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RE: NCAA Division I-FBS Athletic Department Revenues
(03-11-2017 12:08 AM)EnterSandman Wrote:  Info From Equity in Athletics

Reporting Year: 07/01/2015 - 06/30/2016

Total Revenues by Team

Atlantic Coast Conference

01.) Florida State University - $123,334,314
02.) University of Louisville - $112,146,501
03.) University of Virginia - $100,632,835
04.) Clemson University - $95,800,326
05.) Duke University - $91,971,836
06.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $90,969,518
07.) University of Miami - $85,615,972
08.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $84,064,779
09.) Syracuse University - $82,676,041
10.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $80,225,029
11.) University of Pittsburgh - $75,273,117
12.) Boston College - $71,314,082
13.) Georgia Institute of Technology - $62,360,693
14.) Wake Forest University - $62,053,971

If SU doesn't turn its football around quickly, we might have trouble maintaining the $80 million revenue mark. Thankfully, I think Dino will turn things around by the middle of Year 3.

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RE: NCAA Division I-FBS Athletic Department Revenues
(03-11-2017 04:40 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 03:02 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 10:30 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 09:55 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 09:41 AM)MKPitt Wrote:  The number that caught my eye was UCONN. The only schools in the P5 under 70 million in revenue are GT and Wake Forest and the only non P5 school over 70 million is UConn. I know people like to knock them here but they really are out of place in the G5.

I believe that a lot of that revenue was from BE exit fees and a huge student subsidy.

UCONN caught my eye as well. That's close to where Louisville was in the BE. Put them in the ACC & give them the same bump Louisville got & they could be top 4 or 5.

Terry, Cincinnati & USF are getting the same BE exit fees that UCONN is getting. So unless they are bringing in $30-$40 million on subsidies then I don't think that's right.


This is the article I was referring to:

"The University of Connecticut spent $27.2 million last year subsidizing its sports teams and programs – the third highest in the nation among public schools with Division 1 sports teams. Only Rutgers University and James Madison University subsidized athletics more, a review released Monday by the Chronicle of Higher Education found.

USA Today routinely ranks UConn's subsidies among the highest in the nation."


http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-husk...story.html

Let me ask this, how much more is UCONN subsidizing compared to their peers? Compared to Cincinnati & USF? $30-$40 million more?

Hell if I know...or care. All I know is that a big chunk of that UConn athletic budget is from exit fees/subsidies, which is not sustainable long term nor admirable.
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UConn's subsidy equals almost 39% of its budget in this study:


Connecticut AAC $72,155,789 $72,062,423 $28,070,681 38.90


http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
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(03-12-2017 08:42 AM)TerryD Wrote:  UConn's subsidy equals almost 39% of its budget in this study:


Connecticut AAC $72,155,789 $72,062,423 $28,070,681 38.90


http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Thanks Terry. If you look at the numbers you will see that Virginia has about a 15% subsidy & NC, VT & GT has about a 10% subsidy. Meanwhile Cincinnati & USF has a 44% & 47% subsidy. So even if you cut UCONN subsidy in half they drop to the bottom of the ACC but still within about $5million of WF while on AAC $. Cincinnati & USF on the other hand are making the same amount on BE exit fees & subsidizing more than UCONN but are trailing well behind them in revenue, by these numbers. They are making around $9 million more on Rights/Licensing than Cincy & USF & about $5 million under what P5 makes on the low end. I have to remain impressed with UCONN here.

32 North Carolina ACC $89,128,256 $89,080,843 $9,040,407 10.14

40 Virginia Tech ACC $80,230,095 $77,679,721 $8,127,300 10.13

42 Georgia Tech ACC $77,202,758 $74,979,077 $7,271,782 9.42

54 Cincinnati AAC $52,536,185 $51,717,370 $23,182,129 44.13

59 South Fla AAC $45,479,012 $46,860,838 $21,774,572 47.88

(The numbers in this link are from 2015.)
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RE: NCAA Division I-FBS Athletic Department Revenues
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Since 2003

Atlantic Coast Conference
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Boston College

