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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
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(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

Schedule Illinois State home and home in the same season then.

G5 schools need to have a little more solidarity.

Agree 100%. That's why I'm fine with a UTK game right now - only because we need the gate. But the rest of Old Miss, Arky, Vandy, Miss State can hit the bricks. Give me any BEast, A10, or a select few MVC, MWC, West, CUSA schools.
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(03-15-2017 03:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 09:48 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Schedule Illinois State home and home in the same season then.

G5 schools need to have a little more solidarity.

Agree 100%. That's why I'm fine with a UTK game right now - only because we need the gate. But the rest of Old Miss, Arky, Vandy, Miss State can hit the bricks. Give me any BEast, A10, or a select few MVC, MWC, West, CUSA schools.

The best was in the late season OOC game to break up the league monotony as well.

Schedule Illinois State or VCU or Rhode Island or San Diegot State or whoever home and home in the same season - one game early and one game late.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-15-2017 04:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 09:48 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Schedule Illinois State home and home in the same season then.

G5 schools need to have a little more solidarity.

Agree 100%. That's why I'm fine with a UTK game right now - only because we need the gate. But the rest of Old Miss, Arky, Vandy, Miss State can hit the bricks. Give me any BEast, A10, or a select few MVC, MWC, West, CUSA schools.

The best was in the late season OOC game to break up the league monotony as well.

Schedule Illinois State or VCU or Rhode Island or San Diegot State or whoever home and home in the same season - one game early and one game late.

Right now we are an Rpi drain for those schools. Monmouth came here and it did them no good. I guess we need to go 25-6 and not get an at large first.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
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(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

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We need BRUCE PEARL
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(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?
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Gregg Mar shall would be fine
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(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Not only that, having to worry about the NCAA checking his trunk. He's had several good recruiting classes and still Auburn is getting their asses kicked. I'm just wondering when the dead hooker is going to surface? He's about due to start winning in year 4, I'm guessing dead hooker in year 7? Unless of course, he's been talking to Cal.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-19-2017 09:45 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.

BOOM!
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(03-19-2017 09:45 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.

Three "top 30" recruiting classes. And 11th place in the SEC. How long does it take? What good does it do to keep getting "top recruits" if you're not winning with them? You slam the 3-star undervalued, team player approach because it takes 3-4 years to build. Keep making excuses for him, and slamming any excuses made for Tubby.
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(03-19-2017 11:12 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 09:45 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.

Three "top 30" recruiting classes. And 11th place in the SEC. How long does it take? What good does it do to keep getting "top recruits" if you're not winning with them? You slam the 3-star undervalued, team player approach because it takes 3-4 years to build. Keep making excuses for him, and slamming any excuses made for Tubby.


I simply pointed out the starting points for both coaches was completely different. One should take longer.

How long did it take Pastner to get to the postseason? How long before he secured a top notch class? How long before he got Memphis into the NCAA?
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(03-19-2017 11:12 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 09:45 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.

Three "top 30" recruiting classes. And 11th place in the SEC. How long does it take? What good does it do to keep getting "top recruits" if you're not winning with them? You slam the 3-star undervalued, team player approach because it takes 3-4 years to build. Keep making excuses for him, and slamming any excuses made for Tubby.

Yes, I know, I can't believe 3 TOP recruiting classes, and still can't win. I'm actually surprised, I thought Pearl was a better coach than that. Year 4 final four, has a ring to it. Year seven, film at eleven (for the dead hooker).
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Where is this 'dead hooker' you speak of? lol

I'm starting to think we should have an unmarked grave for her/him...My parents bought extra mausoleum room in Calvary. I'll donate my share of space.
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(03-19-2017 11:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 11:12 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 09:45 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 10:26 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 07:28 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We need BRUCE PEARL

Are you willing to wait another 4 years for him to get it going?

Again, because they are both similar programs?

The four years before Pearl got to Auburn, the Tigers won 15, 11, 9, and 14 games.

The team Pearl took over returned two players who averaged more than 3 ppg the previous year--from a 14 win team.

Pearl, to his credit, tried to stop the hemorrhaging. He snagged a JUCO All-American (Cinmeon Bowers) and got a former Tiger recruit (KC Ross-Miller) to commit. Also got a grad transfer from Niagra to come there.

The recruits he brought in accounted for about 44% of the team's scoring (including 54% of team's 3pt makes) and almost half (48%) of the teams rebounding.

Of course, for Pearl (or anyone walking into a shi!tshow) that first year is just a bandage on a gash. The one good player left from Barbee graduates and his two grad transfers finish the year and AU loses 67% of its scoring going into the next year.

So, year two he has to start over again. But he now has a full year of recruiting under his belt and brings in a top 15 class. So now there is at least hope beyond what will be a dismal second season.

But, getting back to Tubby, if had shown any of the initiative Pearl did by getting Bowers and Ross-Miller, (or guys like that) Memphis would have been in the NCAA's no problem this year.

Three "top 30" recruiting classes. And 11th place in the SEC. How long does it take? What good does it do to keep getting "top recruits" if you're not winning with them? You slam the 3-star undervalued, team player approach because it takes 3-4 years to build. Keep making excuses for him, and slamming any excuses made for Tubby.


I simply pointed out the starting points for both coaches was completely different. One should take longer.

How long did it take Pastner to get to the postseason? How long before he secured a top notch class? How long before he got Memphis into the NCAA?

Seems inconsistent. You claim it's not that difficult. Grab a couple of these recruits off the internet. BAM! You're in the tourney. Recruiting is the key.

Well, he's recruited well - according to the interwebs. Good enough for not only a NCAA berth, but a first round win. Good enough to be top 4 in the SEC.

He's lost some guys. So? Isn't it his place to keep the roster full and competitive? Doesn't every team lose players?

Auburn is a tougher place than Memphis. Absolutely. But that only applies to getting recruits there. That's not the problem he's having though - right? He's getting the recruits. So, when you have the better players - why is Auburn tougher than Memphis?

You're a self-proclaimed smart guy. You have to see the double standard.
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(03-19-2017 12:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Where is this 'dead hooker' you speak of? lol

I'm starting to think we should have an unmarked grave for her/him...My parents bought extra mausoleum room in Calvary. I'll donate my share of space.

Read "ten years later" thread" page 1.
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(03-19-2017 01:35 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 12:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Where is this 'dead hooker' you speak of? lol

I'm starting to think we should have an unmarked grave for her/him...My parents bought extra mausoleum room in Calvary. I'll donate my share of space.

Read "ten years later" thread" page 1.

How about you just quit posting dumb shtt all over this board instead.
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(03-19-2017 01:42 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 01:35 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 12:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Where is this 'dead hooker' you speak of? lol

I'm starting to think we should have an unmarked grave for her/him...My parents bought extra mausoleum room in Calvary. I'll donate my share of space.

Read "ten years later" thread" page 1.

How about you just quit posting dumb shtt all over this board instead.

Trouble keeping up?
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Well I re-read page 1, and I do now understand the dead hooker in the trunk.

It's a metaphor! This board does need more metaphors. I hadn't seen one in so long...i had forgotten they exist. lol

Dayum. I wish we had been in the tournament. (That's a metaphor too.)
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R we watching the old Memphis coach playing against the soon to be new MEMPHIS COACH
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