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RE: TROY vs Duke gameday thread
Did anyone here expect Troy to beat the hottest team in the nation? And what could be the national champion? Troy played pretty hard and actually did better against Duke than I thought.

Heck, Troy was still in the game at halftime, and that was with Duke shooting 59% from 3-point range in the first half, and 53% overall. Not bad if you think about it. Nobody is going to outshoot Duke from the perimeter in the Big Dance...
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(03-18-2017 05:40 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  I've heard this both ways... we won the regular season in 2010 but WKU won the tourney. WKU fans will claim 2010 they were SBC champs as I had a debate with one of their fans Years back. Either way both schools will have a SBC champions banner in their arena somewhere.

We may or may not be the preseason favorites next year but I think they will have us top 3.

Was this they year there was a three way tie for #1? Despite what WKU fans say, Troy was one of the SBC co-champions of that year; WKU was SBC Tournament champions. Don't read this with a negative tone, but I hold the regular season champ with more esteem, because they finished on top over the course of 16-18-20 games (depending on season) and not over 3-4 games in a tournament where you could miss several teams you don't match up well against. But March is called a new season for a reason and Troy did what it had to in order to make the Dance.

I'm just glad the Troy players didn't get tripped during the game since they were playing Grayson Allen and the Blue Devils. Lol
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I believe the regular season champ should count for more than a bye game in the tourney. Yes, UTA is the SBC champs, we (Troy) just happened to win the tourney which = a spot in the Ncaa tourney.

Troy played to their potential in the 2nd half of the conf schedule. Troy will look more like they did in the second half next year than they did in the first half.

UTA deserved an-large in the NCAA tourney.
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(03-18-2017 08:07 AM)moehler Wrote:  don't understand all the hate towards Troy, they kicked ass in the tournament, and got the job done while everyone else failed. If your going to be upset, look at your own team. Now, as far as the NCAA tournament, I didn't expect them to win but I thought they would atleast give Duke a better game. Anyway, the important thing now is MTSU gets beat today, cant have a CUSA team making a run in the tournament.

I have them in the sweet 16 in my bracket. They better win
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(03-18-2017 08:07 AM)moehler Wrote:  don't understand all the hate towards Troy, they kicked ass in the tournament, and got the job done while everyone else failed. If your going to be upset, look at your own team. Now, as far as the NCAA tournament, I didn't expect them to win but I thought they would atleast give Duke a better game. Anyway, the important thing now is MTSU gets beat today, cant have a CUSA team making a run in the tournament.


My guess is the Ark St fans on here are butt hurt because they told us how good they were during the season and then went out of the tournament with barely a whimper.
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(03-18-2017 12:24 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  I believe the regular season champ should count for more than a bye game in the tourney. Yes, UTA is the SBC champs, we (Troy) just happened to win the tourney which = a spot in the Ncaa tourney.

Troy played to their potential in the 2nd half of the conf schedule. Troy will look more like they did in the second half next year than they did in the first half.

UTA deserved an-large in the NCAA tourney.

Troy is going to be very good next season. Only three players graduate. We get back 4 of 5 starters... Varnado, Person, Baker, and Davis Jr. I don't think the other starter (Walker) will be a huge loss, mainly because he was never a shooting threat. Cunningham had him in their primarily for rebounds and an occasional layup.

Biggest loss will be Hollimon. Even though he wasn't a starter, he was the best player off the bench by far. The third graduate, Peace, should be replaceable... I never thought he was very good.
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(03-18-2017 01:08 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 12:24 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  I believe the regular season champ should count for more than a bye game in the tourney. Yes, UTA is the SBC champs, we (Troy) just happened to win the tourney which = a spot in the Ncaa tourney.

Troy played to their potential in the 2nd half of the conf schedule. Troy will look more like they did in the second half next year than they did in the first half.

UTA deserved an-large in the NCAA tourney.

Troy is going to be very good next season. Only three players graduate. We get back 4 of 5 starters... Varnado, Person, Baker, and Davis Jr. I don't think the other starter (Walker) will be a huge loss, mainly because he was never a shooting threat. Cunningham had him in their primarily for rebounds and an occasional layup.

Biggest loss will be Hollimon. Even though he wasn't a starter, he was the best player off the bench by far. The third graduate, Peace, should be replaceable... I never thought he was very good.

Hicks will be the one to watch. If he plays the way he's capable of playing they could be very good.




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(03-18-2017 12:24 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  UTA deserved an-large in the NCAA tourney.

I posted on the USA board I REALLY wish UTA could have made it into the tournament because they could have won a game or two. It's a shame they were so close and didn't get in.
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Troy deserves all the credit in the world for winning the conference tourney, even if it was "hot at the right time". They also deserve credit for achieving the conference record they did, albeit on the wrong side of an unbalanced conference schedule. They got all the top dogs twice, both Georgias, UTA, and Ark St. (Coastal was in the same boat. I'd be the first CCU fan my own would point to as being the most disappointed in our inaugural season, but I will at least pay heed to the fact we had a tough row to hoe.)

There were some who fared better in the regular season, and were patting themselves on the back despite getting the top dogs only once each. It wasn't a surprise when they didn't fare well in that late stretch of games vs better teams, nor when they went out of the tourney early.

So I'm not gonna bash Troy at all. They earned it. Does it mean I thought they were the best team to represent us? No. Still think overall, on any given day, with the resume they had, UTA was our best chance. But the way it works is tourney winner goes. That's why I agree, and have stated previously, that you gotta set up your conference tourney to more heavily favor your top team, whether via home games, or multiple byes. A lower conference needs its best rep.

Troy played admirably, yes, but it was Duke, and they deserved a "Duke". If UTA wins and goes, they don't get a "Duke". That's what we need for the Sun Belt, winnable games, not a "Duke". It's worked for us before, and UTA could been in Rhode Islands shoes and beat a Creighton. Heck, Troy might beat them too with how well they were playing... but Troy, or any non-conference 3,4,5, or 6 Sun Belt seed would never get that chance.
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(03-18-2017 01:17 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 12:24 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  UTA deserved an-large in the NCAA tourney.

I posted on the USA board I REALLY wish UTA could have made it into the tournament because they could have won a game or two. It's a shame they were so close and didn't get in.

You know, I get the UTA love . .. . But you saying they could "win a game or two" in the tournament, is just supposition . . . .

They lost twice to us this season, and once when it counted most (the tournament).
Yeah, they had a good season . . But not good enough.
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