Not only do Uconn, Cincy etc gain from Exit fees but they also made a huge amount of Louisville's winnings in 2012 and 2013 -- that we had to forfeit in the move to the ACC. We had a Final Four income from 2012 and a Sugar Bowl and NCAA Championship plus ladies runner up money from 2013 -- all left with the AAC -- or possibly some from 2012 left with the BE.

(03-15-2017 05:22 PM)uldn Wrote:  Not only do Uconn, Cincy etc gain from Exit fees but they also made a huge amount of Louisville's winnings in 2012 and 2013 -- that we had to forfeit in the move to the ACC. We had a Final Four income from 2012 and a Sugar Bowl and NCAA Championship plus ladies runner up money from 2013 -- all left with the AAC -- or possibly some from 2012 left with the BE.

No doubt that UConn, Cincy and USF are still receiving revenues relating to the departures of former members of the Big East. What is interesting is how much greater UConn's revenues are than those of either Cincy or USF. Clearly, there is more than exit fees and left over NCAA tournament credits.

(03-16-2017 01:41 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 05:22 PM)uldn Wrote:  Not only do Uconn, Cincy etc gain from Exit fees but they also made a huge amount of Louisville's winnings in 2012 and 2013 -- that we had to forfeit in the move to the ACC. We had a Final Four income from 2012 and a Sugar Bowl and NCAA Championship plus ladies runner up money from 2013 -- all left with the AAC -- or possibly some from 2012 left with the BE.

No doubt that UConn, Cincy and USF are still receiving revenues relating to the departures of former members of the Big East. What is interesting is how much greater UConn's revenues are than those of either Cincy or USF. Clearly, there is more than exit fees and left over NCAA tournament credits.

According to the links UCONN is making over $25 million on Rights & Licensing, roughly $9 million more than both Cincinnati & USF. UCONN is within roughly $5 million of the low end of P5's Rights & Licensing.

(03-16-2017 02:43 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 01:41 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 05:22 PM)uldn Wrote:  Not only do Uconn, Cincy etc gain from Exit fees but they also made a huge amount of Louisville's winnings in 2012 and 2013 -- that we had to forfeit in the move to the ACC. We had a Final Four income from 2012 and a Sugar Bowl and NCAA Championship plus ladies runner up money from 2013 -- all left with the AAC -- or possibly some from 2012 left with the BE.

No doubt that UConn, Cincy and USF are still receiving revenues relating to the departures of former members of the Big East. What is interesting is how much greater UConn's revenues are than those of either Cincy or USF. Clearly, there is more than exit fees and left over NCAA tournament credits.

According to the links UCONN is making over $25 million on Rights & Licensing, roughly $9 million more than both Cincinnati & USF. UCONN is within roughly $5 million of the low end of P5's Rights & Licensing.

Perhaps particularly favorable deals with IMG (for marketing and multimedia rights) and their apparel partner (Nike or whoever).

(03-16-2017 03:19 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 02:43 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 01:41 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 05:22 PM)uldn Wrote:  Not only do Uconn, Cincy etc gain from Exit fees but they also made a huge amount of Louisville's winnings in 2012 and 2013 -- that we had to forfeit in the move to the ACC. We had a Final Four income from 2012 and a Sugar Bowl and NCAA Championship plus ladies runner up money from 2013 -- all left with the AAC -- or possibly some from 2012 left with the BE.

No doubt that UConn, Cincy and USF are still receiving revenues relating to the departures of former members of the Big East. What is interesting is how much greater UConn's revenues are than those of either Cincy or USF. Clearly, there is more than exit fees and left over NCAA tournament credits.

According to the links UCONN is making over $25 million on Rights & Licensing, roughly $9 million more than both Cincinnati & USF. UCONN is within roughly $5 million of the low end of P5's Rights & Licensing.

Perhaps particularly favorable deals with IMG (for marketing and multimedia rights) and their apparel partner (Nike or whoever).

I wonder if they were inked in the AAC or BIG EAST.

(03-12-2017 01:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  It is important to know where the subsidy comes from.

Exactly.

A large part of Clemson's athletic "subsidy" is from the University charging the athletic department in-state tuition for out of state student-athletes. Clemson does not charge it's students a specific athletics fee like most schools.

The numbers are only what is reported, each school and each state have differing reporting requirements.

As noted, UConn is bolstered by hefty infusions from other sources than actual sports generated revenues (I include individual donations as sports generated revenue o long as the donation is for athletics but do not include Institution donations from the general fund, student fees, loans, etc. as sports generated revenue).

Rutgers is also very overstated. It appears as though Rutgers may have used Student fees, a loan and the general fund for as much as $39MM, or roughly half of their stated revenue. If so, that results in a sports generated revenue of about $39MM, well below most P5 schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/12/sport....html?_r=0