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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
The ACC just settled all its TV issues. They won't be expanding any time soon. On top of that ESPN gets Cincy n UConn for 1.8 mil per year, even with a decent bump in price, likely under 7 mil per year. Why would they want to pay them each 20 mil.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
ACC Pods (WAC 16 Style)
NE Pod: BC, Cuse, Uconn, Pitt
Central Pod: Louisville, Cincinnati, Virginia, VT
Carolina Pod: UNC, NCSU, Wake, Duke
Southern Pod: Clemson, GT, Florida, FSU
Central & Carolina Pods rotate every 2 years. NE & Southern Pods never move
Notre Dame gives the ACC 17 for hoops. 20 game schedule allows for each school to play 4 H&H games with rivals and 1 game with everyone else.
Cheers!
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
The answer is no, and it works for the OP and all the subsequent divisional alignments.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
Sans the Big Ten or SEC taking ACC schools -- obviously I'm taking about far in the future, here -- neither UConn nor Cincy has any chance.
UConn needs to join the Big East as a full member, and play football as an Indy.
It has worked for BYU, and it would work for UConn.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 11:31 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Sans the Big Ten or SEC taking ACC schools -- obviously I'm taking about far in the future, here -- neither UConn nor Cincy has any chance.
UConn needs to join the Big East as a full member, and play football as an Indy.
It has worked for BYU, and it would work for UConn.
Maybe. I tend to think this marginalizes UConn football as they would have no real chance of any major bowl. I think they would be better off with Big East basketball/MAC football membership. That gives them a winnable football league and the theoretical route to a NYD Bowl. Basketball would obviously be in a great situation in the Big East.
If they cant get the BE/MAC combo---I'd push for a basketball expansion in the AAC significant enough to upgrade the AAC to near Big East quality. If the AAC adds Wichita, VCU, and Dayton---the AAC becomes a basketball league that is close enough to Big East quality that UConn's lead sport of basketball will be safe from harm (yet, it allows UConn to keep their football in the top G5 conference with the best G5 TV exposure in the nation).
That's a much better profile for a school striving for one of the last seats on the P5 bus whenever it leaves the station.
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 01:37 PM by Attackcoog.)
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
ACC would want Notre Dame's football in as well for tv package. That is why they will invite UConn, Cincinnati and Navy for all sports and invite Notre Dame's football. That makes an 18 team conference.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
Once UConn gets an idea what the AAC's next tv deal is worth I think they will have a much clearer image of where their future lies.
If the AAC tv numbers are good then they should stay there. They could even consider campaigning to get Wichita St, Dayton, and VCU added to the conference to boost its basketball reputation.
If the tv numbers aren't good then the obvious choice is lobbying to get into the Big East. Football independence works for BYU and I imagine that most of the Power 5 will consider an independent Husky football team as a P5.
I think they can put together a decent schedule will programs like BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, WVU, Penn St, Maryland, Temple, UMass, and Army serving as regional foes and fellow indies BYU, NMSU, and Liberty would be there to help fill those difficult November dates.
Both routes position them to move to the ACC if the opportunity ever presents itself.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 02:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote: ACC would want Notre Dame's football in as well for tv package. That is why they will invite UConn, Cincinnati and Navy for all sports and invite Notre Dame's football. That makes an 18 team conference.
None of any of this is going to happen.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-18-2017 02:29 PM)Wolfman Wrote: (03-18-2017 02:19 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: Also, to the clown(s) who suggested Navy will be getting #16 in the very unlikely event ND decides to forsake their (faux) independence...the Cleveland Browns have a better chance of winning Super Bowl 51 than Navy getting an ACC invite.
Add me to the clown list. I don't think Navy will be #16 but I don't think they are a bad choice. National reputation. Good academics. Located in the MD/DC area. Relationship with Notre Dame. Military academy. Army/Navy game(s).
I don't think they are on the top of the list but I believe they are on the list.
Sign me up for Clown Shoes, too.
ND is not going to join the ACC for football, but if that unlikely event ever happened, I would like to see Navy (football only) and Georgetown added to the ACC at that time.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:12 PM)TerryD Wrote: (03-18-2017 02:29 PM)Wolfman Wrote: (03-18-2017 02:19 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: Also, to the clown(s) who suggested Navy will be getting #16 in the very unlikely event ND decides to forsake their (faux) independence...the Cleveland Browns have a better chance of winning Super Bowl 51 than Navy getting an ACC invite.