2003 - $35,663,942
2004 - $36,819,540
2005 - $53,191,260
2006 - $57,392,077
2007 - $61,203,340
2008 - $64,157,876
2009 - $64,502,395
2010 - $64,078,272
2011 - $66,197,029
2012 - $60,770,300
2013 - $65,229,918
2014 - $69,300,736
2015 - $71,314,082
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Clemson University

2003 - $40,835,150
2004 - $40,000,377
2005 - $46,175,454
2006 - $55,741,548
2007 - $59,126,212
2008 - $60,167,535
2009 - $57,562,999
2010 - $61,174,977
2011 - $66,988,424
2012 - $68,163,948
2013 - $73,791,753
2014 - $76,979,261
2015 - $95,800,326
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Duke University

2003 - $38,988,933
2004 - $42,156,105
2005 - $50,506,485
2006 - $47,507,169
2007 - $67,820,335
2008 - $71,072,431
2009 - $68,536,289
2010 - $67,986,188
2011 - $78,604,895
2012 - $76,366,113
2013 - $79,645,699
2014 - $91,688,202
2015 - $91,971,836
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Florida State University

2003 - $36,009,213
2004 - $39,004,452
2005 - $40,851,031
2006 - $42,165,416
2007 - $45,414,953
2008 - $74,417,324
2009 - $75,209,179
2010 - $86,946,503
2011 - $81,444,039
2012 - $89,145,159
2013 - $104,420,339
2014 - $121,319,469
2015 - $123,334,314
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Georgia Institute of Technology

2003 - $39,674,362
2004 - $38,823,368
2005 - $44,371,871
2006 - $49,581,182
2007 - $47,126,247
2008 - $48,061,053
2009 - $46,983,216
2010 - $46,910,364
2011 - $60,253,966
2012 - $63,630,964
2013 - $55,526,101
2014 - $65,304,486
2015 - $62,360,693
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University of Louisville

2003 - $35,084,742
2004 - $39,631,490
2005 - $48,322,617
2006 - $54,589,997
2007 - $52,203,604
2008 - $58,023,326
2009 - $63,48,7394
2010 - $87,736,320
2011 - $87,840,504
2012 - $96,193,329
2013 - $89,428,348
2014 - $104,325,208
2015 - $112,146,501
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University of Miami

2003 - $47,470,707
2004 - $39,755,862
2005 - $41,612,310
2006 - $49,219,738
2007 - $46,849,990
2008 - $61,969,808
2009 - $56,084,064
2010 - $60,325,003
2011 - $62,099,601
2012 - $67,253,273
2013 - $71,785,978
2014 - $77,724,833
2015 - $85,615,972
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University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

2003 - $43,885,075
2004 - $49,095,212
2005 - $54,100,487
2006 - $58,188,501
2007 - $61,263,269
2008 - $70,152,767
2009 - $67,613,805
2010 - $71,369,784
2011 - $78,830,350
2012 - $78,141,093
2013 - $79,845,782
2014 - $85,288,270
2015 - $90,969,518
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North Carolina State University at Raleigh

2003 - $32,382,028
2004 - $31,390,192
2005 - $39,007,082
2006 - $42,634,590
2007 - $44,553,795
2008 - $46,491,105
2009 - $50,335,991
2010 - $54,711,001
2011 - $65,507,243
2012 - $73,446,347
2013 - $70,500,811
2014 - $76,839,435
2015 - $80,225,029
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University of Notre Dame

2003 - $55,039,977
2004 - $57,649,586
2005 - $78,150,243
2006 - $83,586,903
2007 - $83,352,439
2008 - $81,088,368
2009 - $90,887,054
2010 - $94,507,919
2011 - $97,112,859
2012 - $108,509,683
2013 - $114,843,522
2014 - $121,260,381
2015 - $134,211,095
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University of Pittsburgh

2003 - $31,769,592
2004 - $34,084,519
2005 - $33,170,296
2006 - $37,465,582
2007 - $39,741,621
2008 - $45,830,364
2009 - $49,218,556
2010 - $56,044,309
2011 - $56,338,449
2012 - $57,606,235
2013 - $66,089,664
2014 - $70,527,488
2015 - $75,273,117
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Syracuse University

