RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-17-2017 10:56 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
So by that logic we should keep them the hell away from Western cultures.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-18-2017 06:53 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:56 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
So by that logic we should keep them the hell away from Western cultures.
I'm fine leaving them to their own devices in the ME or south asia. But the way they want a society to go is incompatible with liberty.
yet, we are embedded housing various cultures....
the issue is the violence/systemic burdening associated with that culture....
so, yes....if the few rogues force a stain on their many, then so be their demise relative to developing a sane way of life....in the end, this is how religion creates division....
#sandtoglass is not an issue in my mind if it escalates to necessary levels to protect the "good" on our soil....
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
These fools here that go on about their acquaintances being angels seem to be devoid of any ability to process the fact that most terrorists have others just as foolish as them claiming the same about the angels they knew before blowing themselves and others up.
There are some who will never become true Quran thumper's. But you can't know which ones study their child rapists words in Mosque basements and those who were born Muslim and don't have the intellectual honesty to leave once learning what they are a part of. I don't exactly have sympathy for them if they wont leave their disgusting cult of death and destruction no more than I care about some idiot born into a family of Klansmen and doesn't leave once old enough to understand what it means to stay. They are just as foolish as their infidel friends.
And the idiots that think the non-practicing secular Muslims who ignore the truth of Muhammad (piss be upon him) are the true Muslims and the true Islamists who live and breath their religion aren't... STFU. Morons. If you don't follow your religion, you aren't the religion. That's as stupid as saying a rainbow coalition church practicing buggery in the pews while the lesbian priest wielding a butcher knife offers "transitions" in the baptismal is the true Christian religion and Catholics and Protestants aren't.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017 01:51 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
And the reason they are being told, by the west, to take off their burkas and hajibs is because they stand by the side while the radicals do radical things.
It's not the masses throwing gays off of buildings in the ME, but the crowds watch it and do nothing.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
Who is telling them. They can wear a live chicken on their heads as long as the don't knife me, shoot me or try to blow me up.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 05:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
Who is telling them. They can wear a live chicken on their heads as long as the don't knife me, shoot me or try to blow me up.
Nobody. I see them here in their ridiculous getups all the time.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
I have no problem with them covering their heads. Faces? Hell no.
I watched a family at the beach last Summer. The mother and daughter had to go swimming with all that mess on while the dad sunned with speedos on. Fcking silliest nonsense ever.
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 02:20 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
And the reason they are being told, by the west, to take off their burkas and hajibs is because they stand by the side while the radicals do radical things.
It's not the masses throwing gays off of buildings in the ME, but the crowds watch it and do nothing.
And the Trump Administration, who just appointed an organization that OPPOSES simple condemnation of extrajudicial executions of LGBT persons at the UN to represent him at a womens conference?
And the US evangelical groups working with Uganda in support/defense of the "Kill the Gays" bill there (Tony Perkins/FRC)?
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-19-2017 07:27 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:
(03-17-2017 09:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: The right needs to learn that not all Muslims are radicals. The left needs to understand that some are. Both sides need to learn that our insistence that they modernize and westernize is what drives moderate Muslims toward radicalism.
Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
I have no problem with them covering their heads. Faces? Hell no.
I watched a family at the beach last Summer. The mother and daughter had to go swimming with all that mess on while the dad sunned with speedos on. Fcking silliest nonsense ever.
Generally, religious Muslims won't go in the water with a Speedo. Its considered immodest for males to show too much skin, even in the company of other Muslim males. Its possible that the females simply chose to go in the water that way (doing that kind of avoids a lot of body consciousness issues).
RE: France not for the French this day and age. Not safe ANYWHERE
(03-20-2017 08:52 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(03-19-2017 02:20 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-19-2017 01:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2017 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(03-17-2017 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote: Not a single person on the right thinks they all are. No learning needed.
I think the problem stems from the fact that the "peaceful" followers of Islam sit quietly by while the radicals among them murder people in the name of Allah. Until I see worldwide Muslim war against these terrorists?....I have no option but to not trust a single one of them. I can't take that risk. Every time I encounter these people I am on personal high alert.
The problem with the peaceful followers of Islam is that we are in their faces telling them that their women have to take off their burkas and hajibs, and that pisses them off. Some of them get pissed off enough to move from peaceful to radical.
And the reason they are being told, by the west, to take off their burkas and hajibs is because they stand by the side while the radicals do radical things.
It's not the masses throwing gays off of buildings in the ME, but the crowds watch it and do nothing.
And the Trump Administration, who just appointed an organization that OPPOSES simple condemnation of extrajudicial executions of LGBT persons at the UN to represent him at a womens conference?
And the US evangelical groups working with Uganda in support/defense of the "Kill the Gays" bill there (Tony Perkins/FRC)?
We know tom, we know.... Because some guy trump appointed has a position that you detest, you'll gladly overlook the real mistreatment of homosexuals in the ME...