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(03-08-2017 12:41 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Despite what Tom, John are saying... Unless this was forcible sex then it was homosexual in nature. 15 is past the DSM's age attraction for pedos

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(03-08-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:56 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.

Wow. It's somewhere in the LGTBQ alphabet.

Many people are turned on by (or attracted to) the sexual activity itself and not the participant. That doesn't make you gay. Sorry, but it just doesn't.

Granted, in most cases the participants probably are, but it's not 100%. That's all I'm saying. This is why you can't legislate morality or obscenity.

Nobody is calling to legislate anything. The scouts decided to allow this and it is their right to do so. My son will not be participating.
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(03-07-2017 04:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, why are topics like these worthy of a thread here?

Apologist ,.. you are!
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(03-08-2017 03:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:56 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.

Wow. It's somewhere in the LGTBQ alphabet.

Many people are turned on by (or attracted to) the sexual activity itself and not the participant. That doesn't make you gay. Sorry, but it just doesn't.

Granted, in most cases the participants probably are, but it's not 100%. That's all I'm saying. This is why you can't legislate morality or obscenity.

Nobody is calling to legislate anything. The scouts decided to allow this and it is their right to do so. My son will not be participating.

Right...they allowed someone to rape a kid. 01-wingedeagle Did you miss the post pointing out your selective edit in your OP?

Let me refresh you...
Quote: Police wouldn’t say whether the boy is connected to the Scouts troop.
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(03-08-2017 12:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:59 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Active pedophiles will find ways to get to children regardless of whether gay men are allowed to be scout leaders.

Homosexuality <> Pedophilia...no matter how many times you try to imply it.

That wasn't my question. I didn't ask if they will find another outlet if this one is closed. My question was whether you think the scouts should alllow gay leaders.

Should we allow women scout leaders? Women have been known to have sex with young boys under their care.
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(03-08-2017 12:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 04:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, why are topics like these worthy of a thread here?

How about 100 of these cases from "Christians" just about every week?
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(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:14 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Apparently...neither the OP nor the article in it said anything about the leader being gay. And we still have no evidence that he is!

The suspect (a 28-year old man) is accused of raping a 15-year-old boy.

Merriam-Webster dictionary's definition of "homosexual" includes:

"of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex."

Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.
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(03-08-2017 03:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 03:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:56 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.

Wow. It's somewhere in the LGTBQ alphabet.

Many people are turned on by (or attracted to) the sexual activity itself and not the participant. That doesn't make you gay. Sorry, but it just doesn't.

Granted, in most cases the participants probably are, but it's not 100%. That's all I'm saying. This is why you can't legislate morality or obscenity.

Nobody is calling to legislate anything. The scouts decided to allow this and it is their right to do so. My son will not be participating.

Right...they allowed someone to rape a kid. 01-wingedeagle Did you miss the post pointing out your selective edit in your OP?

Let me refresh you...
Quote: Police wouldn’t say whether the boy is connected to the Scouts troop.

he is literally looking for any evidence that justifies his bigoted views
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"Bigot" = the worst thing you can be.
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(03-08-2017 03:55 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 12:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:59 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Active pedophiles will find ways to get to children regardless of whether gay men are allowed to be scout leaders.

Homosexuality <> Pedophilia...no matter how many times you try to imply it.

That wasn't my question. I didn't ask if they will find another outlet if this one is closed. My question was whether you think the scouts should alllow gay leaders.

Should we allow women scout leaders? Women have been known to have sex with young boys under their care.
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In many localities, they are struggling to find men to lead scout troops. So they are out of necessity led by women. So should we just get rid of scouting then?
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(03-08-2017 03:59 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:14 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Apparently...neither the OP nor the article in it said anything about the leader being gay. And we still have no evidence that he is!

The suspect (a 28-year old man) is accused of raping a 15-year-old boy.

Merriam-Webster dictionary's definition of "homosexual" includes:

"of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex."

Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.
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If you have evidence to the contrary, by all means provide it.

Meanwhile, Kristen Stewart...Cate Blanchett...Angelina Jolie...Drew Barrymore...Lindsay Lohan...Gavin Rossdale (Bush lead singer) are all rumored to have had sexual relations with the same sex. None of them are known to be gay.

You don't think there are others in regular society who have done the same?

C'mon man. Expand your mind. 03-wink
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(03-08-2017 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 01:16 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 12:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 12:22 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But there is nothing in your story about the abuser being gay.

