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If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?

A couple of ideas would be Murray State and Belmont. Who else?

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03-17-2017 09:01 PM
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
Valparaiso and UIC after Missouri State also bolts.
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
(03-17-2017 10:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  Valparaiso and UIC after Missouri State also bolts.

Agree with Valpo and UIC as likely targets (as the MVC demographically needs a bigger presence in the Chicago area), but I wouldn't assume that Missouri State bolts (AKA I don't think they're moving up to FBS).
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
Should? 3 criteria: quality hoops, venue & travelling fan base.
Only 3 fit those criteria: North Dakota St, Murray St, Northern Kentucky.

Any other add will bust.
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
(03-17-2017 11:11 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 10:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  Valparaiso and UIC after Missouri State also bolts.

Agree with Valpo and UIC as likely targets (as the MVC demographically needs a bigger presence in the Chicago area), but I wouldn't assume that Missouri State bolts (AKA I don't think they're moving up to FBS).

Missouri State is in an awkward spot if Wichita State leaves.

Since they joined the Valley, the league has lost Tulsa and Creighton. The replacements (UNI, Evanston, Loyola) are all on the northern or eastern edge of the league away from Missouri State.

The only leagues in the neighborhood close to the Valley in the power ratings or better that aren't power 5 are the AAC and Sun Belt. CUSA has been pretty lousy outside of MTSU the past couple years so you could toss them in on potential to improve. But all three are FBS leagues (though Sun Belt does have two non-football members and AAC apparently entertaining the thought).

CUSA at 14 seems unlikely to expand. The AAC chatter is the league is looking at schools with better hoops resumes.

Sun Belt offers the best travel situation with AState and Ark-LR short drives away.drives away but given the current state of Missouri State hoops, it is improbable that the Sun Belt would make Missouri State number 13 in hoops without a number 14 in the east, the league struggled to find it's 10th football /12th hoops in the east. Also seems unlikely that the Sun Belt would take the Bears unless there was a plan and timetable for FBS.

The best obviously available to be 12th/14 is New Mexico State but that would create a division mess.

Missouri State's best option appears to be working to help the Valley find a replacement for Wichita State.
03-18-2017 01:58 AM
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
If Missouri State does bolt, lets say to SBC with a North Florida adding football later to go 12/14 in the future?

Drury could replace Missouri State since they are in the same town.
Lindenwood have been rumor of going to D1. They are in the Saint Louis tv market.
Bellarmine could move all of their sports to D1. They already have Men's LAX in Southern Conference. Louisville market is good.

Drury and Bellarmine does have a much better RPI in hoops than most of D1 schools.

Arkansas Tech also have great hoops for both men and women.

Central Oklahoma University could be an interesting choice to take to replace the Tulsa tv market since they are more like a suburbs of Oklahoma City.

Rockhurst and UMKC could be both interesting choices since they both are in the KC market.

Washburn could be a welcome back member. Washburn was a former MVC member back in the 1935 to up to 1942.

Central Arkansas is an affiliate member.
Dallas Baptist could bring back a Texas tv market.
Little Rock is also an affiliate.
SIU-Edwardsville is also an affiliate.

Former members:
Detroit Mercy
Washington, Mo.
West Texas A&M (which could be paired with New Mexico State in hoops.)
Former affiliates:
Belmont
Drury
03-18-2017 02:19 AM
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
I rescind my earlier comment. The Valley should add Arkansas Tech to provide Missouri St with a geographical rival, expand the television footprint of the league, and upgrade the conference's hoops profile.
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
(03-18-2017 01:58 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 11:11 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 10:52 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  Valparaiso and UIC after Missouri State also bolts.

Agree with Valpo and UIC as likely targets (as the MVC demographically needs a bigger presence in the Chicago area), but I wouldn't assume that Missouri State bolts (AKA I don't think they're moving up to FBS).

Missouri State's best option appears to be working to help the Valley find a replacement for Wichita State.

That leaves Saint Louis, UMKC, Oral Roberts, Little Rock, and Southeast Missouri State. SLU isn't coming. Oral Roberts is a private. Little Rock doesn't have enough sports and stretches the geography south, SEMO has a football problem. So its basically UMKC.
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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
Ohio should throw its hat into the ring for the MVC.

1) More tradition than the MAC in basketball. No MAC team has ever made it to the Final Four in the 70 year history of the league.

2) A better TV deal for basketball in the MVC with CBS OTA coverage.

3) Easier to get P5's and High major schools to play you in your arena.

4) Go Indy in football and get out of the Midweek MAC contract. The difference in Saturday game attendance is 24k vs. 17k. It would be possible to finish up the season well before Thanksgiving Break and have Saturday home games in November.

With so many bowl games a G5 doesn't need to be in a conference to get one anymore.

5) Local TV rights in football. Ohio had a local deal with a Columbus station before the first MAC Midweek contract but had to give it that up.

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RE: If Wichita State does go to the AAC, who should replace them?
I would think for any Midwest basketball school a conference where Loyola, Bradley, Illinois State and SIU are all playing is the place to be because of Illinois recruiting.

The MAC has NIU

The Horizon has UIC

The Summit has WIU

But those are hardly Illinois based conferences.
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