(03-10-2017 08:41 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 09:07 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:41 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  exactly my point you are thriving in sports and still dont bring anything to add to the conference. This is your peak and your peak doesn't carry a conference.
Your school and football had a 100 year head start and your taking shots because you around 10k more when your team is winning 9 games every year.
This is why you have been passed on for 100 years.

So FAU future peak is in the SEC

Here's a history lesson, SEC public colleges were the original main state schools- LSU, Georgia started 50-100+ years before Tech was even founded.

Sure Tech could have been more proactive and made it into the CUSA 2.0 in 2005 when UTEP,SMU,Tulsa and Rice joined but Tech would have still been passed up for the AAC because of market size.

But now that the TV money has dried up, your big commuter school in a heavily populated area doesn't mean squat.

Maybe one day FAU could "peak" and reach Tech's current success....

FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

Come back and rag USM when Florida International Airport or that other Florida school has (mostly) multiple wins over Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, TCU, Ole Piss, Fail State , Kentucky, Louisville, Nebraska and FSU, just to name a few.

it'll probably take you guys a hundred years to beat ONE OF THEM...

Until then, I'd worry more about your school with 30,000K plus students in a huge metro area that can't outdraw flies, instead of a proud program that is currently a little down, but certainly not out.

Have a good one...

So cute

Thank you

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:41 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 07:21 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:16 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Tell how I am wrong?

You have had a team for 115 years and Ruston, LA looks ab0out the same.
Tell me how LA Tech is going to take C-USA to the next level in 15 years what will LA Tech offer that wasn't around 15, 20, 30 years ago.
You do not want to hear it but like USM you guys are the Radio Shack of college football.
Yea they are around and I still can go there and get a new power cord for something, but the world has past.
If your schools are so much better why are you not in the SEC/ACC right now with all the schools you started with?

You must be mad that Tech is dominating in baseball now too! Tech has the trifecta football, basketball and now baseball. FAU is not even a Tier 1 University

Someone posted a metric ranking on an AAC thread during the big12/AAC realignment what CUSA schools had the best sports programs and academics. Tech blew the rest of CUSA out of the water.

exactly my point you are thriving in sports and still dont bring anything to add to the conference. This is your peak and your peak doesn't carry a conference.
Your school and football had a 100 year head start and your taking shots because you around 10k more when your team is winning 9 games every year.
This is why you have been passed on for 100 years.

So FAU future peak is in the SEC

Here's a history lesson, SEC public colleges were the original main state schools- LSU, Georgia started 50-100+ years before Tech was even founded.

Sure Tech could have been more proactive and made it into the CUSA 2.0 in 2005 when UTEP,SMU,Tulsa and Rice joined but Tech would have still been passed up for the AAC because of market size.

But now that the TV money has dried up, your big commuter school in a heavily populated area doesn't mean squat.

Maybe one day FAU could "peak" and reach Tech's current success....

FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

This argument is asinine. You can't bag on Louisiana Tech for not making Ruston a Top 50 DMA as a way to prop up the potential of FAU. Tech created Ruston, Boca created FAU. In addition to touting a false positive, you are neglecting the FACT that no one in Boca Raton has or ever will care about FAU.

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

One more thing, if we aren't contributing anything other than a few nice football seasons how about you send back all them bowl checks from CUSA?

(03-10-2017 04:49 PM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:41 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 07:21 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:   You must be mad that Tech is dominating in baseball now too! Tech has the trifecta football, basketball and now baseball. FAU is not even a Tier 1 University

Someone posted a metric ranking on an AAC thread during the big12/AAC realignment what CUSA schools had the best sports programs and academics. Tech blew the rest of CUSA out of the water.

exactly my point you are thriving in sports and still dont bring anything to add to the conference. This is your peak and your peak doesn't carry a conference.
Your school and football had a 100 year head start and your taking shots because you around 10k more when your team is winning 9 games every year.
This is why you have been passed on for 100 years.

