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(03-09-2017 01:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:37 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:16 PM)Punk Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 12:49 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  "Nobody cares about bathrooms either way." Just because you don't (and personally, I don't) doesn't mean that no one cares.

As long as they aren't like the ones in the Richmond Coliseum...

I always had a hard time distinguishing between the seats and the bathrooms at the Brown Dump. They both smelled the same and neither had running water.

And your feet stuck to the floor.

That was the seating area. The bathrooms usually had an inch of water standing on the floor.

(03-09-2017 02:46 PM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:37 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:16 PM)Punk Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 12:49 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  "Nobody cares about bathrooms either way." Just because you don't (and personally, I don't) doesn't mean that no one cares.

As long as they aren't like the ones in the Richmond Coliseum...

I always had a hard time distinguishing between the seats and the bathrooms at the Brown Dump. They both smelled the same and neither had running water.

And your feet stuck to the floor.

That was the seating area. The bathrooms usually had an inch of water standing on the floor.

If you want to call it water. More like a water/soda/piss/vomit mixture resembling the VCU uniforms.

sorry dude, but that was not water......

and those weren't smelly homeless people either....

(03-09-2017 11:38 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  A long, long time ago, the purpose of the ACC tournament-- the first one staged -- was to raise money for the conference. I know it's great to have a second chance at an NCAA bid and all, but if CUSA isn't making anything on this deal, what's the point? Give the regular-season winner the automatic bid; hell, they exhibited more sustained excellence doing that than anything that happens over 3 days. The stands are virtually empty in B'ham and I'm not enthused about any of the other places people have put forth here. But that's just me.

No, because non-power conferences get few enough NCAA bids as is. If NCAA tournament bids were given only to regular conference champions like CUSA, (and presumably others) more pieces of the pie would find their way into the already bloated guts of P5 conferences.

(03-09-2017 04:40 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:38 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  A long, long time ago, the purpose of the ACC tournament-- the first one staged -- was to raise money for the conference. I know it's great to have a second chance at an NCAA bid and all, but if CUSA isn't making anything on this deal, what's the point? Give the regular-season winner the automatic bid; hell, they exhibited more sustained excellence doing that than anything that happens over 3 days. The stands are virtually empty in B'ham and I'm not enthused about any of the other places people have put forth here. But that's just me.

No, because non-power conferences get few enough NCAA bids as is. If NCAA tournament bids were given only to regular conference champions like CUSA, (and presumably others) more pieces of the pie would find their way into the already bloated guts of P5 conferences.

Yep. And this is why you hear all of the ESPN commentators pushing this notion now. ESPN is determined to eliminate as many no power conference teams as possible and sadly, as they are moving away from carrying G5 conference packages, this is already happening. There is a reason the bubble doesn't include many G5s this year, and that reason is no exposure from ESPN. If they don't have the package, they don't talk about you, they don't show your highlights, and you basically don't exist. And once they get the methodology changed for how the committee evaluates teams, you can bet there will be even less room for mid majors.

(03-09-2017 04:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 04:40 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:38 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  A long, long time ago, the purpose of the ACC tournament-- the first one staged -- was to raise money for the conference. I know it's great to have a second chance at an NCAA bid and all, but if CUSA isn't making anything on this deal, what's the point? Give the regular-season winner the automatic bid; hell, they exhibited more sustained excellence doing that than anything that happens over 3 days. The stands are virtually empty in B'ham and I'm not enthused about any of the other places people have put forth here. But that's just me.

No, because non-power conferences get few enough NCAA bids as is. If NCAA tournament bids were given only to regular conference champions like CUSA, (and presumably others) more pieces of the pie would find their way into the already bloated guts of P5 conferences.

Yep. And this is why you hear all of the ESPN commentators pushing this notion now. ESPN is determined to eliminate as many no power conference teams as possible and sadly, as they are moving away from carrying G5 conference packages, this is already happening. There is a reason the bubble doesn't include many G5s this year, and that reason is no exposure from ESPN. If they don't have the package, they don't talk about you, they don't show your highlights, and you basically don't exist. And once they get the methodology changed for how the committee evaluates teams, you can bet there will be even less room for mid majors.

Their problem is that the first weekend of the tournament is arguably the best 4-days of sports of the whole year. The reason is that the games are amazing and people love to see teams they've never heard of knock off/upset the teams that they have heard of. If ESPN/NCAA could convince the watching public that they don't want that then they'll win and we'll all lose.

(03-09-2017 05:03 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  If ESPN/NCAA could convince the watching public that they don't want that then they'll win and we'll all lose.

Jay Bilas has been trying for years. If he had it his way, it would just be the high majors. The self righteous indignation he permeates in regards to low and mid majors when they win is laughable.

(03-09-2017 05:03 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 04:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 04:40 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:38 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  A long, long time ago, the purpose of the ACC tournament-- the first one staged -- was to raise money for the conference. I know it's great to have a second chance at an NCAA bid and all, but if CUSA isn't making anything on this deal, what's the point? Give the regular-season winner the automatic bid; hell, they exhibited more sustained excellence doing that than anything that happens over 3 days. The stands are virtually empty in B'ham and I'm not enthused about any of the other places people have put forth here. But that's just me.

No, because non-power conferences get few enough NCAA bids as is. If NCAA tournament bids were given only to regular conference champions like CUSA, (and presumably others) more pieces of the pie would find their way into the already bloated guts of P5 conferences.

Yep. And this is why you hear all of the ESPN commentators pushing this notion now. ESPN is determined to eliminate as many no power conference teams as possible and sadly, as they are moving away from carrying G5 conference packages, this is already happening. There is a reason the bubble doesn't include many G5s this year, and that reason is no exposure from ESPN. If they don't have the package, they don't talk about you, they don't show your highlights, and you basically don't exist. And once they get the methodology changed for how the committee evaluates teams, you can bet there will be even less room for mid majors.

Their problem is that the first weekend of the tournament is arguably the best 4-days of sports of the whole year. The reason is that the games are amazing and people love to see teams they've never heard of knock off/upset the teams that they have heard of. If ESPN/NCAA could convince the watching public that they don't want that then they'll win and we'll all lose.

Yep, but ESPN pretty much destroys every one of its cash cows eventually. If they have their way, college hoops will be the next victim. They lack so much perspective it is uncanny.

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(03-09-2017 06:02 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 05:03 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  If ESPN/NCAA could convince the watching public that they don't want that then they'll win and we'll all lose.

Jay Bilas has been trying for years. If he had it his way, it would just be the high majors. The self righteous indignation he permeates in regards to low and mid majors when they win is laughable.

Yes, Bilas is...

What about Asheville, NC? It's the right size city for our conference tournament.

(03-09-2017 07:29 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  What about Asheville, NC? It's the right size city for our conference tournament.

A beautuful location, with lots to do (breweries, restaurants, art, Biltmore) but, I think we need a place that is easier to fly into and out of. Also, the way league rules are, with women and men needing to play in the same city, I doubt they have two suitable venues, or enough practice facilities nearby.