2003 - $40,639,624
2004 - $42,283,724
2005 - $47,927,536
2006 - $43,732,382
2007 - $44,702,831
2008 - $52,050,104
2009 - $49,342,459
2010 - $51,433,840
2011 - $73,287,687
2012 - $76,329,618
2013 - $87,647,822
2014 - $87,175,761
2015 - $82,676,041
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University of Virginia

2003 - $42,465,400
2004 - $62,316,665
2005 - $92,655,581 <---(WOW)
2006 - $64,852,417
2007 - $65,400,485
2008 - $67,141,170
2009 - $81,841,632
2010 - $78,439,006
2011 - $81,321,219
2012 - $84,402,712
2013 - $80,983,121
2014 - $87,059,237
2015 - $100,632,835
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Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

2003 - $38,900,607
2004 - $45,675,485
2005 - $48,543,003
2006 - $65,487,381
2007 - $56,029,172
2008 - $52,838,905
2009 - $58,115,929
2010 - $61,077,122
2011 - $64,801,681
2012 - $69,845,483
2013 - $73,015,503
2014 - $81,298,133
2015 - $84,064,779
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Wake Forest University

2003 - $29,560,866
2004 - $31,633,529
2005 - $34,531,656
2006 - $36,827,089
2007 - $39,961,624
2008 - $44,649,063
2009 - $42,253,156
2010 - $42,286,588
2011 - $48,776,185
2012 - $48,830,266
2013 - $56,247,495
2014 - $58,672,116
2015 - $62,053,971
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2003

01.) # University of Miami - $47,470,707
02.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $43,885,075
03.) @ University of Virginia - $42,465,400
04.) @ Clemson University - $40,835,150
05.) # Syracuse University - $40,639,624
06.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $39,674,362
07.) @ Duke University - $38,988,933
08.) # Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $38,900,607
09.) @ Florida State University - $36,009,213
10.) # Boston College - $35,663,942
11.) * University of Louisville - $35,084,742
12.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $32,382,028
13.) # University of Pittsburgh - $31,769,592
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $29,560,866

2004

01.) @ University of Virginia - $62,316,665
02.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $49,095,212
03.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $45,675,485
04.) # Syracuse University - $42,283,724
05.) @ Duke University - $42,156,105
06.) @ Clemson University - $40,000,377
07.) @ University of Miami - $39,755,862
08.) * University of Louisville - $39,631,490
09.) @ Florida State University - $39,004,452
10.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $38,823,368
11.) # Boston College - $36,819,540
12.) # University of Pittsburgh - $34,084,519
13.) @ Wake Forest University - $31,633,529
14.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $31,390,192

2005

01.) @ University of Virginia - $92,655,581
02.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $54,100,487
03.) @ Boston College - $53,191,260
04.) @ Duke University - $50,506,485
05.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $48,543,003
06.) # University of Louisville - $48,322,617
07.) # Syracuse University - $47,927,536
08.) @ Clemson University - $46,175,454
09.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $44,371,871
10.) @ University of Miami - $41,612,310
11.) @ Florida State University - $40,851,03
12.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $39,007,082
13.) @ Wake Forest University - $34,531,656
14.) # University of Pittsburgh - $33,170,296

2006

01.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $65,487,381
02.) @ University of Virginia - $64,852,417
03.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $58,188,501
04.) @ Boston College - $57,392,077
05.) @ Clemson University - $55,741,548
06.) # University of Louisville - $54,589,997
07.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $49,581,182
08.) @ University of Miami - $49,219,738
09.) @ Duke University - $47,507,169
10.) # Syracuse University - $43,732,382
11.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $42,634,590
12.) @ Florida State University - $42,165,416
13.) # University of Pittsburgh - $37,465,582
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $36,827,089

2007

01.) @ Duke University - $67,820,335
02.) @ University of Virginia - $65,400,485
03.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $61,263,269
04.) @ Boston College - $61,203,340
05.) @ Clemson University - $59,126,212
06.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $56,029,172
07.) # University of Louisville - $52,203,604
08.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $47,126,247
09.) @ University of Miami - $46,849,990
10.) @ Florida State University - $45,414,953
11.) # Syracuse University - $44,702,831
12.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $44,553,795
13.) @ Wake Forest University - $39,961,624
14.) # University of Pittsburgh - $39,741,621

