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I wonder if conferences could do a merger for media exposure and all that? Even though it might be less, but you do have the live streaming on the Internet. Imagine if you can get UTEP to come in with New Mexico State, plus the MWC, Big Sky, WAC, WCC, Summit, Big West, GNAC, RMAC, West Texas A&M, Fort Hays State and so forth. You do get more content on tv. D2 schools would jump for a chance to play games on the weeknights like Thursday nights. D2 could not bring in the viewers unless they are connected with a D1 conference in a way. Imagine how that group will be with the top basketball programs from all the D1 conferences, and some D2 schools will be. That could give Hawaii some close by home games from Chaminade, Hawaii-Hilo, Hawaii Pacific and a school adding sports right now, Hawaii-West Oahu. West Oahu said they would like to add football. Imagine Hawaii Vs Hawaii-West Oahu down the road? Plus, you do get to play a local team that are close by with fans coming to buy tickets to offset the costs. Eastern Washington, Idaho, Idaho State, Central Washington, NW Nazarene, Utah State, BYU, Weber State, Utah Valley, Gonzaga and if College of Idaho moves back up. Plus you have Simon Fraser, Alaska schools, Western Washington, Seattle, Seattle Pacific, Saint Martins, Western Oregon, Portland and the NAIA schools from that area. California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, southern Utah and Colorado schools could play in their regional setups which includes the schools like UTEP, West Texas A&M, Angelo State, Colorado State-Pueblo, Fort Hays State.
Montana, Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota and northern Missouri schools could find a common grounds as well.
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(03-12-2017 09:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't see the advantage of the crazy start times just to make about $200K a year.

Very, very easy: exposure on national television.

Believe me, your presidents get it. And that's why this is just saber rattling.


Don't believe any message board poster, even for a millisecond, that the MWC is seriously considering giving up national TV for internet streaming only. That's laughable, and absurd.

That would signal that the MWC is a DII conference, well behind even the MAC and Sun Belt.
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(03-12-2017 12:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Believe me, your presidents get it. And that's why this is just saber rattling.

Saber rattling for what purpose? Those MWC start times aren't getting changed.
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(03-12-2017 12:38 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Those MWC start times aren't getting changed.

No, of course not. Those times are simply the effect of the geographic position of the MWC and its order down on the pecking order.

But ESPN/whoever will throw them a couple more bones, and the presidents will gladly accept it with a "thank you very much!".
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It also depends on who MWC play that ESPN would show in the daytime.
BYU vs Boise State
PAC 12 team vs a MWC team that wins.
The lesser teams in MWC can't find a better time slot.
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(03-12-2017 12:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't see the advantage of the crazy start times just to make about $200K a year.

Very, very easy: exposure on national television.

Believe me, your presidents get it. And that's why this is just saber rattling.


Don't believe any message board poster, even for a millisecond, that the MWC is seriously considering giving up national TV for internet streaming only. That's laughable, and absurd.

That would signal that the MWC is a DII conference, well behind even the MAC and Sun Belt.

Except what national exposure is there when games are starting at 10 pm/11 pm cst/est?

One thing that is happening now and will be more prevalent in the very near future is that cell data plans are becoming unlimited and no cap for high speed. That will change the dynamics of how people watch sports and TV. With no need for cable or even home internet, ESPN watch and ESPN 3 won't capture that increasing market because they require a cable/satellite subscription.

In addition, students now and even a few years ago hardly subscribe to a cable or satellite TV.
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(03-12-2017 09:49 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  One thing that is happening now and will be more prevalent in the very near future is that cell data plans are becoming unlimited and no cap for high speed.

That is absolutely not happening now, nor will it ever.

Read the fine print. Even land-line service does not provide infinite data per month. At some ___ GB, you start paying a fee.


The following axiom should serve these types of discussions well going forward: if it costs land-line ISP providers $X per GB delivered, then it costs wireless service provides $N*X per GB delivered, where N is some positive number that could well be in the hundreds, or higher! Don't know it exactly, but you get the idea.


It's just so laughable that some people actually believe all land-line service to people's homes (let alone businesses) will vaporize into thin air in the next 10 years, replaced entirely by phones.

Zero percent chance.


(03-12-2017 09:49 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  ESPN watch and ESPN 3 won't capture that increasing market because they require a cable/satellite subscription.

WatchESPN is just an app for devices, and I'm pretty sure they already have iOS and Android apps. Anyone with the appropriate login can use that app to access ESPN/2/U/News content as well as ESPN3 content.

Why would that be any different in your mythical "all wireless" world??
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(03-13-2017 10:14 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:49 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  One thing that is happening now and will be more prevalent in the very near future is that cell data plans are becoming unlimited and no cap for high speed.

That is absolutely not happening now, nor will it ever.

Wrong. Heard of binge-on? Streaming Hulu, Netflix, FoxSportsGo, WatchESPN, Youtube don't affect your monthly data allowance whatsoever.
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Unlimited cell plans do have restrictions. You get the highest speed for how ever many GB's are included in your plan. They then slow down your speed to 3g type levels which make streaming certain video hard. Services like Netflix that pay your carrier a fee are excluded from data usage but you will end up paying that to Netflix at some point in increased subscription fees
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(03-13-2017 10:31 AM)mj4life Wrote:  Unlimited cell plans do have restrictions. You get the highest speed for how ever many GB's are included in your plan. They then slow down your speed to 3g type levels which make streaming certain video hard. Services like Netflix that pay your carrier a fee are excluded from data usage but you will end up paying that to Netflix at some point in increased subscription fees

That is 100% correct except in the case of a special deal like T-mobile has where they aren't counting the most popular streaming services towards your total data usage.
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