TS pulled both Minnesota and Tech into the NCAA's. Both those teams are in better leagues than the AAC. I suspect he can do the same for the Tigers.

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(03-04-2017 06:56 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  TS pulled both Minnesota and Tech into the NCAA's. Both those teams are in better leagues than the AAC. I suspect he can do the same for the Tigers.

So, squeaking into the NCAA tournament is now the bar for Memphis basketball and what we need to point towards?

5 popped into my head immediately. The program's popularity and relavence is very similar to the late 90's and early 2000's IMO. No cares about gong to the games anymore. We're in the freakin dumps, no doubt.

(03-04-2017 06:58 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:56 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  TS pulled both Minnesota and Tech into the NCAA's. Both those teams are in better leagues than the AAC. I suspect he can do the same for the Tigers.

So, squeaking into the NCAA tournament is now the bar for Memphis basketball and what we need to point towards?

May have been set by the previous seven years.

Getting into the tournament doesn't make You relavent. Hell Josh did that

No quick fix
Tubby has lost this team and those close to team know it.
Since we will be relying on poorly ranked recruiting, I'm guessing 4-6 years
I am also predicting a parting of ways with Tubby in next 2 years. Don't think he wants what Pastner went through and it will start TODAY.

Is it possible to be on the hot seat after only a year?

(03-04-2017 07:11 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Is it possible to be on the hot seat after only a year?

Nah, but if next year is similar he'll be feeling some heat going into year 3.

(03-04-2017 07:06 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  No quick fix
Tubby has lost this team and those close to team know it.
Since we will be relying on poorly ranked recruiting, I'm guessing 4-6 years
I am also predicting a parting of ways with Tubby in next 2 years. Don't think he wants what Pastner went through and it will start TODAY.

He hasn't lost all on the team. Just a couple which is what happens when you are not allowed to run the program you are hired to run. Don't care if he stays or goes, but the admin shouldn't tell the coach how to run the program.

(03-04-2017 07:15 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:06 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  No quick fix
Tubby has lost this team and those close to team know it.
Since we will be relying on poorly ranked recruiting, I'm guessing 4-6 years
I am also predicting a parting of ways with Tubby in next 2 years. Don't think he wants what Pastner went through and it will start TODAY.

He hasn't lost all on the team. Just a couple which is what happens when you are not allowed to run the program you are hired to run.

Who are the players he has lost on the team? Any idea what changed?

(03-04-2017 07:15 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:06 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  No quick fix
Tubby has lost this team and those close to team know it.
Since we will be relying on poorly ranked recruiting, I'm guessing 4-6 years
I am also predicting a parting of ways with Tubby in next 2 years. Don't think he wants what Pastner went through and it will start TODAY.

He hasn't lost all on the team. Just a couple which is what happens when you are not allowed to run the program you are hired to run. Don't care if he stays or goes, but the admin shouldn't tell the coach how to run the program.

SMH

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

(03-04-2017 07:35 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

Go check out Auburn's record in bb and lack of post season for years and Pearl is landing really good recruiting classes there...... at Auburn who doesn't give a **** about basketball......

(03-04-2017 05:51 PM)mempitt18 Wrote:  Until we hire Penny Hardaway, like I said after Pastner left

What kind of college coaching exp. does Penny have? I love Penny, but this would be worse than the Porter hire in football.

(03-04-2017 07:35 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

And here we go with the program bashing to prop up a coach again.

(03-04-2017 07:16 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:15 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:06 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  No quick fix
Tubby has lost this team and those close to team know it.
Since we will be relying on poorly ranked recruiting, I'm guessing 4-6 years
I am also predicting a parting of ways with Tubby in next 2 years. Don't think he wants what Pastner went through and it will start TODAY.

He hasn't lost all on the team. Just a couple which is what happens when you are not allowed to run the program you are hired to run.

Who are the players he has lost on the team? Any idea what changed?

Of those who matter (only 4-5) the 3 that were laughing it up at 1.5 second TO and the guy who hangs his head all the time because he can hit the wide side of a barn.

(03-04-2017 07:39 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:35 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

Go check out Auburn's record in bb and lack of post season for years and Pearl is landing really good recruiting classes there...... at Auburn who doesn't give a **** about basketball......

So did Pastner. What's your point? The question was about basketball relevance. Neither the last seven years here nor the last three years there amount to relevance.

(03-04-2017 08:52 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:39 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:35 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

Go check out Auburn's record in bb and lack of post season for years and Pearl is landing really good recruiting classes there...... at Auburn who doesn't give a **** about basketball......

So did Pastner. What's your point? The question was about basketball relevance. Neither the last seven years here nor the last three years there amount to relevance.

My point is that great coaches CAN recruit top players to a crappy program.

Brown to SMU and Pearl to Auburn come immediately to mind.

(03-04-2017 08:08 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 07:35 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:41 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Why would any high level recruit answer a call from Tubby?

Hell, is Tubby even going to call a high level recruit?

You may be right on both counts, but I don't think the current coach is the main reason for players not wanting to play at Memphis any more. We hadn't made either tournament in two years. That much alone was enough to cause a juco transfer who was already on the team to leave, and this makes three in a row. I can't imagine our "brand" has trended upward. It'll be tough. It would be tough for anybody to land 5-stars here now, especially someone who doesn't seem to have that as goal.

To answer the OP's question, probably at least 4 years.

And here we go with the program bashing to prop up a coach again.

Unless a miracle happens, we will miss any post season play for three years in a row, under two different coaches, for the first time in 36 years. Tell me about our program and how a guy in his first year is completely responsible for it and should resign because he hasn't fixed it yet.