The matchup I was hoping to get has been set... 12-UNCW vs 5-UVAg
Polar opposites. UNCW has the outside shooting to exploit UVAg's defense. Bennett is a terrific coach. Watching his teams play is often painful though. Should be an interesting game. I like the Seahawks' chances.
Hokies and Rams of course make the field as expected as well. I'm hoping the Dukes will be a legit candidate in the CAA to make the field by 2019 with NIT as an achievable target if we don't win the CAAT.
NIT field TBA tonight at 8:30 on ESPN-U. Charleston is a good candidate to make that tournament as the only other CAAT to make either the NCAAT or NIT. Maybe one of the other CAA programs like Towson may make one of the other tournaments like the CIT, CBI, FBI, IRS, S&M, T&A, GFY, or the like.
Will take a look later, but interested if any of you see any darkhorses to consider for first round upsets, making the Sweet 16, etc., when filling out brackets.
The commentator on the selection show made it seem like a fact that UNCW will upset UVA.
Last year, ODU were the Vegas 16 champions (which was a field of 8). What is that you ask? It's the 5th tier tournament after teams didn't get an invite to the NCAAT, NIT, CBI or CIT. Well... it was a one and done tournament. There is no Vegas 16 this year. Here's to hoping the NIT and others also go the way of the dinosaur. They're even more pointless than bowl games.
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(03-12-2017 06:06 PM)Potomac Wrote: The commentator on the selection show made it seem like a fact that UNCW will upset UVA.
Last year, ODU were the Vegas 16 champions (which was a field of 8). What is that you ask? It's the 5th tier tournament after teams didn't get an invite to the NCAAT, NIT, CBI or CIT. Well... it was a one and done tournament. There is no Vegas 16 this year. Here's to hoping the NIT and others also go the way of the dinosaur. They're even more pointless than bowl games.
Agree, I hate that they have made it this long. They are bad for the college game.
We have three former Dukes participating in post season tournaments. Cooke for Dayton, Bessick for Iona, and Miller coaching for UNC Greensboro as the new Arch Rival of Jim boeheim and Syracuse. Cooke and Bessick getting their second taste of the big dance since being on JMU's 2013 NCAA tournament team.
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(03-12-2017 06:06 PM)Potomac Wrote: The commentator on the selection show made it seem like a fact that UNCW will upset UVA.
Last year, ODU were the Vegas 16 champions (which was a field of 8). What is that you ask? It's the 5th tier tournament after teams didn't get an invite to the NCAAT, NIT, CBI or CIT. Well... it was a one and done tournament. There is no Vegas 16 this year. Here's to hoping the NIT and others also go the way of the dinosaur. They're even more pointless than bowl games.
No CAA teams in either the CBI or CIT, wonder if anyone even received an invite?
(03-12-2017 06:06 PM)Potomac Wrote: The commentator on the selection show made it seem like a fact that UNCW will upset UVA.
Last year, ODU were the Vegas 16 champions (which was a field of 8). What is that you ask? It's the 5th tier tournament after teams didn't get an invite to the NCAAT, NIT, CBI or CIT. Well... it was a one and done tournament. There is no Vegas 16 this year. Here's to hoping the NIT and others also go the way of the dinosaur. They're even more pointless than bowl games.
No CAA teams in either the CBI or CIT, wonder if anyone even received an invite?
Those are pretty much pay for play. I saw where University of Illinois Chicago a mid major is a participant in one of those tournaments with a losing record. No thanks- I'm glad the Caa teams decided to pass. NCAA nit or bust.
Call me crazy because a 16 over a 1 is a total long shot that has never happened before but I think Texas Southern has some attributes that 16 seeds typically don't have. Coach who has been to the final game, a solid big, some transfers from solid programs, and they are battle tested essentially having played the entire ooc on the road.also They don't have the first 4 game to worry about so they have been focused on the scouting report since Sunday. Tall order vs Unc but probably a safe bet to cover the spread.
I don't see any of the 1 or 2 seeds losing...or, even getting threatened that much TBH.
While I think the ACC will do very well again in this year's tournament, I think the most vulnerable 3-seed is Florida State. They are deadly at home in Tally, but not nearly as good away from it. They are also a very young team. Athletically, they are about as strong as any team in the tournament, but they have been known to post some real stinkers in terms of performances as well. Fla Gulf Coast is a sneaky good team.
As normal, a 12-seed will win at least 1 game. I can see Middle Tennessee taking out Minnesota. The Big 10 is overrated (as usual) in my opinion. It won't surprise me at all if Virginia fan's sphincters are very tight with 10 minutes left in their game with UNCW. The point spread has dropped from 8.5 to 7.5 in that game, btw.
It was only 4 short years ago that JMU broke the curse of the Lefthander and all was well in the land of JMU basketball.
This is good viewing to help forget about the past year.
(03-14-2017 01:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: I don't see any of the 1 or 2 seeds losing...or, even getting threatened that much TBH.
While I think the ACC will do very well again in this year's tournament, I think the most vulnerable 3-seed is Florida State. They are deadly at home in Tally, but not nearly as good away from it. They are also a very young team. Athletically, they are about as strong as any team in the tournament, but they have been known to post some real stinkers in terms of performances as well. Fla Gulf Coast is a sneaky good team.
