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(03-13-2017 09:29 AM)esayem Wrote:  I wouldn't say FSU was favored: they play an underseeded FGCU in Orlando.

FSU has a tough path from game 1. I don't think they deserved any favors from the committee, but they didn't get any either.
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(03-13-2017 09:07 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  How aren't all four of those schools the ones playing in? Why subject USC and Providence to it?

IMO, USC and Providence were the bubbliest of bubbles. If I were a fan of either, I'd have no complaints, would be happy to be in by even the slightest toe-hold. They have their opportunity and that's all they could hope for. Get to work and make something of it.
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(03-13-2017 09:29 AM)esayem Wrote:  I wouldn't say FSU was favored: they play an underseeded FGCU in Orlando.

True, but win, and you get either UMD or Xavier in your home state. Florida gets to enjoy that perk, too. It's a good first weekend for those not traveling far from home.

Purdue and West Virginia, not so much. In fact, Purdue looks like it drew a short straw with that 4/5 game in Wisconsin. It looks more like a gift to the Cyclones.

And I agree that UNC has the death bracket. While Lexington isn't a skip and a hop away from Memphis, Kentucky is hardly traveling during the regional play. Still, UNC gets to enjoy strangers in their backyard that first weekend.

I wouldn't rank UNC as one of the most hosed of the seedings, though. If I had to say who got screwed the most? Cincinnati by a long country mile (not just UCLA in CA, but getting a play-in winner that may have some momentum), MTSU, VCU, Nevada, and Wichita (and the MVC in general).
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2-13 away from home and Syracuse played just one true road game ooc. That is unacceptable.
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(03-13-2017 10:27 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Vandy got the *9 seed so the network could get a nice market share in Nashville and Chicago, plus the Big 10 / SEC thing. That's the way the whole thing is organized. The seeds are for market pairings, not for quality of wins or the season's work.

Devil's advocate:

1) why shouldn't it work that way, TV pays for the thing!

2) all that really matters is that they get the actual contenders for the national championship right.

Since it is the NCAA's tourney, and they are trying to make money off of it, I tend to agree with you. They just need to drop the hooey about seeding protocol. It's hypocritical.
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Bish: were any other at-large teams no better than .500 in conference?
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(03-13-2017 12:40 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Bish: were any other at-large teams no better than .500 in conference?

No.

You had some selections looking right past others in the conference. The Wake-for-Syracuse thing in the ACC. In the PAC, you had 11-7 Utah getting overlooked for USC.
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All in all, I can't say that anybody was snubbed. Some schools that might have made it didn't. But that doesn't mean they were snubbed. You could make a case for or against including any number of teams around the bubble. They can't all get in.
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(03-12-2017 05:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Illinois State, and the committee needs to knock off some this rubbish when they dig into the 50's or higher for some of these schools.

The same RPI that thinks well of Vandy and it's garbage record thought high of ISU. The SOS thing is such a double-dip and it clearly favors the majors.

I really thought one of the trio of ISU, Monmouth, and UTA were gonna get the nod. I am concerned with the integrity of the committee. Not only going nuts on their own, but seeding everyone else like crud? Wow, how big of you to give Gonzaga a top line... why on earth is SMU a 6?

Yeah, they need to rework the committee.
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(03-12-2017 09:39 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 08:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 06:46 PM)SubGod22 Wrote:  Vandy was way overseeded.

This...but actually a 12 seed is a good spot to advance...I think a 10 or 11 seed are even better. MTSU IMHO was probably a 12...but so was Vandy.

I thought there was some rule (possibly unwritten) that they try to arrange the bracket so teams from the same conference don't meet in the first two rounds?

If it is a favored conference, they don't do it until the regional finals. Iowa St. is stuck with Kansas in the semi-finals if both win. As ISU is a #5, its a good chance.
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