So FAU future peak is in the SEC

Here's a history lesson, SEC public colleges were the original main state schools- LSU, Georgia started 50-100+ years before Tech was even founded.

Sure Tech could have been more proactive and made it into the CUSA 2.0 in 2005 when UTEP,SMU,Tulsa and Rice joined but Tech would have still been passed up for the AAC because of market size.

But now that the TV money has dried up, your big commuter school in a heavily populated area doesn't mean squat.

Maybe one day FAU could "peak" and reach Tech's current success....

FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

This argument is asinine. You can't bag on Louisiana Tech for not making Ruston a Top 50 DMA as a way to prop up the potential of FAU. Tech created Ruston, Boca created FAU. In addition to touting a false positive, you are neglecting the FACT that no one in Boca Raton has or ever will care about FAU.

The problem is that because the program is fairly new most of the fans are under the age of 30. We done have 40+ y/o alumni trying to re-live the glory days. Give it time and our alumni base keeps growing with a student base of 30k+, they won't be resist it when their old school actually put some numbers in the win column. Also, I'm seeing more FAU fan representation in North Broward/ South Palm Beach County. FAU is becoming very popular, very quickly.

(03-12-2017 08:07 AM)KingStucky Wrote:  I'm seeing more FAU fan representation in North Broward/ South Palm Beach County. FAU is becoming very popular, very quickly.

Anecdotal only, but my younger brother (a Boca resident) is gradually becoming an adopted fan of FAU.

He may only be humoring me, since I am regularly asking him about it, but I do think that his interest is sincere.

(03-09-2017 06:22 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Conference "Ain't Dere No Mo"

Yup, got that one. The A&P can be the title sponsor.

(03-09-2017 04:58 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:36 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Freedom Association Intercollegiate League.

Heh... I see what you did there.

Go big or go home.
B1G? Somewhat impressive.
Big 12? Meh.
Massive F.A.I.L.? Huuuuuuge!!!

(03-12-2017 08:07 AM)KingStucky Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 04:49 PM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:41 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  exactly my point you are thriving in sports and still dont bring anything to add to the conference. This is your peak and your peak doesn't carry a conference.
Your school and football had a 100 year head start and your taking shots because you around 10k more when your team is winning 9 games every year.
This is why you have been passed on for 100 years.

So FAU future peak is in the SEC

Here's a history lesson, SEC public colleges were the original main state schools- LSU, Georgia started 50-100+ years before Tech was even founded.

Sure Tech could have been more proactive and made it into the CUSA 2.0 in 2005 when UTEP,SMU,Tulsa and Rice joined but Tech would have still been passed up for the AAC because of market size.

But now that the TV money has dried up, your big commuter school in a heavily populated area doesn't mean squat.

Maybe one day FAU could "peak" and reach Tech's current success....

FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

This argument is asinine. You can't bag on Louisiana Tech for not making Ruston a Top 50 DMA as a way to prop up the potential of FAU. Tech created Ruston, Boca created FAU. In addition to touting a false positive, you are neglecting the FACT that no one in Boca Raton has or ever will care about FAU.

The problem is that because the program is fairly new most of the fans are under the age of 30. We done have 40+ y/o alumni trying to re-live the glory days. Give it time and our alumni base keeps growing with a student base of 30k+, they won't be resist it when their old school actually put some numbers in the win column. Also, I'm seeing more FAU fan representation in North Broward/ South Palm Beach County. FAU is becoming very popular, very quickly.

No, they'll continue to support the Noles/Gators/Canes. Sure you'll get some, but for people to "relive their glory days", there has to have been glory days, of which you have none. People will remember their days at FAU as being on the beach, but no semblance of any athletic success. Maybe if you've got some diehard baseball fans, it'll grow, but that's such a small group to grow a fanbase with.

(03-08-2017 01:44 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 12:56 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 10:43 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 10:36 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 12:23 AM)LRdawg Wrote:  Or drop FIU and FAU

I love when the old south schools who have been low programs for 100 years take shots.
It's the same with USM every has passed you for years and you continue to blame others for the reason your school wasn't a chosen one in your markets.