As normal, a 12-seed will win at least 1 game. I can see Middle Tennessee taking out Minnesota. The Big 10 is overrated (as usual) in my opinion. It won't surprise me at all if Virginia fan's sphincters are very tight with 10 minutes left in their game with UNCW. The point spread has dropped from 8.5 to 7.5 in that game, btw.
I disagree that FGCU will give Florida State too much trouble. FSU just has way too much length at their disposal and tons of bodies to throw at FGCU. FSU starts Ojo in the middle, who's 7'-1" and 300 lbs, and his backup in Koumadje is 7'-4". FSU also starts nobody smaller than 6'-4" and I'm not sure anybody on FGCU's roster will be able to guard FSU's best player in 6'-7" Dwayne Bacon.
It's March, so anything can happen, but I don't see FSU having much of an issue in Round 1.
Just a rough estimate, but every win prior to the Final 4 in the NCAAT equates to what they call a unit. A unit is worth just south of 300 grand per year for the next 6 years to the winning team's conference. So, that's about 1.6-1.7M over 6 years. Former CAA Commish, Yeager, in a Washington Post article a few years ago said about half of that goes back to the hoops members (the other half goes to some fund as well as paying some CAA salaries...of which, I'm sure his was the fattest).
Using a 1.6M number split in half to 800 grand over 6 years, then divided by 10, that's about 80 grand per year for every win. I believe JMU's win at the First Four in 2013 does contribute to the total kitty. Certainly, the CAA benefitted from Mason's Final 4 run many years afterwards over a decade ago. Gosh, has it really been 11 years ago? I am not completely clear on how all the money works with reconfigured conferences. I assume - and could be very wrong - that the CAA's current membership has and perhaps still benefits from units accumulated by former members such as VCU making nice runs in years past.
GO UNCW!
edit note: last year's terrific NCAAT run by the ACC yielded that conference over $30M in units over the next 6 years. Divide it 15 ways and it isn't nearly as large as the money that will come in from TV and so forth, but it will still pay a lot of bills.
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(03-15-2017 09:31 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote: I disagree that FGCU will give Florida State too much trouble. FSU just has way too much length at their disposal and tons of bodies to throw at FGCU. FSU starts Ojo in the middle, who's 7'-1" and 300 lbs, and his backup in Koumadje is 7'-4". FSU also starts nobody smaller than 6'-4" and I'm not sure anybody on FGCU's roster will be able to guard FSU's best player in 6'-7" Dwayne Bacon.
It's March, so anything can happen, but I don't see FSU having much of an issue in Round 1.
My stance on that game is that you are 100% correct. However, FSU has played so badly on the road and neutral places this season that a quality team that is athletic and shoots some like FGCU could easily pull the upset. If FSU plays anywhere near their potential, I agree this shouldnt be a game, in fact FSU would be a title contender. But having the tallest roster in NCAA does not mean getting wins when they are not in Tallahassee.
(03-14-2017 12:51 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote: Call me crazy because a 16 over a 1 is a total long shot that has never happened before but I think Texas Southern has some attributes that 16 seeds typically don't have. Coach who has been to the final game, a solid big, some transfers from solid programs, and they are battle tested essentially having played the entire ooc on the road.also They don't have the first 4 game to worry about so they have been focused on the scouting report since Sunday. Tall order vs Unc but probably a safe bet to cover the spread.
Sure they have some qualities that are not typical, but I do not see it. They played top tier teams already and got smoked by every single one of them. Any time the betting line is over 20 the smart money should be bet on the 16 seeds. Any time the line is below 20 bet the top seed. However in this game I do not see them covering the 25.5
Arizona- lost by 22
Louisville- lost by 31
Cincinnati- lost by 38
Baylor- lost by 26
Heck LSU was atrocious this year and beat them by 8
TCU was a borderline NCAA team and smoked them by 37
(03-15-2017 09:31 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote: I disagree that FGCU will give Florida State too much trouble. FSU just has way too much length at their disposal and tons of bodies to throw at FGCU. FSU starts Ojo in the middle, who's 7'-1" and 300 lbs, and his backup in Koumadje is 7'-4". FSU also starts nobody smaller than 6'-4" and I'm not sure anybody on FGCU's roster will be able to guard FSU's best player in 6'-7" Dwayne Bacon.
It's March, so anything can happen, but I don't see FSU having much of an issue in Round 1.
My stance on that game is that you are 100% correct. However, FSU has played so badly on the road and neutral places this season that a quality team that is athletic and shoots some like FGCU could easily pull the upset. If FSU plays anywhere near their potential, I agree this shouldnt be a game, in fact FSU would be a title contender. But having the tallest roster in NCAA does not mean getting wins when they are not in Tallahassee.
That Orlando first weekend will be interesting. If FGCU keeps it close in the 2nd half, the crowd will get behind them big time. I mean, for starters, the Gators are there. And, I think fans of whoever is left from the earlier winner of Maryland or Xavier will certainly like to see the Noles gone. Fun times. Well, for those schools' fans who are participating especially I should say. Hopefully, the Dukes will be back by '19 or '20.
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watching those 2013 videos was awesome. It s too bad Matt and JMU couldnt build off that. That was the time my daughter and son both had visited jmu and fell in love with the place. Can t believe shes about to graduate and hes a junior already.
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