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RE: Northern Kentucky was correct invite after all!
(03-14-2017 08:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 09:08 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  That region of the country has always been underrated for producing some good basketball teams. UC, Xavier, and Dayton always, but at one time Miami was the class of the MAC as well. Not to mention others like IU and UK not unbelievably too far down the road, but they're not exactly under-the-radar programs.

UC, XU, Dayton, UK, Louisville, Ohio State, Butler, NKU, Wright State, Miami (all within 100 miles within Greater Cincinnati).

IU, Purdue and Akron just a little further out. We don't get the love that other regions in the country get, but we have some fine basketball region. I've always wanted an early season tournament, but egos have always prevailed and it hasn't happened.

You are absolutely right. Although as a homer, I would say the epicenter is about 100 miles to the southeast. 04-cheers

Using Louisville as the epicenter, within a 200 mile radius of Louisville, you can find UofL, UK, IU, Purdue, Cincinnati, Xavier, Ohio State, Dayton, NKU, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, and teams who do make the tournament regularly such as Western Kentucky, Murray and Morehead States.

Plus of top ten NCAA tournament markets, you will also find Louisville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Nashville, and Dayton

No matter what the distance, Cincinnati is closer to more quality basketball schools:

50 miles from Louisville: 1 NCAA tourney team (Lousville)
50 miles from Cincinnati: 4 NCAA tourney teams (Cincinnati, Xavier, NKU, Dayton)

100 miles from Louisville: UofL, IU, UK, UC, Butler, Xavier
100 miles from Cincinnati: All those schools plus Dayton, OSU, and Butler

200 miles from Louisville: UofL, IU, UK, UC, Butler, Xavier, Dayton, OSU, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Illinois, and Tennessee
200 miles from Cincinnati: The same except swap Notre Dame for Vanderbilt

250 miles from Louisville: UofL, IU, UK, UC, Butler, Xavier, Dayton, OSU, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Illinois, Tennessee, Notre Dame, and St. Louis
250 miles from Cincinnati: The same except swap St. Louis for Michigan, Pitt, West Virginia, and (just barely) Virginia Tech
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RE: Northern Kentucky was correct invite after all!
When we were DII, the Great Lakes Valley Conference always seemed to have top notch basketball. It isn't very old, but SIUE and NKU are the only DI grads from it. UMSL, Southern Indiana, and Bellarmine always seemed to have the potential to foĺlow.

When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.
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(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  When we were DII, the Great Lakes Valley Conference always seemed to have top notch basketball. It isn't very old, but SIUE and NKU are the only DI grads from it. UMSL, Southern Indiana, and Bellarmine always seemed to have the potential to foĺlow.

When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.

FWIW, I don't think UMSL will ever move up to DI, they're a commuter school with a relatively mediocre athletic department and only a dozen or so scholarship sports IIRC. Lindenwood in nearby St. Charles will move up to DI if anyone in the St. Louis area does.
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(03-14-2017 09:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  When we were DII, the Great Lakes Valley Conference always seemed to have top notch basketball. It isn't very old, but SIUE and NKU are the only DI grads from it. UMSL, Southern Indiana, and Bellarmine always seemed to have the potential to foĺlow.

When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.

FWIW, I don't think UMSL will ever move up to DI, they're a commuter school with a relatively mediocre athletic department and only a dozen or so scholarship sports IIRC. Lindenwood in nearby St. Charles will move up to DI if anyone in the St. Louis area does.

This. Lindenwood would be the one to move up. They have struggled at D2 though. The Westplex is almost like its own little metro area.
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(03-14-2017 10:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 09:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  When we were DII, the Great Lakes Valley Conference always seemed to have top notch basketball. It isn't very old, but SIUE and NKU are the only DI grads from it. UMSL, Southern Indiana, and Bellarmine always seemed to have the potential to foĺlow.

When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.

FWIW, I don't think UMSL will ever move up to DI, they're a commuter school with a relatively mediocre athletic department and only a dozen or so scholarship sports IIRC. Lindenwood in nearby St. Charles will move up to DI if anyone in the St. Louis area does.