FAU and FIU will be on a different playing field in time.
People forget FAU has even only had undergrad sine 1988 has become a much different school in only the last 10 years.
Give it a min
It is also not like they are not trying to put better products out both schools have shown that they are willing to break their breaks in order to step up.
Or we could just drop you because in the end LA Tech is what is and will be the same school 100 years from now.

Maybe you guys weren't ready for the jump ?

You have to admit that you have struggled, mightily, in both the Sun Belt and C-USA, sans baseball. I mean, your women's hoops team, for example, was 0-18. It seems, from outsiders, that your administration just does not care.

There has to be some accountability. And I know it is not the fans' fault.

For the record, I"m not one of those wanting to "kick" FIU and FAU out.

I would say it is partly the fans fault. If they would show up and support their athletic programs, i think their productivity would improve faster.

School need to more time t build fan bases.
By what your saying it makes me wonder why USM doesn't have 100k at every game you have been around for over 100 years.

Not even Ole Miss or Mississippi State bring in those type of numbers for SEC games. If they can't, and they've been around longer than USM, how can USM do that? Truthfully, just like that reporter on that other thread about Birmingham being "meh" on C-USA because Cincy & Memphis weren't there anymore, USM's fans & Hattiesburg are kinda "meh" on C-USA for not having East Carolina, Memphis, & Cincy.

(03-08-2017 03:16 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 01:50 PM)LRdawg Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 12:36 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Our women's coach was just fired....
We are building 62 millions dollars in new facilities
We just finished a new tennis building a courts
We now have the highest paid coach in the conference.
The idea we do not care is nuts

La Tech right now is at it's ceiling this is most they will ever bring to the conference.
What FIU and FAU can bring remains to be seen, but everyone knows we have higher ceilings. Than being La Tech who played it's first season in 1901.

Uh okay.

Tell how I am wrong?

You have had a team for 115 years and Ruston, LA looks ab0out the same.
Tell me how LA Tech is going to take C-USA to the next level in 15 years what will LA Tech offer that wasn't around 15, 20, 30 years ago.
You do not want to hear it but like USM you guys are the Radio Shack of college football.
Yea they are around and I still can go there and get a new power cord for something, but the world has past.
If your schools are so much better why are you not in the SEC/ACC right now with all the schools you started with?

Connections. Louisville had Schellenburger (who built the modern day Miami program and Tom Jurich (Minnesota); TCU had connections (former rival of the Texas Longhorns & Baylor Bears). Even East Carolina had Tom Holland who got them into the AAC.

(03-09-2017 05:41 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  The conference needs to get its teams on a viable television network that is reasonably available across the spectrum of cable and satellite companies. If they can get a decent amount of money from the deal then fine. If they are only going to get some drop in the bucket money wise then go for the best viewing options available. That should not be split coverage over 5-10 different vehicles with none of them (collectively) carrying enough games during football and basketball seasons. TV coverage for this basketball tourney has been embarrassing, and makes the league look worse than most of the other major and mid-major conferences.

^^^
This.

(03-12-2017 09:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(03-12-2017 08:07 AM)KingStucky Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 04:49 PM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 01:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  So FAU future peak is in the SEC

Here's a history lesson, SEC public colleges were the original main state schools- LSU, Georgia started 50-100+ years before Tech was even founded.

Sure Tech could have been more proactive and made it into the CUSA 2.0 in 2005 when UTEP,SMU,Tulsa and Rice joined but Tech would have still been passed up for the AAC because of market size.

But now that the TV money has dried up, your big commuter school in a heavily populated area doesn't mean squat.

Maybe one day FAU could "peak" and reach Tech's current success....

FAU isn't really a commuter school anymore, but yea I just shows you have no idea what your talking about.

Ruston is Ruston and always will be.
FAU has a much higher ceiling than LA Tech end of story.
If that wasn't true we wouldn't be playing in the same league despite the 100 year head start of fans and tradition.

