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(03-18-2017 04:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 01:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  One university's attorney admitted to the NCAA that the school used an ineligible player.

What were they supposed to say. The ETS had already invalidated the test after the fact and the NCAA had retroactively declared him ineligible.

The only argument that could have been made is that the violations was out of the control of the school and school acted in good faith. Same argument that KU made..

How about, "The NCAA clearinghouse determined he was eligible."

You didn't even have to pay me for that.
03-18-2017 06:34 PM
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They cleared him twice.
03-18-2017 06:47 PM
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I would pay someone to go back in time and change it.
03-18-2017 07:24 PM
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(03-18-2017 05:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:22 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 12:54 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Tell me, where is sanity?

Yeah, I'd love to change the world.

good luck

Thanks. Maybe ten years after.
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(03-18-2017 07:25 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 05:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:22 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 12:54 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Tell me, where is sanity?

Yeah, I'd love to change the world.

good luck

Thanks. Maybe ten years after.

I'll leave it up to you.
03-18-2017 07:27 PM
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RE: Ten years later
(03-18-2017 06:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 01:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  One university's attorney admitted to the NCAA that the school used an ineligible player.

What were they supposed to say. The ETS had already invalidated the test after the fact and the NCAA had retroactively declared him ineligible.

The only argument that could have been made is that the violations was out of the control of the school and school acted in good faith. Same argument that KU made..

How about, "The NCAA clearinghouse determined he was eligible."

You didn't even have to pay me for that.

Irrelevant. As soon as the testing center invalidated the test all other arguments were null and void.

Everything that happened before that means nothing. The invalidation of the test made it a moot point to try and argue.

Rose could easily win a case against testing center but chose to not do it. He was finished and it no longer effected him.
03-18-2017 08:11 PM
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(03-18-2017 08:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 06:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 01:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  One university's attorney admitted to the NCAA that the school used an ineligible player.

What were they supposed to say. The ETS had already invalidated the test after the fact and the NCAA had retroactively declared him ineligible.

The only argument that could have been made is that the violations was out of the control of the school and school acted in good faith. Same argument that KU made..

How about, "The NCAA clearinghouse determined he was eligible."

You didn't even have to pay me for that.

Irrelevant. As soon as the testing center invalidated the test all other arguments were null and void.

Everything that happened before that means nothing. The invalidation of the test made it a moot point to try and argue.

Rose could easily win a case against testing center but chose to not do it. He was finished and it no longer effected him.

Our lawyer agreed with you completely. You could have argued our case just as well as she did and saved us 50 grand.
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RE: Ten years later
(03-18-2017 08:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 08:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 06:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 01:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  One university's attorney admitted to the NCAA that the school used an ineligible player.

What were they supposed to say. The ETS had already invalidated the test after the fact and the NCAA had retroactively declared him ineligible.

The only argument that could have been made is that the violations was out of the control of the school and school acted in good faith. Same argument that KU made..

How about, "The NCAA clearinghouse determined he was eligible."

You didn't even have to pay me for that.

Irrelevant. As soon as the testing center invalidated the test all other arguments were null and void.

Everything that happened before that means nothing. The invalidation of the test made it a moot point to try and argue.

Rose could easily win a case against testing center but chose to not do it. He was finished and it no longer effected him.

Our lawyer agreed with you completely. You could have argued our case just as well as she did and saved us 50 grand.

It did cause the NCAA to have to create a new charge which had never been used before and never used since in order punish the Tigers. A ruling which could and should have been used against KU. Strict Liability.

The only actual rules broken was that we did not charge Rose's brother credit card for trips and he was allowed to stay in same hotel room as Rose.

And there were several boosters whose credit cards were not charged for trips due to bad bookkeeping.
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RE: Ten years later
(03-18-2017 08:28 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 08:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 08:11 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 06:34 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 04:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  What were they supposed to say. The ETS had already invalidated the test after the fact and the NCAA had retroactively declared him ineligible.

The only argument that could have been made is that the violations was out of the control of the school and school acted in good faith. Same argument that KU made..

How about, "The NCAA clearinghouse determined he was eligible."

You didn't even have to pay me for that.

Irrelevant. As soon as the testing center invalidated the test all other arguments were null and void.

Everything that happened before that means nothing. The invalidation of the test made it a moot point to try and argue.

Rose could easily win a case against testing center but chose to not do it. He was finished and it no longer effected him.

Our lawyer agreed with you completely. You could have argued our case just as well as she did and saved us 50 grand.

It did cause the NCAA to have to create a new charge which had never been used before and never used since in order punish the Tigers. A ruling which could and should have been used against KU. Strict Liability.

The only actual rules broken was that we did not charge Rose's brother credit card for trips and he was allowed to stay in same hotel room as Rose.

And there were several boosters whose credit cards were not charged for trips due to bad bookkeeping.

The unnecessary admission that Rose was ineligible made the strict liability charge stick like a tic. It was a silly, diarrhea of the mouth moment that sank the university's whole effort, and was one of the worst legal representations ever offered in defense of a Division 1 program.
03-18-2017 08:35 PM
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