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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
(03-20-2017 08:57 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 08:33 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Tell me why it's advantageous to let the tourny champion have automatic bid when on a year like this the Mavs will get a higher seed and have a better chance to make money for everyone in the league?

Why have a tournament then?

Exactly. Just get rid of the dang tournament, we might actually save money as a league.
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
Or a least go back to the double bye for 1-2 seeds
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(03-20-2017 09:15 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Or a least go back to the double bye for 1-2 seeds

What would that have changed? UTA lost in the semis.
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
Yes they did but going forward if we are going to have all 12 in the tourney we need to find a way to give the 1-2 seeds a better chance to win it
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
Cal State Bakersfield is winning by 20 at Colorado State at halftime. If Bakersfield wins, then UTA will host them Wednesday Night for the right to go to New York. If Colorado State somehow comes back, Mavs head on the road.
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
Bakersfield beats Colorado State. UTA gets an unexpected 2nd NIT home game Wednesday Night in the Quarterfinals at 9pm ET on ESPNU. Winner will advance to play either Ole Miss or Georgia Tech in the Semifinals in Madison Square Garden.

First SBC school since MTSU a few years back to get to the Quarterfinals of the NIT. Blue Raiders also hosted that game, and lost.
03-21-2017 12:53 AM
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
(03-20-2017 09:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Yes they did but going forward if we are going to have all 12 in the tourney we need to find a way to give the 1-2 seeds a better chance to win it

And in the future, if Your school doesn't benefit from being a 1 or 2 seed, are you going to come on here and b$&?h that "others were given an unfair advantage?"

UTA already had an advantage going into the tournament, they were a 1 seed with a first round bye. iF they're ALL that, why didn't they win when it mattered?

I don't care what kind of system this conference sets up, it won't guarantee that the Regular season champ always wins the tournament . . Upsets happen.

Unless you wanna just scrap the tournament all together, but I don't see that as a real benefit from the perspective of the NCAA, especially when every other conference of note plays one.
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
(03-20-2017 09:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Exactly. Just get rid of the dang tournament, we might actually save money as a league.

I agree.

I have always assumed the logic behind the conference tournament is that it can give a team that didn't have a great season a back door to the tournament and maybe give your RS champ a shot at an at-large bid.

How'd that work for UT Arlington? Their RPI was higher than multiple teams with at-large bids.

No offense to Troy, but the best team in the Sun Belt is knocking heads in the NIT. Meanwhile, an MTSU team that's not any better gave CUSA their third straight season with an NCAA tournament win even though they've been lower in the RPI as a conference than us the last two seasons.

And for those that don't think UTA would get a higher seed in the NCAAs, just look at teams in conferences lower in the RPI that got higher seeds (the CUSA, SoCon, and Big South for example). The regular-season is what matters, and that's the way it should be.
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
(03-21-2017 08:25 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 09:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Exactly. Just get rid of the dang tournament, we might actually save money as a league.

I agree.

I have always assumed the logic behind the conference tournament is that it can give a team that didn't have a great season a back door to the tournament and maybe give your RS champ a shot at an at-large bid.

How'd that work for UT Arlington? Their RPI was higher than multiple teams with at-large bids.

No offense to Troy, but the best team in the Sun Belt is knocking heads in the NIT. Meanwhile, an MTSU team that's not any better gave CUSA their third straight season with an NCAA tournament win even though they've been lower in the RPI as a conference than us the last two seasons.

And for those that don't think UTA would get a higher seed in the NCAAs, just look at teams in conferences lower in the RPI that got higher seeds (the CUSA, SoCon, and Big South for example). The regular-season is what matters, and that's the way it should be.

I don't disagree that the regular season is what matters. But while you're "modifying the conference tournament to ensure "an advantage" to our regular season champ, you better also factor in The NCAA Selection Committees perception of that advantage.

All you may succeed in doing is ensuring that the Sun Belt Champ is relegated to the play in game or a 16 seed. And if you depart too much from what the majority of conferences are doing, you ensure that The Belt continues to be denied the Respect so many of you claim that you crave.
03-21-2017 09:42 AM
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RE: Sun Belt MBB postseason
(03-21-2017 08:17 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 09:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Yes they did but going forward if we are going to have all 12 in the tourney we need to find a way to give the 1-2 seeds a better chance to win it

And in the future, if Your school doesn't benefit from being a 1 or 2 seed, are you going to come on here and b$&?h that "others were given an unfair advantage?"

UTA already had an advantage going into the tournament, they were a 1 seed with a first round bye. iF they're ALL that, why didn't they win when it mattered?

I don't care what kind of system this conference sets up, it won't guarantee that the Regular season champ always wins the tournament . . Upsets happen.

Unless you wanna just scrap the tournament all together, but I don't see that as a real benefit from the perspective of the NCAA, especially when every other conference of note plays one.

Proof? Especially on the unfair advantage.
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