Because a 15 year old is post pubecent and hence attrationc to them does not meet the 2013 DCM definition for pedophilia.

Therefore a 28 year old having sex with a 15 year old, while disgusting in our society, is not pedophilia.

So what is a non-pedo sexual encounter between to males now called?

I realize that, but the OP explained why he posted the thread in Post #3, so that's what we've been debating. Not this particular case per se.

Ok I can admittedly be a bit slow on the uptake here but..

OP -> Story about a gay scout leader having sex with a 15 yo
RWT -> Why would you post this here
#3 -> Do you think that there should be gay scout leaders
RWT -> What do gay scout leaders have to do with this.

Apparently...neither the OP nor the article in it said anything about the leader being gay. And we still have no evidence that he is!


Uhhhh, he raped a 15 YO male?
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(03-08-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:56 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.

Wow. It's somewhere in the LGTBQ alphabet.

Many people are turned on by (or attracted to) the sexual activity itself and not the participant. That doesn't make you gay. Sorry, but it just doesn't.

Granted, in most cases the participants probably are, but it's not 100%. That's all I'm saying. This is why you can't legislate morality or obscenity.
He raped the boy 10 times Tom. He is a gay homosexual rapist.
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(03-08-2017 03:59 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:14 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Apparently...neither the OP nor the article in it said anything about the leader being gay. And we still have no evidence that he is!

The suspect (a 28-year old man) is accused of raping a 15-year-old boy.

Merriam-Webster dictionary's definition of "homosexual" includes:

"of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex."

Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.
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Do you think the skinheads who took Edward Norton by the rear in American History X were homosexuals?

Or do you think they were heterosexuals just trying to establish their dominance?

Completely different situation than the OP, but I'm just trying to point out that not all homosexual sex acts imply the participants are gay.
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Same for prison too.

Look guys...if I had to guess, I'd say the guy is gay. All I'm saying is that you cannot (or at least should not) automatically assume he is.
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(03-08-2017 05:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Same for prison too.

Look guys...if I had to guess, I'd say the guy is gay. All I'm saying is that you cannot (or at least should not) automatically assume he is.

So if a 28 year old man is doing this to a 15 year old girl.............he could really be a gay or Bi guy? This is what you are pitching. No words Tom.
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(03-08-2017 05:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 05:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Same for prison too.

Look guys...if I had to guess, I'd say the guy is gay. All I'm saying is that you cannot (or at least should not) automatically assume he is.

So if a 28 year old man is doing this to a 15 year old girl.............he could really be a gay or Bi guy? This is what you are pitching. No words Tom.

Dude, I can only provide you with examples...I can't make you understand them.

But I'm sort of curious to know what your definition of a bisexual even is...lol
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(03-08-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:56 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.

Wow. It's somewhere in the LGTBQ alphabet.

Many people are turned on by (or attracted to) the sexual activity itself and not the participant. That doesn't make you gay. Sorry, but it just doesn't.

Granted, in most cases the participants probably are, but it's not 100%. That's all I'm saying. This is why you can't legislate morality or obscenity.

That makes you bisexual.
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(03-08-2017 04:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 03:59 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:14 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Apparently...neither the OP nor the article in it said anything about the leader being gay. And we still have no evidence that he is!

The suspect (a 28-year old man) is accused of raping a 15-year-old boy.

Merriam-Webster dictionary's definition of "homosexual" includes:

"of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex."

Having homosexual sex does not always mean the participants are gay.
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If you have evidence to the contrary, by all means provide it.

Meanwhile, Kristen Stewart...Cate Blanchett...Angelina Jolie...Drew Barrymore...Lindsay Lohan...Gavin Rossdale (Bush lead singer) are all rumored to have had sexual relations with the same sex. None of them are known to be gay.

You don't think there are others in regular society who have done the same?

C'mon man. Expand your mind. 03-wink
this is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever ******* read. Congratulations. Sorry but if you have gay sex one time that makes you pretty queer in my book.

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(03-08-2017 05:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 05:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Same for prison too.

Look guys...if I had to guess, I'd say the guy is gay. All I'm saying is that you cannot (or at least should not) automatically assume he is.

So if a 28 year old man is doing this to a 15 year old girl.............he could really be a gay or Bi guy? This is what you are pitching. No words Tom.

Well we really don't know what else this guy does. He likes to do gay sex. That we can say.
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