This. Lindenwood would be the one to move up. They have struggled at D2 though. The Westplex is almost like its own little metro area.

Have been expecting Lindenwood to move up at least in hockey, where they are now club. But their women's hockey team is DI, and it's the only school other than Syracuse the has a DI women's hockey but not DI men's hockey.

When Lindenwood was NAIA, they won everything, but have really fallen off that pace, as NCAA restrictions are much more limiting. U of Sioux Falls, U of Mary, and Minot St have also experienced this.
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(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.

It's amazing to read something like this, especially from someone who isn't from the area.

I graduated from NKU in 2006 and the arena was only talked about in whispers. Then it happened and it took some time to get a D1 invite. Then after 3 years of losing and VERY poor coaching, the school made a bold move to bring in a new coach AND got the Horizon invite right around the same time. I feared it would take time to be competitive, with such a big step up.

But now, the sky is the limit. Hopefully they continue to compete year in and year out. Maybe NKU doesn't reach the Wichita State/Gonzaga level of mid-major success, but giving themselves a very good chance to win the Horizon every year and establishing themselves as an upper-tier team in the league would be amazing.

The school is also (FINALLY) getting some local media attention, which could be a HUGE boost to the program. Not to mention finally getting some of the students and alumni more involved. They've been very slowly building attendance since moving to D1. Anyone who isn't from the area may not understand, but there was so little media coverage when they first moved up that, 5 years later, some people around here weren't even aware they were D1.

There is a lot of basketball talent in greater Cincinnati and also a lot of overlooked talent in the state of Kentucky (which is what coach Brannen is going after the most). If they can keep hitting on those guys, they can keep winning.
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(03-15-2017 07:59 AM)insomniaisevil Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  When Northern Kentucky got that new arena built, which is better than most DI arenas not at P5 levels, it seemed to scream that a big time DI program was born.

It's amazing to read something like this, especially from someone who isn't from the area.

I graduated from NKU in 2006 and the arena was only talked about in whispers. Then it happened and it took some time to get a D1 invite. Then after 3 years of losing and VERY poor coaching, the school made a bold move to bring in a new coach AND got the Horizon invite right around the same time. I feared it would take time to be competitive, with such a big step up.

But now, the sky is the limit. Hopefully they continue to compete year in and year out. Maybe NKU doesn't reach the Wichita State/Gonzaga level of mid-major success, but giving themselves a very good chance to win the Horizon every year and establishing themselves as an upper-tier team in the league would be amazing.

The school is also (FINALLY) getting some local media attention, which could be a HUGE boost to the program. Not to mention finally getting some of the students and alumni more involved. They've been very slowly building attendance since moving to D1. Anyone who isn't from the area may not understand, but there was so little media coverage when they first moved up that, 5 years later, some people around here weren't even aware they were D1.

There is a lot of basketball talent in greater Cincinnati and also a lot of overlooked talent in the state of Kentucky (which is what coach Brannen is going after the most). If they can keep hitting on those guys, they can keep winning.

Would watch out for Oakland, as their have a good team coming back. Saw them late in the Clemson NIT game come back from 20 pts down. It seems the newer Horizon teams like NKU, Oakland, and Valpo are hungrier and have developed good programs.
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(03-14-2017 07:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Would watch out for Oakland, as their have a good team coming back. Saw them late in the Clemson NIT game come back from 20 pts down. It seems the newer Horizon teams like NKU, Oakland, and Valpo are hungrier and have developed good programs.

There are a lot of teams that seem on the way up and not the way down. Youngstown State has talent returning, so does Wright State and Oakland and UIC, just to name a few...not to mention that NKU only loses one key contributor.
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Valpo will drop off but Wright St will swipe their spot. Wright St finally has a good coach to package with their really good facilities.
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(03-08-2017 08:32 PM)Chuck_A Wrote:  Northern Kentucky wins the 2017 Horizon League Tournament, proving that Commissioner Jon LeCrone and Executive Board made a great invite! After winning just 9 games in their inaugural season in the HL, NKU comes back and wins 24 games! There were some fans who thought it was a bad move ...

Not sure one good season in the conference validates the invite as a good move. Jury is still out. 07-coffee3
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