DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-13-2017 06:35 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: How long ago was that quote? Things change quickly. Getting hoops better has no impact on football.
It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
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Bearcats#1
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-13-2017 06:35 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: How long ago was that quote? Things change quickly. Getting hoops better has no impact on football.
It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
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03-16-2017 06:16 AM |
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Starfox207
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RE: Our basketball issues
here is a new AAC idea. It can be a secondary, all sports conference, hosting everything.
We all go back to where we came from or go independent. The entrance into AAC is a revolving door. Any school can get into it P5, or FCS, or International college or highschool.
It is a lottery system. The year you are in AAC, you compete in all sports with whoever is in it, but the Money is increased to 10 million a team. This replaces your existing main contract as well. So, its Russian roulette for P5, and really pretty awesome for the other schools, disregarding the money exchange rate between US and the international schools.
I think it can be pretty exciting, and can solve all of our problems.
(This post was last modified: 03-16-2017 07:16 AM by Starfox207.)
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Bogg
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-13-2017 06:35 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: How long ago was that quote? Things change quickly. Getting hoops better has no impact on football.
It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
Well, that's not actually true. UConn has options, and it's in the best interest of the conference for UConn to remain, so UConn's going to continue to get input into all decisions made. Is what it is.
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03-16-2017 10:33 AM |
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Stookey57
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RE: Our basketball issues
Bc1 is correct in his street talk and I'm not sold on ollie, he won with Calhoun kids and it was a year where he was still Heavilly involved
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billybobby777
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 10:33 AM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
Well, that's not actually true. UConn has options, and it's in the best interest of the conference for UConn to remain, so UConn's going to continue to get input into all decisions made. Is what it is.
Uconn will continue to get input into all AAC decisions made of course. But Uconn doesn't "have options" like you said. No P5 conferences are interested in Uconn, and it's debatable whether the Big East is either. Unless you know something we don't, uconns in the same boat as the rest of us.
Cheers!
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03-16-2017 12:48 PM |
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Bogg
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (03-16-2017 10:33 AM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
Well, that's not actually true. UConn has options, and it's in the best interest of the conference for UConn to remain, so UConn's going to continue to get input into all decisions made. Is what it is.
Uconn will continue to get input into all AAC decisions made of course. But Uconn doesn't "have options" like you said. No P5 conferences are interested in Uconn, and it's debatable whether the Big East is either. Unless you know something we don't, uconns in the same boat as the rest of us.
Cheers!
No, the BE invite is there if UConn wants it. There's no more logical school for the Big East to expand with - getting the men's and women's programs would help Fox with their ratings, the women's program would bring a steady stream of national championships to a conference that bills itself as a premier basketball conference, and Fairfield County does a good job of helping to pack MSG for the tourney, which would help fend off the ACC and B1G. As a bonus, moving the BE women's tourney to Mohegan would give them the best men's and women's tournaments under one roof. UConn just needs to make a decision on football - the money in the next AAC media deal will likely be the deciding factor.
Sleeper candidate for the BE's 12th pro rata slot, should they decide to go that far? SMU (again, if they can find a spot for football, and SMU values football more highly than UConn does). Yea, they're Methodist, and yea, they play football, but instead of waiting on St Louoseto get their act together I wouldn't be totally shocked to see the Big East explore the Dallas market and recruiting grounds. SMU certainly appears legit enough in basketball.
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03-16-2017 01:24 PM |
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quo vadis
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 01:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (03-16-2017 10:33 AM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
Well, that's not actually true. UConn has options, and it's in the best interest of the conference for UConn to remain, so UConn's going to continue to get input into all decisions made. Is what it is.
Uconn will continue to get input into all AAC decisions made of course. But Uconn doesn't "have options" like you said. No P5 conferences are interested in Uconn, and it's debatable whether the Big East is either. Unless you know something we don't, uconns in the same boat as the rest of us.
Cheers!
No, the BE invite is there if UConn wants it.
As a Big East fan, I confirm that. Do we want the hassles of divided loyalties that comes with a school that has a football priority? No, but for an old conference mate like UConn an exception would surely be made.
The new Big East has done well so far, but we miss our old rivals - especially UConn and Syracuse. Cuse is never coming back, but as long as UConn isn't P5, there's hope there, eh?