2008

01.) @ Florida State University - $74,417,324
02.) @ Duke University - $71,072,431
03.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $70,152,767
04.) @ University of Virginia - $67,141,170
05.) @ Boston College - $64,157,876
06.) @ University of Miami - $61,969,808
07.) @ Clemson University - $60,167,535
08.) # University of Louisville - $58,023,326
09.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $52,838,905
10.) # Syracuse University - $52,050,104
11.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $48,061,059
12.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $46,491,105
13.) # University of Pittsburgh - $45,830,364
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $44,649,063

2009

01.) @ University of Virginia - $81,841,632
02.) @ Florida State University - $75,209,179
03.) @ Duke University - $68,536,289
04.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $67,613,805
05.) @ Boston College - $64,502,395
06.) # University of Louisville - $63,48,7394
07.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $58,115,929
08.) @ Clemson University - $57,562,999
09.) @ University of Miami - $56,084,064
10.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $50,335,991
11.) # Syracuse University - $49,342,459
12.) # University of Pittsburgh - $49,218,556
13.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $46,983,216
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $42,253,156

2010

01.) # University of Louisville - $87,736,320
02.) @ Florida State University - $86,946,503
03.) @ University of Virginia - $78,439,006
04.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $71,369,784
05.) @ Duke University - $67,986,188
06.) @ Boston College - $64,078,272
07.) @ Clemson University - $61,174,977
08.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $61,077,122
09.) @ University of Miami - $60,325,003
10.) # University of Pittsburgh - $56,044,309
11.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $54,711,001
12.) # Syracuse University - $51,433,840
13.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $46,910,364
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $42,286,588

2011

01.) # University of Louisville - $87,840,504
02.) @ Florida State University - $81,444,039
03.) @ University of Virginia - $81,321,219
04.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $78,830,350
05.) @ Duke University - $78,604,895
06.) # Syracuse University - $73,287,687
07.) @ Clemson University - $66,988,424
08.) @ Boston College - $66,197,029
09.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $65,507,243
10.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $64,801,681
11.) @ University of Miami - $62,099,601
12.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $60,253,966
13.) # University of Pittsburgh - $56,338,449
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $48,776,185

2012

01.) # University of Louisville - $96,193,329
02.) @ Florida State University - $89,145,159
03.) @ University of Virginia - $84,402,712
04.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $78,141,093
05.) @ Duke University - $76,366,113
06.) # Syracuse University - $76,329,618
07.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $73,446,347
08.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $69,845,483
09.) @ Clemson University - $68,163,948
10.) @ University of Miami - $67,253,273
11.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $63,630,964
12.) @ Boston College - $60,770,300
13.) # University of Pittsburgh - $57,606,235
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $48,830,266

2013

01.) @ Florida State University - $104,420,339
02.) & University of Louisville - $89,428,348
03.) @ Syracuse University - $87,647,822
04.) @ University of Virginia - $80,983,121
05.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $79,845,782
06.) @ Duke University - $79,645,699
07.) @ Clemson University - $73,791,753
08.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $73,015,503
09.) @ University of Miami - $71,785,978
10.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $70,500,811
11.) @ University of Pittsburgh - $66,089,664
12.) @ Boston College - $65,229,918
13.) @ Wake Forest University - $56,247,495
14.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $55,526,103

2014

01.) @ Florida State University - $121,319,469
02.) @ University of Louisville - $104,325,208
03.) @ Duke University - $91,688,202
04.) @ Syracuse University - $87,175,761
05.) @ University of Virginia - $87,059,237
06.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $85,288,270
07.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $81,298,133
08.) @ University of Miami - $77,724,833
09.) @ Clemson University - $76,979,261
10.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $76,839,435
11.) @ University of Pittsburgh - $70,527,488
12.) @ Boston College - $69,300,736
13.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $65,304,486
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $58,672,116