Add me to the clown list. I don't think Navy will be #16 but I don't think they are a bad choice. National reputation. Good academics. Located in the MD/DC area. Relationship with Notre Dame. Military academy. Army/Navy game(s).
I don't think they are on the top of the list but I believe they are on the list.
Sign me up for Clown Shoes, too.
ND is not going to join the ACC for football, but if that unlikely event ever happened, I would like to see Navy (football only) and Georgetown added to the ACC at that time.
If Notre Dame ever joined the ACC, I always thought Navy made the most sense. It opens up an OOC game for both.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
I don't think Navy could compete in the ACC. I think the more likely option if Notre Dame ever agreed to full membership would be to find a 16th full member, likely Cincinnati, UConn, or an outside chance of Temple.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:12 PM)TerryD Wrote: (03-18-2017 02:29 PM)Wolfman Wrote: (03-18-2017 02:19 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: Also, to the clown(s) who suggested Navy will be getting #16 in the very unlikely event ND decides to forsake their (faux) independence...the Cleveland Browns have a better chance of winning Super Bowl 51 than Navy getting an ACC invite.
Add me to the clown list. I don't think Navy will be #16 but I don't think they are a bad choice. National reputation. Good academics. Located in the MD/DC area. Relationship with Notre Dame. Military academy. Army/Navy game(s).
I don't think they are on the top of the list but I believe they are on the list.
Sign me up for Clown Shoes, too.
ND is not going to join the ACC for football, but if that unlikely event ever happened, I would like to see Navy (football only) and Georgetown added to the ACC at that time.
I have like that idea as well but I don't think the ACC will offer Non-football again. I should have stated if ND wants Navy then Navy it will be. I think Houston should be the target for the Texas and TV market if there is a 16th for all sports. Still not likely for anything to happen until B12 GOR is up. UCONN window was missed when Louisville was brought in. Big East is best location for UCONN Basketball.
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Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:30 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: I don't think Navy could compete in the ACC. I think the more likely option if Notre Dame ever agreed to full membership would be to find a 16th full member, likely Cincinnati, UConn, or an outside chance of Temple.
Agreed. When has Navy ever expressed an interest in going to a power conference anyway? Their mission is completely different.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:30 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: I don't think Navy could compete in the ACC.
Not in the sense of regularly being in the hunt to be in a bowl game ... not as well as in the American, no.
Quote: I think the more likely option if Notre Dame ever agreed to full membership would be to find a 16th full member, likely Cincinnati, UConn, or an outside chance of Temple.
That's about it, with the low odds of the Notre Dame deciding to abandon that making it low odds overall, but the commitment from Notre Dame to go to the ACC if they go into a conference holding that spot open.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:30 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: I don't think Navy could compete in the ACC.
They probably can't. The problem is the football schools don't believe UConn could complete either. Thus Louisville is a member of the ACC. Unless I've missed it nothing has changed on UConn's end.
The only thing Navy has going for it is at least they have a built in national fanbase.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 05:12 PM)TerryD Wrote: I would like to see Navy (football only) and Georgetown added to the ACC at that time.
Gtown wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole.
Not after what happened in the old Big East.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 08:25 PM)MplsBison Wrote: (03-19-2017 05:12 PM)TerryD Wrote: I would like to see Navy (football only) and Georgetown added to the ACC at that time.
Gtown wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole.
Not after what happened in the old Big East.
Agreed. For the first time possibly ever, the Big East is not at threat of being poached by another conference. That title has seemingly been taken by both the Big 12 and the American.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
[My first comment on this thread. Haven't read the other comments.]
UConn and UC would both be great additions to the ACC, and could pull their weight (and then some) both athletically and financially. But from the ACC's standpoint, that's not enough reason to pull the trigger.
I think the ACC's membership is set in stone for the next 20-30 years and probably beyond that. Only thing that could disrupt the status quo is if Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, etc. were willing to join. No disrespect but the Huskies and Bearcats are just not on that level.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-19-2017 10:37 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [My first comment on this thread. Haven't read the other comments.]
UConn and UC would both be great additions to the ACC, and could pull their weight (and then some) both athletically and financially. But from the ACC's standpoint, that's not enough reason to pull the trigger.
I think the ACC's membership is set in stone for the next 20-30 years and probably beyond that. Only thing that could disrupt the status quo is if Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, etc. were willing to join. No disrespect but the Huskies and Bearcats are just not on that level.
UConn can't pull their weight in football, thus can't pull their weight overall in the ACC. The math has been done and the ACC picked Louisville despite the bad academics.
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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
Navy cane beat over half the ACC in football. They even beat Notre Dame.
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