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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-10-2017 12:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  They played in the MEAC for 4 years

Irrelevant, they were never members of DI. So you can't leave something you were never a part of.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-11-2017 12:43 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:54 PM)3BNole Wrote:  I believe with Birmingham Southern, starting football and the costs of that were also part of the decision. Being a college baseball fan, losing both of those teams really was a shame as they were both pretty good in the sport and had some tradition.

Actually, it wasn't just costs for Birmingham Southern. It was a chance to generate revenue. They made the decision to start a D3 football team, so they had all those new students coming in to play football, paying tuition. The D1 basketball and baseball team was a casualty of this decision.

If Birmingham-Southern had just waited a few more years, they could have had a spot if the Pioneer League with Stetson and Jacksonville. The Pioneer didn't have an autobid like it does now. Birmingham-Southern could have got a tuition paying football team without sacrificing DI.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
That last statement is only partially true.

All those Pioneer teams, but especially the private schools, use the DIII model for athletics: no "athletic scholarships", per se, but we'll make sure you don't pay full tuition, somehow.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
I like division 3 sports so nothing wrong with the model. A school like Davidson could very well be better off in d3 and not worry about spending the effort for d1. I mean Kenyon college does fine as a school being d3.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-12-2017 11:42 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-10-2017 12:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  They played in the MEAC for 4 years

Irrelevant, they were never members of DI. So you can't leave something you were never a part of.

wrong! MEAC is a D-I conf. they were in, you can pretend they weren't in it for 4 YEARS!
Starting w/ their 2nd year in D-I their games counted as D-I games for them and their opponents as well.
"Winston-Salem State competed in Division I from the 2007–08 season to the 2009–10 season as a transitional member of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC); it returned to Division II in 2010 for financial reasons" You can't return to D-II if you never left.

Done talking about this w/ you. make your own list!
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-12-2017 03:15 PM)bluesox Wrote:  I like division 3 sports so nothing wrong with the model. A school like Davidson could very well be better off in d3 and not worry about spending the effort for d1. I mean Kenyon college does fine as a school being d3.

But you get zero exposure. Everyone remembers their run with Steph Curry. Had history gone slightly differently, they would have been in the ACC and as it is are only a step or two below in the A-10.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
That is why Rowan wants to move up from D3 to D1 for the exposure. As is, nobody is getting the exposure at the lower levels. That is why a lot of schools from D2 looking at going to D1 which includes most of the Texas schools in the Lonestar conference.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-12-2017 06:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  MEAC is a D-I conf. they were in, you can pretend they weren't in it for 4 YEARS!

At the end of the five year exploratory period, WSSU decided it would not be in its best self interest to join NCAA DI.

Thus, it never became a member of NCAA DI. Therefore, it did not leave NCAA DI.


Those are just facts. Your list is false, to include them.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-13-2017 10:22 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 06:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  MEAC is a D-I conf. they were in, you can pretend they weren't in it for 4 YEARS!

At the end of the five year exploratory period, WSSU decided it would not be in its best self interest to join NCAA DI.

Thus, it never became a member of NCAA DI. Therefore, it did not leave NCAA DI.


Those are just facts. Your list is false, to include them.

Wiki agrees w/ me the CIAA and MEAC agreed w/ me. All of us>>>>>>>>>you and your continuous b*tching about my list.

Also to piss more into your cherrios ACU, UIW, GCU, UM-Lowell have been playing D-I since 2013 even though they're provisional. NCAA counts all of their games as D-I starting yr 2 just like they did WSSU. Is ACU, UIW, GCU, UM-Lowell playing D-II sports now or D-I? The answer is D-I. Provisional or not they've been D-I since 2013.
During year 1 you are not considered D-I or D-II by the NCAA during the transition to the schools you play. The 2nd year you count as a D-I member when you play other D-I schools according the the NCAA.
Question? Has GCU been playing in D-I WAC or D-II PWC the last few years? Has UM-Lowell been playing in D-I AEC or D-II NE-10 the last few years? Has ACU and UIW been playing in the D-I SLC or D-II LSC & Heartland the last few years? Did WSSU play in the D-I MEAC from 2006-10 or D-II CIAA from 06-10?

Most important is I can include whoever the f*ck want in my list, because it is MY LIST.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-14-2017 03:09 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 10:22 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 06:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  MEAC is a D-I conf. they were in, you can pretend they weren't in it for 4 YEARS!

At the end of the five year exploratory period, WSSU decided it would not be in its best self interest to join NCAA DI.

Thus, it never became a member of NCAA DI. Therefore, it did not leave NCAA DI.


Those are just facts. Your list is false, to include them.

Wiki agrees w/ me the CIAA and MEAC agreed w/ me. All of us>>>>>>>>>you and your continuous b*tching about my list.

Also to piss more into your cherrios ACU, UIW, GCU, UM-Lowell have been playing D-I since 2013 even though they're provisional. NCAA counts all of their games as D-I starting yr 2 just like they did WSSU. Is ACU, UIW, GCU, UM-Lowell playing D-II sports now or D-I? The answer is D-I. Provisional or not they've been D-I since 2013.
During year 1 you are not considered D-I or D-II by the NCAA during the transition to the schools you play. The 2nd year you count as a D-I member when you play other D-I schools according the the NCAA.
Question? Has GCU been playing in D-I WAC or D-II PWC the last few years? Has UM-Lowell been playing in D-I AEC or D-II NE-10 the last few years? Has ACU and UIW been playing in the D-I SLC or D-II LSC & Heartland the last few years? Did WSSU play in the D-I MEAC from 2006-10 or D-II CIAA from 06-10?

Most important is I can include whoever the f*ck want in my list, because it is MY LIST.


I believe ACU was could have been considered D1 in the University era. One of those that went up and down.
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