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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
Once Centenary's attempt to join the Southland failed it cleared the path. The Summit had made a run at trying to add Arkansas-Little Rock, South Alabama and New Orleans (before USA added football) with that failing Centenary started getting serious about the Southland. Back in the TAAC (ASun) they had games against UALR and UL Monroe, NW State, etc in the Louisiana and Texas area. After they all left Centenary never really had a good fit.
While there was some controversy, there was a great deal of support for Division III as being more compatible with Centenary as a small liberal arts college with less than 600 undergrad students.

Birmingham Southern likewise considered the move a better fit and the only way to viably add football, which they felt fit the region.

New Orleans was under tight financial circumstances in Division I post-Katrina and while they initially announced for Division III they quickly changed their mind and were going Division II and talking seriously of adding football, I think that football talk coupled with UNO moving from the LSU system to the UL System where athletics have a bit more financial freedom spurred the interest of the Southland so they moved back to Division I.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-09-2017 12:50 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Once Centenary's attempt to join the Southland failed it cleared the path. The Summit had made a run at trying to add Arkansas-Little Rock, South Alabama and New Orleans (before USA added football) with that failing Centenary started getting serious about the Southland. Back in the TAAC (ASun) they had games against UALR and UL Monroe, NW State, etc in the Louisiana and Texas area. After they all left Centenary never really had a good fit.
While there was some controversy, there was a great deal of support for Division III as being more compatible with Centenary as a small liberal arts college with less than 600 undergrad students.

Birmingham Southern likewise considered the move a better fit and the only way to viably add football, which they felt fit the region.

New Orleans was under tight financial circumstances in Division I post-Katrina and while they initially announced for Division III they quickly changed their mind and were going Division II and talking seriously of adding football, I think that football talk coupled with UNO moving from the LSU system to the UL System where athletics have a bit more financial freedom spurred the interest of the Southland so they moved back to Division I.

is this around the time UNO was kicked out of a conference?
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
New Orleans was in danger of being kicked out of Division I. The Sun Belt required 15 sports with a four year grace period, they weren't even at the NCAA minimum 14 and were looking to extend the post-Katrina waiver.

The commissioner was working with them on their package to request waiver extensions from the NCAA and the conference and gets a call from a reporter asking for a comment on their announced move to Division III. He called the president told him he understood and asked if they could have lunch and told them if they were leaving Division I they should seriously consider Division II instead of III and use it as an opportunity to add football.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-08-2017 11:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  Ah, the Centenary Gents: alma mater of the journeyman Robert Parish.

Beat me to it, they were just too small to compete in the end, granted, they could have been just fine in the Southland.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
Northeastern Illinois did it in the 90s and HBCU Morris Brown did in the mid 2000s as well.
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(03-09-2017 09:33 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Northeastern Illinois did it in the 90s and HBCU Morris Brown did in the mid 2000s as well.

And Houston Baptist did it then came back.
Oklahoma City University left NCAA Division I and now plays in the NAIA (left mid-80ish time period).
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
FWIW when the SWAC and MEAC were fighting the adoption of the higher academic standards, there was some serious thought given to moving to the NAIA where the association only requires the athlete to meet the school's standards for admission without waiver.

In the end the value of NCAA turnback and playing name schools in hoops resulted in the decision to stay.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
(03-09-2017 09:48 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 09:33 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Northeastern Illinois did it in the 90s and HBCU Morris Brown did in the mid 2000s as well.

And Houston Baptist did it then came back.
Oklahoma City University left NCAA Division I and now plays in the NAIA (left mid-80ish time period).


OKCU wanted to come back in 2007 2008 period and add football as well. I think if they added football and rejoin D1? They could be in the Southland Conference for all sports.
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RE: Are there any recent examples of a team moving out of Division I.
Grinnell Iowa was part of the Big 12 group. So was Washington, Missouri.
Sewannee was a former SEC founder.
Cal. State-LA was part of what is now called the Big West.
West Texas A&M and Washburn were former MVC members.
Baltimore was D1 until they dropped sports.
Catholic U. was D1.
Augusta was D1.
Trinity Texas was part of Southland at one time.
Southwestern was part of SWC.
Phillips, now closed was SWC.
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