Anytime people have this argument with USM and La Tech fan they always point to the last 5 years because they know their school doesn't provide anything in the big picture other than some nice football seasons. I remember when USF and UCF were just commuter schools in large markets.
I get that La Tech and USM are the guys who have had to watch years of little brothers move out of the house and your still in mom's basement and your just being salty about it.
Now your only thing to do is rag on your even younger brothers for hanging in basement with you.

This argument is asinine. You can't bag on Louisiana Tech for not making Ruston a Top 50 DMA as a way to prop up the potential of FAU. Tech created Ruston, Boca created FAU. In addition to touting a false positive, you are neglecting the FACT that no one in Boca Raton has or ever will care about FAU.

The problem is that because the program is fairly new most of the fans are under the age of 30. We done have 40+ y/o alumni trying to re-live the glory days. Give it time and our alumni base keeps growing with a student base of 30k+, they won't be resist it when their old school actually put some numbers in the win column. Also, I'm seeing more FAU fan representation in North Broward/ South Palm Beach County. FAU is becoming very popular, very quickly.

No, they'll continue to support the Noles/Gators/Canes. Sure you'll get some, but for people to "relive their glory days", there has to have been glory days, of which you have none. People will remember their days at FAU as being on the beach, but no semblance of any athletic success. Maybe if you've got some diehard baseball fans, it'll grow, but that's such a small group to grow a fanbase with.

I don't think you understand the dynamics of South Florida football quite like me (seeing as I've lived here for most of my life ), but sure. Yes we do have Noles/Gators/Canes fans, but South Florida is lacking a local school with a real alumni base. UM is a small private school, filled to the brim with out of state alumni, usually from the North East. In my office of 90+ we have two UM alums. The alumni factor is huge because it builds an unbreakable bond between the fan and the school. As an alum of both FSU and FAU, they have a very special place in my heart. The 30k + students at FAU are building that bond as time passes.

As for FSU/UF, they are a 7 and 5 hours away from South Florida. The fact that UF rarely takes a trip down to play in South Florida makes it even worse.

(03-08-2017 09:47 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 09:42 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 08:03 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Bottom line, no pun intended is the consistent bottom 4 schools of this league needs to step up their games in both football and basketball....We cannot have 4 teams ranked below 300 out of 351 DIv. I mens basketball teams...ALso the basketball schools who have the history need to step up their games as well including WKU>....

This

Yes. And being at the bottom for 3 years in a row should result in some sort of penalties. Forgoing conference payouts, more road games, getting kicked out... something.

I would think the bottom 4-5 teams could be dropped just by enforcing attendance requirements. Is there any reason to keep these schools? Their media markets have not produced any improvement on media deals, their 300+ RPI basketball teams have driven this conference to be rated 25th, they don't travel or even attend their own games, and they don't compete. Yeah, ODU, WKU, UAB, and Charlotte need to step it up in basketball, but the difference between the CAA ranked 13 and CUSA ranked 25 is literally the bottom 5.

(03-08-2017 11:05 AM)Fish Wrote:  I see everyone is basically blaming FIU and FAU. I could see why one would be upset. The fact remains that neither FIU nor FAU is affecting C-USA teams' OOC performance. If the top half of the league all did what MT did this year, we would be a multiple bid league. Look at yourselves first before you point fingers. Are the bottom teams helping? Heck no. But I haven't seen one poster here say, "dang, we should have won some more OOC games and we would be in a better position right now."

You can get mad at me if you want, but I'm just doing what you all are doing... Blaming others.

Just trying to provide some perspective in a seemingly incredibly tilted thread... Good day.

ODU went 11-1 OOC 2 years ago (quite a few of the 11 wins were top 50 and if I recall correctly 5 were top 100) and still found themselves in the NIT. Given MT's 12-seed, they would have likely been in the NIT this year as well.

It's funny to watch schools who average less than 2,000 fans in attendance this last season argue about relevance....put more than 1,200 butts in the seats and then maybe someone will listen.