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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 01:00 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:42 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  You figured it out. It's a conspiracy against UMKC. The WAC has it in for the Roos.

I don't think it has anything to do with UMKC. If UTRGV beat us then it would have been the same. The WAC likes the $$$ from NMSU fans. Too hard to resist. Missouri grad Commish knows the $$$. NMSU could have Chicago ST roster and would still make it to the championship.

The stats from last nights game show the story. 25 to 16 fouls. 33-19 fts. Early Bonus when down and can't make a shot. UMKC shot the ball 15 more times than NMSU. NMSU shot more 3 pointers and presses. Its highly unusual that that style of team shoots significantly more FT.

There is a reason your top 50 in Luck in Kenpom.

Let me try to reason with someone who obviously has no basketball knowledge. NMSU typically gets lots of attempts at free throw line because they take the ball inside a lot. Roos were jacking up perimeter shots so no fouls. To suggest Hurd has fixed these games is absurd and needs to be a new episode on conspiracy theories. I guess I'll let you live your fantasy through GCU since you obviously have no faith in your team, oh wait. I forgot. It's Hurds fault UMKC sucks.
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 01:45 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 01:00 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:42 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  You figured it out. It's a conspiracy against UMKC. The WAC has it in for the Roos.

I don't think it has anything to do with UMKC. If UTRGV beat us then it would have been the same. The WAC likes the $$$ from NMSU fans. Too hard to resist. Missouri grad Commish knows the $$$. NMSU could have Chicago ST roster and would still make it to the championship.

The stats from last nights game show the story. 25 to 16 fouls. 33-19 fts. Early Bonus when down and can't make a shot. UMKC shot the ball 15 more times than NMSU. NMSU shot more 3 pointers and presses. Its highly unusual that that style of team shoots significantly more FT.

There is a reason your top 50 in Luck in Kenpom.

Let me try to reason with someone who obviously has no basketball knowledge. NMSU typically gets lots of attempts at free throw line because they take the ball inside a lot. Roos were jacking up perimeter shots so no fouls. To suggest Hurd has fixed these games is absurd and needs to be a new episode on conspiracy theories. I guess I'll let you live your fantasy through GCU since you obviously have no faith in your team, oh wait. I forgot. It's Hurds fault UMKC sucks.

100% agree with your logic. NMSU shot five more 3s. UMKC shot 22, yes that is 22 more 2 pt shots than NMSU yet UMKC shot 14 less free throws and does not press.These are facts. I like how no NMSU fan can explain or rationalize this fact? Just label it a conspiracy when I point out facts.

I think all the teams in the WAC besides Bakersfield suck btw including UMKC and NMSU. All the teams beside Chicago St and Bakersfield are pretty even in being terrible.

Home cooking in sports is nothing new in sports. That why home teams get +5 on the spread in Vegas.
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 01:55 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 01:45 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 01:00 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:42 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  You figured it out. It's a conspiracy against UMKC. The WAC has it in for the Roos.

I don't think it has anything to do with UMKC. If UTRGV beat us then it would have been the same. The WAC likes the $$$ from NMSU fans. Too hard to resist. Missouri grad Commish knows the $$$. NMSU could have Chicago ST roster and would still make it to the championship.

The stats from last nights game show the story. 25 to 16 fouls. 33-19 fts. Early Bonus when down and can't make a shot. UMKC shot the ball 15 more times than NMSU. NMSU shot more 3 pointers and presses. Its highly unusual that that style of team shoots significantly more FT.

There is a reason your top 50 in Luck in Kenpom.

Let me try to reason with someone who obviously has no basketball knowledge. NMSU typically gets lots of attempts at free throw line because they take the ball inside a lot. Roos were jacking up perimeter shots so no fouls. To suggest Hurd has fixed these games is absurd and needs to be a new episode on conspiracy theories. I guess I'll let you live your fantasy through GCU since you obviously have no faith in your team, oh wait. I forgot. It's Hurds fault UMKC sucks.

100% agree with your logic. NMSU shot five more 3s. UMKC shot 22, yes that is 22 more 2 pt shots than NMSU yet UMKC shot 14 less free throws and does not press.These are facts. I like how no NMSU fan can explain or rationalize this fact? Just label it a conspiracy when I point out facts.

I think all the teams in the WAC besides Bakersfield suck btw including UMKC and NMSU. All the teams beside Chicago St and Bakersfield are pretty even in being terrible.

Home cooking in sports is nothing new in sports. That why home teams get +5 on the spread in Vegas.

How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?
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The KenPOM Luck Coefficient is unusually high for those teams. UMKC is also off the chart but thats because they beat teams they shouldn't have early in the season when they still had their best player. There is debate whether Luck is about randomness, coaching, opponents not giving you their best game, different home court advantages etc...

If you look at Seattle, UTRGV, UVU they are really low in Luck.
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 01:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 09:56 AM)LopesUp Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 09:42 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 04:05 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 02:52 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  I guess we could have it at your gym since no fans go to your games?

http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/sports/c.../95167796/

Our final attendance average was over 5000 per game with our best game ironically vs. UMKC with almost 10000 compared to your games where you can't even get 1000. Attendance problems are an issue in general with college basketball with the exception of Grand Canyon. So far your post are ridiculous. The fact your ranting about being is the MVC when you can't even win the WAC is hilarious and very entertaining. Please keep posting.
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(03-11-2017 01:44 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 01:00 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:42 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  You figured it out. It's a conspiracy against UMKC. The WAC has it in for the Roos.