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03-16-2017 02:32 PM |
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Bogg
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 02:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-16-2017 01:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (03-16-2017 10:33 AM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
Well, that's not actually true. UConn has options, and it's in the best interest of the conference for UConn to remain, so UConn's going to continue to get input into all decisions made. Is what it is.
Uconn will continue to get input into all AAC decisions made of course. But Uconn doesn't "have options" like you said. No P5 conferences are interested in Uconn, and it's debatable whether the Big East is either. Unless you know something we don't, uconns in the same boat as the rest of us.
Cheers!
No, the BE invite is there if UConn wants it.
As a Big East fan, I confirm that. Do we want the hassles of divided loyalties that comes with a school that has a football priority? No, but for an old conference mate like UConn an exception would surely be made.
The new Big East has done well so far, but we miss our old rivals - especially UConn and Syracuse. Cuse is never coming back, but as long as UConn isn't P5, there's hope there, eh?
Well, speaking broadly (i.e. it doesn't have to be UConn), the Big East can survive having one or two football playing members with no problem just the same as the American can have one or two non-football members. What you'll never see again is either sides approaching a 50/50 split or FBS football under the Big East banner.
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03-16-2017 05:10 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-13-2017 06:35 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: How long ago was that quote? Things change quickly. Getting hoops better has no impact on football.
It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
21 years since even being able to sniff a Final Four and you want to talk sh*t to UCONN fans? Try making a Final Four before you come talk to UCONN fans with bass in your voice.
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03-16-2017 05:11 PM |
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Bearcats#1
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 05:11 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:24 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: It also has no impact on the current and future TV deal. So why are we advocating adding more mouths to feed for zero additional dollars again?
You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
21 years since even being able to sniff a Final Four and you want to talk sh*t to UCONN fans? Try making a Final Four before you come talk to UCONN fans with bass in your voice.
we have six of them suck it
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03-16-2017 09:35 PM |
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Bogg
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 09:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-16-2017 05:11 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
21 years since even being able to sniff a Final Four and you want to talk sh*t to UCONN fans? Try making a Final Four before you come talk to UCONN fans with bass in your voice.
we have six of them suck it
Cincinnati had a very successful basketball program during the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations, no doubt.
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03-17-2017 08:47 AM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-16-2017 09:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-16-2017 05:11 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-15-2017 02:03 PM)random Wrote: You act as if the money is coming out of your pocket. Further, you act as if the theoretical new members would get full shares. If basketball is valued at 30% of the contact, each of the 11 full members would still get 93% of what they get today.
Plus, I would guess that (93%) + (entrance fees) + ( increased tournament revenue) + ( increased ticket sales) > what you get now.
K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
21 years since even being able to sniff a Final Four and you want to talk sh*t to UCONN fans? Try making a Final Four before you come talk to UCONN fans with bass in your voice.
we have six of them suck it
6 huh? I'm so intimidated.
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03-17-2017 03:26 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-17-2017 08:47 AM)Bogg Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-16-2017 05:11 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (03-16-2017 06:16 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (03-15-2017 04:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: K
until UCONN stops sucking, you get no say in it. You can't go .500 and then sit there and dictate what the conference does or doesn't do. You just focus on sucking less next year.
21 years since even being able to sniff a Final Four and you want to talk sh*t to UCONN fans? Try making a Final Four before you come talk to UCONN fans with bass in your voice.
we have six of them suck it
Cincinnati had a very successful basketball program during the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations, no doubt.
25 years since making their last Final Four should have you shaking in your Bruno Magli's.
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03-17-2017 03:27 PM |
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mascotswinchampionships
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RE: Our basketball issues
We're a bad basketball conference.
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03-17-2017 04:17 PM |
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Bearcats#1
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RE: Our basketball issues
When does UCONN play...er wait.
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03-17-2017 04:23 PM |
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justin_sane15
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RE: Our basketball issues
It's ok everyone, Houston has really turned the corner; we played in just as many postseason games as our league champion did!
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03-17-2017 04:25 PM |
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Westhoff123
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Our basketball issues
(03-17-2017 04:25 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote: It's ok everyone, Houston has really turned the corner; we played in just as many postseason games as our league champion did!
Yup we also won the same amount too
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03-17-2017 04:26 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
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03-17-2017 04:37 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Our basketball issues
(03-17-2017 04:17 PM)mascotswinchampionships Wrote: We're a bad basketball conference.
Adding a bball only school like Wichita St won't change that.
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