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WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...-a-chance/

Glad to see a major media outlet write this. The lack of upsets in the 1st round has made this year's tournament one of the most boring in recent memory.

The reason America is infatuated with the tournament (even non-sports fans) is because people love to see the cinderella upset in the first couple days and then that one mid-major team make a deep run. People want to see games like MTSU over Michigan St, Northern Iowa over Texas, UAB over Iowa St, etc. 1st round match ups of Wisconsin vs VT and Michigan vs Oklahoma St are pretty boring. I can see games like this every night during the regular season so why should I care about these 1st round match ups?

If the selection committee doesn't change its methods at least a little bit, it will squander its golden goose. I'm hopeful their move to consider metrics other than RPI like KenPom, Sagarin, etc will help, but I'll believe it when I see it.

It would be great if the NCAA mandated that every major conference team had to play at least one road game at a non-P5 school. 03-cloud9
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
My solution :

No more than half your conference, and a max of 6 teams from one conference.

Each team must have a .600 or better winning % in conference play, including their conference tournament. .595 won't cut it. If your team is 11-7 going into the conference tourney, you better win at least one.

If you win your conference regular season title but fail in the conference​ tournament , you are guaranteed a bid in the play in game if you aren't an at large candidate. Teams here are subject to the prior rule, if you aren't .600 or better in conference, you stay home, but you do get an NIT Auto bid.

NFL type scheduling- each year, a top 10 rpi conference must play a home and home with one team from 2 designated local conferences from the lower 22 conferences weighted by RPI.

i.e. last years #4 SEC team = #5 conference​ RPI - plays OVC team #4 last season H&H, AND plays A-SUN #4 team H & H. And the ncaa mandates the play dates. Dont make a play date, you're not going dancing.

Teams qualifying for the NCAA are ranked by winning %, and no other criteria is used. Your team is 33-1, then you get a #1 seed. No matter the conference you came from. Your team is 18-14, but the selection committee thought you needed to be there (Mich. St), then you get a 16 seed.

2nd, 3rd & 4th place teams from every conference not in the ncaas get an auto bid into the nit if they are over .600 in all games.
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
This is a serious problem. They have every conceivable advantage, some of them cheat, they either refuse to play you all together or they will only play you at their place, even when they play you they want their own officials sometimes and as I have stated in the past access for NP teams is getting harder and harder almost to the point of exclusion.

The NCAA needs to step in and fix this. If not them someone does.

If you are not in a power league the Committee does not care what you have done. You better win your league tournament or you are not getting in.
03-19-2017 11:14 AM
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
The NCAA is not interested in fairness between member schools but is interested in TV ratings which it feels depend upon having the usual top teams play as long as possible in their tournament.

If its priority was competition, it would have #1 play a closer seed than #16. It could set up #1 to play #9, #2 play #10 on to #8 playing #16 so that the same gap prevailed across the board.

it could also facilitate top P5 teams playing top G5 teams H&H but don't hold your breath on that one. The top P5 teams like having about 1/3 of their schedule guaranteed wins so they can concentrate on the 2 or 3 competitive teams they can't duck.
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
in a rare twist, i'll agree with BnBF. the only reason the NCAA would step in is if the NCAA cared. they dont. they care about dollar signs...not about the students, not about the institutions, not about fairness or competition.
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
The NCAA wants five or six mid majors to advance out of their opening rounds to create the Cinderella effect. When people complain and claim it is a conspiracy that two mid majors are matched up so one will be eliminated, I agree that it is a conspiracy but it is to make sure one advances. They want five or six mid majors to sell the Cinderella story.

However, they want all of those Cinderellaa gone by the second weekend. That is when the big boys are supposed to take over.
03-19-2017 03:16 PM
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
Just like in every competitive league, all teams should play an equal number of home and away games.
Road wins should count more than 1.4 wins in RPI and should be based on actual road wins during the season. If road teams only win 20% of the time they should be valued at 1.8 wins and home losses should count as 1.8 losses. It is tough to win on the road!
Home wins would only be .2 wins under that scenario vs the current .6.
This would eliminate the advantage of buying home games and drive teams to schedule more road games.
The adjustment would be based on current status of home vs road wins and would be adjusted daily.
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
All good, except the RPI doesn't really have very much to do with who gets in the tournament any more. The RPI is a distraction for the fans while the committee picks and choose who they want to get in.
03-19-2017 03:34 PM
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
Obviously the selection criteria would need to favor road wins and not who you beat. Winning on the road at WKU, Charlotte, UTEP, UAB, ODU, La Tech, MTSU, Rice, and Marshall must be tough because nobody wants to play those teams on the road.
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RE: WaPo Article on Mid-Major Tournament Access
(03-18-2017 12:46 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  My solution :

No more than half your conference, and a max of 6 teams from one conference.

Each team must have a .600 or better winning % in conference play, including their conference tournament. .595 won't cut it. If your team is 11-7 going into the conference tourney, you better win at least one.

If you win your conference regular season title but fail in the conference​ tournament , you are guaranteed a bid in the play in game if you aren't an at large candidate. Teams here are subject to the prior rule, if you aren't .600 or better in conference, you stay home, but you do get an NIT Auto bid.

NFL type scheduling- each year, a top 10 rpi conference must play a home and home with one team from 2 designated local conferences from the lower 22 conferences weighted by RPI.

i.e. last years #4 SEC team = #5 conference​ RPI - plays OVC team #4 last season H&H, AND plays A-SUN #4 team H & H. And the ncaa mandates the play dates. Dont make a play date, you're not going dancing.

Teams qualifying for the NCAA are ranked by winning %, and no other criteria is used. Your team is 33-1, then you get a #1 seed. No matter the conference you came from. Your team is 18-14, but the selection committee thought you needed to be there (Mich. St), then you get a 16 seed.

2nd, 3rd & 4th place teams from every conference not in the ncaas get an auto bid into the nit if they are over .600 in all games.

Never, ever blindly allow the conference champ in if they lose in their tournament. When every Smaller conference does this, then what? Why wouldn't you tank for extra credits?

I'm good with half a conference max. I know people harped on Vandy, but I want their schedule encouraged.

There are simple rules that could be put in place that would help things. Only half of your non conference games can be home games is where I would start. I'd love to see what that would do.
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