2015

01.) @ Florida State University - $123,334,314
02.) @ University of Louisville - $112,146,501
03.) @ University of Virginia - $100,632,835
04.) @ Clemson University - $95,800,326
05.) @ Duke University - $91,971,836
06.) @ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $90,969,518
07.) @ University of Miami - $85,615,972
08.) @ Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $84,064,779
09.) @ Syracuse University - $82,676,041
10.) @ North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $80,225,029
11.) @ University of Pittsburgh - $75,273,117
12.) @ Boston College - $71,314,082
13.) @ Georgia Institute of Technology - $62,360,693
14.) @ Wake Forest University - $62,053,971
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(03-12-2017 10:34 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 08:42 AM)TerryD Wrote:  UConn's subsidy equals almost 39% of its budget in this study:


Connecticut AAC $72,155,789 $72,062,423 $28,070,681 38.90


http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Thanks Terry. If you look at the numbers you will see that Virginia has about a 15% subsidy & NC, VT & GT has about a 10% subsidy. Meanwhile Cincinnati & USF has a 44% & 47% subsidy. So even if you cut UCONN subsidy in half they drop to the bottom of the ACC but still within about $5million of WF while on AAC $. Cincinnati & USF on the other hand are making the same amount on BE exit fees & subsidizing more than UCONN but are trailing well behind them in revenue, by these numbers. They are making around $9 million more on Rights/Licensing than Cincy & USF & about $5 million under what P5 makes on the low end. I have to remain impressed with UCONN here.

32 North Carolina ACC $89,128,256 $89,080,843 $9,040,407 10.14

40 Virginia Tech ACC $80,230,095 $77,679,721 $8,127,300 10.13

42 Georgia Tech ACC $77,202,758 $74,979,077 $7,271,782 9.42

54 Cincinnati AAC $52,536,185 $51,717,370 $23,182,129 44.13

59 South Fla AAC $45,479,012 $46,860,838 $21,774,572 47.88

(The numbers in this link are from 2015.)

It is important to know where the subsidy comes from.
I have mentioned this several times. The entire subsidy at UNC is a gift to the University by the Rams Club which covers all of the tution/academic expenses for every athlete on campus. This allows the university to utilize a like amount of money in other areas. Because of this gift the Rams Club is granted certain "privileges".
One could say that Stanford's entire athletic budget is a subsidy, as it is funded by an athletic endowment and is not a budget line item.
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It will be interesting to see where SU lands after the sanction wears off.
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Just want to point out that Temple has the lowest percentage subsidized athletic department of any state school outside of the P5 at ~25% which is in-line with ASU, and not terribly far off from Colorado. I'm not sure about every private school in the G5, but as far as I know, Tulsa and SMU are the only schools with lower percentage subsidized athletic departments (yes, Tulane is subsidized more than we are at ~38%). New Mexico is 2nd at just over 26%. After them is Boise at just over 28%.
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RE: NCAA Division I-FBS Athletic Department Revenues
(03-11-2017 04:56 PM)omniorange Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:08 AM)EnterSandman Wrote:  Info From Equity in Athletics

Reporting Year: 07/01/2015 - 06/30/2016

Total Revenues by Team

Atlantic Coast Conference

01.) Florida State University - $123,334,314
02.) University of Louisville - $112,146,501
03.) University of Virginia - $100,632,835
04.) Clemson University - $95,800,326
05.) Duke University - $91,971,836
06.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $90,969,518
07.) University of Miami - $85,615,972
08.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $84,064,779
09.) Syracuse University - $82,676,041
10.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $80,225,029
11.) University of Pittsburgh - $75,273,117
12.) Boston College - $71,314,082
13.) Georgia Institute of Technology - $62,360,693
14.) Wake Forest University - $62,053,971

If SU doesn't turn its football around quickly, we might have trouble maintaining the $80 million revenue mark. Thankfully, I think Dino will turn things around by the middle of Year 3.

Cheers,
Neil

Football and basketball attendance were both off in 2015-16 from 2014-15 levels, which is presumably the reason for the drop in revenues. Basketball attendance dropped from 430,000 to 370,000, but did return to 430,000 for 2016-17. Football attendance is harder to compare because we played one home game at MetLife versus Notre Dame this year, but was definitely better in 2016-17 than 2015-16.
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