Trump Makes America Great". I then deliver a cake, on time, that says "America the Beautiful". They're free to suck it up and take it, or send it back. In which case, it'll take me another couple of days to put them back into the rotation.

You're a bad person, and I'm done with this discussion. You will lie and discriminate against people with a sneer and sense that you're better than them "so it's ok".

You are everything wrong with social justice warriors.
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(03-22-2017 11:28 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  You're a bad person

You desire to discriminate against people, right to their faces, and pretend to take moral high ground on top of that.

Please don't talk to be about being a bad person.

You are everything that is wrong with Christian conservatives.
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