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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(03-15-2017 02:23 PM)Big Blue Crazy Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 12:40 PM)CUSAmonarchman Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 12:13 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 12:07 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Also, I know it is a MAJOR pipe dream...but this sports fan would love love love to have an NHL or NBA team locally to root for. Probably will never happen, but a guy can dream.

Harry wrote an article last week and noted that this arena wouldnt fulfill the requirements for a pro team. So, don't even bother getting your hopes up. It may be good enough to get an arena team but nothing more.

#BringBackTheNighthawks

I have heard that arena football is a definite possibility!!!
I would love that

The Nighthawks lasted 4 years, in a place much easier to get to (though not as nice) would this be that much different?

(03-17-2017 12:18 PM)Vdogg Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 10:49 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Looks like we have ourselves an arena....

http://pilotonline.com/news/government/l...e0fc8.html

Could this pave the way for a conference tourney bid for VB/Norfolk?

(03-15-2017 01:32 PM)Quagmire Wrote:  So what does this group think the net/net on this arena would be for ODU? I'm concerned about another group/entity out soliciting event sponsorship dollars in an already thin Fortune 500 area and the impact on Hoops and Football.

Also, would this mean we can now bulldoze Scope and move the Admirals to the Beach? Do we really need Scope, Echols Hall, and the Ted within 5 miles of each other anyhow?
ADP just set up shop in downtown Norfolk and they're a major fortune 500 company. So far as I know they're not sponsoring anything locally yet so if I were they arena developers that's the first place I'd go.
This is exactly why ODUSP is concerned.
03-17-2017 12:28 PM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
The design team of Clark Nexsen and AECOM recently met with the developer, contractor and operator for the Virginia Beach Arena. The operator created of video shot during the recent programming meetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnBqPCkOqQ
05-05-2017 03:45 PM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(05-05-2017 03:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  The design team of Clark Nexsen and AECOM recently met with the developer, contractor and operator for the Virginia Beach Arena. The operator created of video shot during the recent programming meetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnBqPCkOqQ

Thank you so much for that. Really nice to see some actual design/implementation for the new arena. I really hope Ballard can pick up enough $$$ on this project so he can be kind on the ODU stadium deal. *(Yes, I know he may not get the ODU deal but...) We are going to need a stadium builder to put as much of the money as they can in on the stadium while not carrying even the usual profit margin.
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Yeah it's coming along. I know our teams are sighing with relief as some folks have been working on it for about 4 years.

Well sighing and also freaking out because it's 0 to 200mph.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.
05-05-2017 06:10 PM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 03:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  The design team of Clark Nexsen and AECOM recently met with the developer, contractor and operator for the Virginia Beach Arena. The operator created of video shot during the recent programming meetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnBqPCkOqQ

Thank you so much for that. Really nice to see some actual design/implementation for the new arena. I really hope Ballard can pick up enough $$$ on this project so he can be kind on the ODU stadium deal. *(Yes, I know he may not get the ODU deal but...) We are going to need a stadium builder to put as much of the money as they can in on the stadium while not carrying even the usual profit margin.

Would be awesome if Ballard could find a way to build a lot more stadium (like 25,000+ seats and a new end zone and scoreboard) for the same budget.
05-05-2017 07:58 PM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(05-05-2017 07:58 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 03:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  The design team of Clark Nexsen and AECOM recently met with the developer, contractor and operator for the Virginia Beach Arena. The operator created of video shot during the recent programming meetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnBqPCkOqQ

Thank you so much for that. Really nice to see some actual design/implementation for the new arena. I really hope Ballard can pick up enough $$$ on this project so he can be kind on the ODU stadium deal. *(Yes, I know he may not get the ODU deal but...) We are going to need a stadium builder to put as much of the money as they can in on the stadium while not carrying even the usual profit margin.

Would be awesome if Ballard could find a way to build a lot more stadium (like 25,000+ seats and a new end zone and scoreboard) for the same budget.

Ballard would be in our hall of fame if he can manage to give ODU a huge bang for its buck
05-06-2017 07:13 AM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(05-06-2017 07:13 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 07:58 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  
(05-05-2017 03:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  The design team of Clark Nexsen and AECOM recently met with the developer, contractor and operator for the Virginia Beach Arena. The operator created of video shot during the recent programming meetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnBqPCkOqQ

Thank you so much for that. Really nice to see some actual design/implementation for the new arena. I really hope Ballard can pick up enough $$$ on this project so he can be kind on the ODU stadium deal. *(Yes, I know he may not get the ODU deal but...) We are going to need a stadium builder to put as much of the money as they can in on the stadium while not carrying even the usual profit margin.

Would be awesome if Ballard could find a way to build a lot more stadium (like 25,000+ seats and a new end zone and scoreboard) for the same budget.

Ballard would be in our hall of fame if he can manage to give ODU a huge bang for its buck

Agreed. Im hoping maybe this is a classic case of under promising and over delivering so they all look like heroes in the end. I guess we will see.
05-06-2017 07:32 AM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
I might still be in the minority on this deal...there are so many red flags...Birdneck Road as a major road artery to the stadium...the parking garage that VB was left holding the bag to pay for...the rejection of light rail by VB...the silly talking point of having a limited summer schedule (the building and its mechanicals still run occupied or not)...moving the veterans memorial (not the actual movement, but the lack of tact announcing it), the mess of the financing deals...
I still don't think it will be built or at best it will be an empty white elephant at the terminus of an interstate spur with no major tenant; the amphitheater just miles away (needing shows too); a little regional cooperation with a build site of Military Circle would have been best.
05-07-2017 07:00 AM
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RE: Virginia Beach arena update
(05-07-2017 07:00 AM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  I might still be in the minority on this deal...there are so many red flags...Birdneck Road as a major road artery to the stadium...the parking garage that VB was left holding the bag to pay for...the rejection of light rail by VB...the silly talking point of having a limited summer schedule (the building and its mechanicals still run occupied or not)...moving the veterans memorial (not the actual movement, but the lack of tact announcing it), the mess of the financing deals...
I still don't think it will be built or at best it will be an empty white elephant at the terminus of an interstate spur with no major tenant; the amphitheater just miles away (needing shows too); a little regional cooperation with a build site of Military Circle would have been best.

You may be in the minority, but you are not alone. Particularly on your last point.

I dearly hope this arena is fabulously successful -- our region needs a premier facility in the worst way. But the go-it-alone attitude, not just from Virginia Beach but also from Norfolk and the other surrounding cities, is not at all promising.
05-07-2017 07:13 AM
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Champagne tastes on a beer budget. This area is notorious for having big ideas and then fatally underfunding. Due in large part to the go it alone philosophy. The Tide is case in point. A huge expense, it was underfunded and basically goes nowhere. Thus the opponents have a self fulfilling prophecy, "see we told you wouldn't work".Va. Beach's' failure to get on board is a classic example of how to kill a great idea, or at least make it significantly less than it should be.
It seems city leaders and residents want something good, then chicken out half way thru because of the expense. Until we can agree to work together as a region, sharing the huge expense of doing it right, we'll always have these ill conceived, underfunded attempts at looking vibrant.
05-07-2017 09:11 AM
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