I don't think it has anything to do with UMKC. If UTRGV beat us then it would have been the same. The WAC likes the $$$ from NMSU fans. Too hard to resist. Missouri grad Commish knows the $$$. NMSU could have Chicago ST roster and would still make it to the championship.

The stats from last nights game show the story. 25 to 16 fouls. 33-19 fts. Early Bonus when down and can't make a shot. UMKC shot the ball 15 more times than NMSU. NMSU shot more 3 pointers and presses. Its highly unusual that that style of team shoots significantly more FT.

There is a reason your top 50 in Luck in Kenpom.

Let me try to reason with someone who obviously has no basketball knowledge. NMSU typically gets lots of attempts at free throw line because they take the ball inside a lot. Roos were jacking up perimeter shots so no fouls. To suggest Hurd has fixed these games is absurd and needs to be a new episode on conspiracy theories. I guess I'll let you live your fantasy through GCU since you obviously have no faith in your team, oh wait. I forgot. It's Hurds fault UMKC sucks.


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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 04:04 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?

The KenPOM Luck Coefficient is unusually high for those teams. UMKC is also off the chart but thats because they beat teams they shouldn't have early in the season when they still had their best player. There is debate whether Luck is about randomness, coaching, opponents not giving you their best game, different home court advantages etc...

If you look at Seattle, UTRGV, UVU they are really low in Luck.
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03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao cause luck is the only reason teams win games, right.... Just go back into your cave, we'll all be the better for it.
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(03-11-2017 06:38 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 04:04 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?

The KenPOM Luck Coefficient is unusually high for those teams. UMKC is also off the chart but thats because they beat teams they shouldn't have early in the season when they still had their best player. There is debate whether Luck is about randomness, coaching, opponents not giving you their best game, different home court advantages etc...

If you look at Seattle, UTRGV, UVU they are really low in Luck.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao cause luck is the only reason teams win games, right.... Just go back into your cave, we'll all be the better for it.
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Luck is just difference between predictive results and realized results. Stats 101
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 06:58 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 06:38 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 04:04 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?

The KenPOM Luck Coefficient is unusually high for those teams. UMKC is also off the chart but thats because they beat teams they shouldn't have early in the season when they still had their best player. There is debate whether Luck is about randomness, coaching, opponents not giving you their best game, different home court advantages etc...

If you look at Seattle, UTRGV, UVU they are really low in Luck.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao cause luck is the only reason teams win games, right.... Just go back into your cave, we'll all be the better for it.

Luck is just difference between predictive results and realized results. Stats 101
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Yes, but you are saying teams like GCU and NMSU are crap because they play better than they are predicted to or play great defense that causes their opponents to play worse than they normally. You are completely discounting the fact that teams can cause their opponent to play differently than they normally do. Don't just use one stat to try and prove your point.
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RE: GCU Passes on Postseason
(03-11-2017 07:59 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 06:58 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 06:38 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 04:04 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  How does one lump NMSU/GCU when comparing with SU UMKC UTRGV UVU?

The KenPOM Luck Coefficient is unusually high for those teams. UMKC is also off the chart but thats because they beat teams they shouldn't have early in the season when they still had their best player. There is debate whether Luck is about randomness, coaching, opponents not giving you their best game, different home court advantages etc...

If you look at Seattle, UTRGV, UVU they are really low in Luck.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao cause luck is the only reason teams win games, right.... Just go back into your cave, we'll all be the better for it.

Luck is just difference between predictive results and realized results. Stats 101

The model takes defensive efficiency into predicted results. Luck is independent of offensive and defensive efficiency, SOS, and really anything to do with the game besides coaching.

http://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjDE

Defense is in the model. New Mexico St is above average but nothing great. Bakersfield who notice I do not criticize is head and shoulders the best defensive team in the WAC. If they had any kind of offense they could be ranked. Grand Canyon is similar to Bakersfield in this way. Coaching is most likely probable for the high luck in GCU this season and last season. It could be the same for NMSU. I'm less certain about that.
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(03-10-2017 07:04 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(03-10-2017 06:39 PM)gleadley Wrote:  The article was updated this afternoon with info from Coach Majerle confirming games on the road at Louisville & Illinois next year. It also sounds like St. Mary's is coming to play at GCU. The team has an overseas trip on the books for this summer to Spain or the Bahamas.

Also the last line with a big man visiting this weekend that will maybe fill out the roster?? Here are some highlights from the FIBA U18 Euro championships where he averaged some really decent numbers and it looks like he's got a good motor with some skill running the high pick and roll. Plus he runs the floor a majority of the time.
EDIT: It looks like he is making an official visit with Georgia Tech today.

According to verbalcommits, Alessandro Lever (6' 10", 210-lbs) committed to GCU. Looks like he liked GCU better than Georgia Tech. A good pick up.
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